First Avenger Why are guys shocked when I say this film was MUCH better than TDK?

[jmc]

It was movie, not a comic book, yet was able to stay true to the the comics, HELL, why am i talking? I tried to explain to you, it didn't work, others did the same, it didn't work.
This entire Thread is a FLAMING war!!!

Give up, there's no point conversing with some people when it comes to comic adaptations to film.

 

[Doomed_hero]

eh I hate people who say it went beyond a comic book movie. it makes comic book movies sound small and a bad thing. You did like the comics these movies where based off right? Why does it need to transend that

 

[Stripesy Strip]

HAHA! Are you being serious?

ALL the fight scenes were shot well and were great and you could see what was happening.

I dare you, DARE you to name ONE fight scene in both batman films were you could see what was happening.

Just from memory as far as fight scene/action scene...

-In Dark Knight you had the scene where cars and vans were attacking the car where Harvey Dent was stuck and Batman and ihs car saved him. That was awesome.

-Batman running around the Joker is his Bat Cycle. Wich ultimately lead to the Joker's capture.

The problem with Cap was that it was like the director seemed to go through the motion, especially during the action scene. The same guy directed the Wolfman and it showed because the action scenes in Wolfman were also pretty average.

Take for example the way Cap saves the 400 soldiers: pretty damn boring. Nothing special. (in the comics Mark Millar had Cap using a plane to crash into the enemy's stronghold! that's the sort of daredevil Cap is.)

Another example, alright Cap becomes Cap for real this time, instead of making us see something awesome, Johnston has Cap and the Commandoes, just running in the wood in slowmo! That's it. He's running, firing his gun and throwing his shield mecanicaly. But there's no great creative action shot. Johnston just throws that outthere like it's another newreel. In the movie The Expandables for instance when the guys take the villain stronghold, it's hard and painful and every fight they do is unique and you care for all the guys. Here, not only the Commandoes are taken for granted but they are one note characters and nothing they do matters. Same with Cap. You don't see say...Dum Dum Duggan fighting three guys with bare hands and he conquers, Hell forget that we only see Duggan firing his gun.

Look at the dedication to action movies like James Bond take. In Casino Royale the opening where Bond running after a guy with a bomb takes forever and it becomes unreal, and a classic. And there were many stuff like this in CR. I wish with Cap the director would have focused on one thing but make this thing fantastic.

I think the best part as far as action was when Rogers was running after the assassin in the streets of New York. That whole thing was how Cap should always be. But the moment he gets the costume, his fighting went out of the window and became just another soldier. With a non-creative style to boot. Cap doesn't just fight in a blocky way, he should be creative, he's an acrobat, he does flips, he's been trained in all manner of fighting techniques. He's a super-hero.

The Bourne movies series, the character in it was more a super-hero than Cap in this movie was.

 

[Lord]

I said that they are being adapted into movies so what's the problem of seeming like movies, i don't mind the comic design and all but whining about how this comic book movie was to much like a normal movie is not a valid statement.
Its a movie so theres no problem in seeming more like a crime movie than a normal comic book, and bases itself enough on the comics for it to be valid to adapt.
Yet the movie toke a lot from long halloween and year one, thus proving the potential of the stories the comics have.
And finally, it seems like i'm having to much problem to just say The Dark Knight was better, i don't want to sound like a nolan fan boy so i'll just back off and read this thread to see if the flame war continues (that is inevitable as this thread is just the perfect battlefield for Nolan fans vs non-nolan fans

 

[The Sage]

I said that they are being adapted into movies so what's the problem of seeming like movies, i don't mind the comic design and all but whining about how this comic book movie was to much like a normal movie is not a valid statement.
Its a movie so theres no problem in seeming more like a crime movie than a normal comic book, and bases itself enough on the comics for it to be valid to adapt.
Yet the movie toke a lot from long halloween and year one, thus proving the potential of the stories the comics have.
And finally, it seems like i'm having to much problem to just say The Dark Knight was better, i don't want to sound like a nolan fan boy so i'll just back off and read this thread to see if the flame war continues (that is inevitable as this thread is just the perfect battlefield for Nolan fans vs non-nolan fans

Which is exactly why it's getting closed...