Daredevil Why a TV series for Daredevil?

[mace1]

Also... I suspect if Gotham runs for too long it could quite possibly BECOME a Batman show.

It may turn out to be the case.

Keep in mind folks the flash tv show overall in the end might be better or more closer to the comics then a big screen real life action flash.
I would be happy enough to see either one or to see both but keep what i said in mind.

The flash 5 min trailer and the show already looks like a big screen movie and a more detailed story.

I believe the marvel netflix shows will be that way too.

The first flash show back in the late 80's or early 90's was a big hit and had high ratings but it had to be cancelled like the blade tv show because it was too expensive to keep on.

Hopefully things will be different this time.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

There are certain characters that lend themselves better to the medium. DD is one of them. Lawyer by day, crimefighter by night? Imagine Law and Order with super powers. TV is where this character belongs. His stories can be more complicated, fleshed out, and overarching throughout 13 episodes instead of rushed through in a 2 hr movie. In my opinion, this is perfect.

 

[fixxxer]

Why not just look around the forum a bit to see if this ground has already been covered instead of starting a new thread? http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=478511

Anyway, my reply, as posted on the other thread, follows.

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Marvel Studios is currently in the "tent-pole" business. You don't need a $200 million FX extravaganza to showcase Daredevil's character, abilities and mythos in a way that you do for characters like Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Cap, GOTG, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, etc.

Just look at the absolutely astounding quality of cable TV dramas of the recent past/present. To call TV the "lesser" medium is somewhere between inaccurate and 100% wrong at the moment. Daredevil (and his Netflix brethren) just seem to fit the medium like a glove. This, of course, assumes the writing and production team is top notch, which looks to be the case, based on the little information that has been released thus far.

After a successful run of (say) four or five seasons, maybe Daredevil can be explored further in movies as and when they have a story that lends itself to the big screen treatment. I'm pretty sure that the actors that are being hired for these shows will have movie options in their contracts. But for now, I think Marvel's plan is absolutely on point.

 

[metaphysician]

Also... I suspect if Gotham runs for too long it could quite possibly BECOME a Batman show.

I doubt it. They have Bruce Wayne as too young a kid; it'd have to run 10 seasons just to get him to adulthood, unless they did multiyear time skips. Which I suppose is *possible*, but I doubt it will happen. If they were willing to bring Batman onto the TV show, to the point of doing time skips to accommodate it? They'd probably have just made a Batman show in the first place, or at least made the show more friendly for becoming such.

 

[Human Torch]

Frankly,I wish DD got the big screen treatment.He's the un-sung Marvel hero.And now he'll be off in his own little corner instead of interacting with the MCU proper.

 

[Loki882]

Except that that's kind of his thing in the comics as well. He's mostly a guy who does his own thing, and from time to time teams up with other characters. It's why Bendis trying to crowbar him onto the Avengers just didn't work for me. Certain characters just don't go there, like DD, or Spider-Man, or Wolverine, etc.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

a psrt of me is kind agreeing with the feeling that the DD show gives off the vibe that MS is beginning to get impatient to get some of their properties adapted and are rushing certain heroes by giving them the small screen treatment. There are not that many 'big' names left that suit themselves for adaptation and MS might paint themselves into a corner, long-term.
However, as of now, DD looks like a great TV show, brililantly cast and I can't wait to watch it

 

[Human Torch]

Yeah,I mean as far as franchises go,Daredevil was the only other hero with a 'lock' on getting a film trio made.Now,it's like "here's your MCU Daredevil,make the best of it."

 

[metaphysician]

Because, of course, TV is intrinsically inferior to movies. *rollseyes*

( and this isn't even TV, its digital streaming, which by all right is a different medium anyway )

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

The problem with television and superheroes is the budget (or lack thereof) compared to feature length films. For something like Spider-Man that is a huge problem, but for many heroes (ex. Daredevil, Luke Cage, Punisher, etc.) it really isn't. And in those cases, I would almost prefer them to be on TV. It is certainly a closer format to the comics than feature films are.

As for TV being inferior, this season of Game of Thrones was better than anything I've seen in the theater in a long time.

 

[Shakel92]

I'd much prefer 13 episodes of DD to a 2 hour movie, especially since the budget equals out to around $3.3 million an episode. It comes out as being a character driven, 13 hour movie on a $40 million budget. What's not to love?

 

[Hypestyle]

use a fictional mayor, and city council. Invent some police board commissioners.

 

[Human Torch]

Because, of course, TV is intrinsically inferior to movies. *rollseyes*

( and this isn't even TV, its digital streaming, which by all right is a different medium anyway )

Who was saying it's inferior?

I think DD is a big enough hero in his own right to warrant the big screen treatment.It's stuff like Heroes for Hire,Moon Knight,etc that would benefit most from a series,since they really don't have a prayer of getting a big budget movie made.

 

[bluerayer]

Who was saying it's inferior?

I think DD is a big enough hero in his own right to warrant the big screen treatment.It's stuff like Heroes for Hire,Moon Knight,etc that would benefit most from a series,since they really don't have a prayer of getting a big budget movie made.

I still think a good Heroes for Hire movie could be made. Why not? It would be like Marvels Buddy/Cop movie.

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

To be honest I have no complaints. I'm just glad I'm seeing one of my favorite characters come back to a screen

 

[Human Torch]

I've always liked Heroes for Hire,so I'd be happy to see a big budget movie.But you essentially need to do two origin movies in one and tie it together somehow at the end as a "team-up" film.

I'm not saying it can't be done,but I think it's better served the way they're doing it with the Netflix shows.

 

[jonathancrane]

The serialized format works well for Daredevil; looking at Miller's run, for instance, so many of the elements that kick into effect in Born Again were seeded a considerable time earlier; there's a feeling of satisfaction when one can flip back through to an earlier issue and see where a plotpoint started. The television format permits this; like with True Detective, how the woman Hart was having an affair with appeared for a few seconds later in the episode.

In the film format, this progression and seeding can be done, but is not too satisfactory, as it's a two hour tightly wound timeframe, versus a season, which breathes and can let some plotlines on the backburner for a while and bring them to the front when needed.

As others have pointed out, the serialized format works well for Law & Order type shows, which will constitute a part of the format, due to Murdock's profession. At last, but not least, television allows for multiplicity of voices, unlike film; the show can rope in some terrific directors (a la from Game of Thrones) and other personnel, allowing for distinct takes on the material, instead of having solely one, if it was a film.

 

[bluerayer]

The serialized format works well for Daredevil; looking at Miller's run, for instance, so many of the elements that kick into effect in Born Again were seeded a considerable time earlier; there's a feeling of satisfaction when one can flip back through to an earlier issue and see where a plotpoint started. The television format permits this; like with True Detective, how the woman Hart was having an affair with appeared for a few seconds later in the episode.

In the film format, this progression and seeding can be done, but is not too satisfactory, as it's a two hour tightly wound timeframe, versus a season, which breathes and can let some plotlines on the backburner for a while and bring them to the front when needed.

As others have pointed out, the serialized format works well for Law & Order type shows, which will constitute a part of the format, due to Murdock's profession. At last, but not least, television allows for multiplicity of voices, unlike film; the show can rope in some terrific directors (a la from Game of Thrones) and other personnel, allowing for distinct takes on the material, instead of having solely one, if it was a film.

Good points, im a follower of Law & Order:SVU and i enjoy the courtroom stuff there. I hope the Daredevil show will have similar scenes. Which im almost positive it will. Maybe Marvel should try to snag some Law & Order writers and directors?

 

[DrCosmic]

I doubt it. They have Bruce Wayne as too young a kid; it'd have to run 10 seasons just to get him to adulthood, unless they did multiyear time skips. Which I suppose is *possible*, but I doubt it will happen. If they were willing to bring Batman onto the TV show, to the point of doing time skips to accommodate it? They'd probably have just made a Batman show in the first place, or at least made the show more friendly for becoming such.

Yeah, it'd have to run a long time, but if you have an adult Bruce Wayne... how can it *not* become a Batman show?

 

[metaphysician]

Yeah, it'd have to run a long time, but if you have an adult Bruce Wayne... how can it *not* become a Batman show?

I suspect the answer is "nobody seriously expects it to last enough seasons for it to be an issue." After all, 10 seasons would just bring Bruce to the point where he's doing his walk the world training regimen.

 

[Katsuro]

I suspect the answer is "nobody seriously expects it to last enough seasons for it to be an issue." After all, 10 seasons would just bring Bruce to the point where he's doing his walk the world training regimen.

Plus, what if the kid playing Bruce Wayne doesn't grow up so good? Like, if this show's just gonna keep going until this kid is Batman, they better hope the actor grows up tall and square-jawed.

 

[metaphysician]

I mean, I agree. Logically speaking, this show should have the potential to turn into a Batman show. That's why I think its design premise is terrible, because it undercuts all its own potential. They should have just made a Gotham Central series.

 

[3dman27]

shuldnt this thread be in the daredevil sub forum??

 

[DrCosmic]

I actually agree meta, I just got a little hopeful, but yeah, when the only people you can change really are Mooney and Penguin's mom, you're already out of steam. I would have loved it if they had played the long game. As is, Gordon will probably be facing off with Jack Napier in season 2.

 

[bluerayer]

shuldnt this thread be in the daredevil sub forum??

Indeed, it should be moved there, before it gets deleted. There is some good discussions going on in this thread.