Why didnt the professor sense Scott's death?

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Yes - we saw him get a psychic fluctuation at the moment of scott's death, but what about afterwards? Why didnt he sense that he was gone? As we all know the professor is psychicly linked to all the mutants, I would assume he woulda sensed that he was no longer alive before Logan/Jean scene in the mansion and done something about it.
 
Tyrano said:
Yes - we saw him get a psychic fluctuation at the moment of scott's death, but what about afterwards? Why didnt he sense that he was gone? As we all know the professor is psychicly linked to all the mutants, I would assume he woulda sensed that he was no longer alive before Logan/Jean scene in the mansion and done something about it.
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For the same reason he didn't somehow sense Jean's awakening, yet Callisto could. :rolleyes:

It's called "A Plot Hole."

And the list of them is long. LOL :woot:
 
Very long.

Or, maybe Scott isn't dead. But let us not get into that theory.
 
Professor Xavier isn't a fortuneteller.
 
I don't think that Xavier has the same mental connection to his students in the movies that he has in the comics.
 
Within the film? There's no real reason as to why Xavier wouldn't notice.

However if we look beyond the plot we find that in X3, every character was simply an extension of FOX's overbearing hand weighing the film down. Xavier didn't notice/care about Cyclops's death because the studio wanted him gone, and having characters notice or care either way would be counter to their schemes and plotting and stuff.

I find that studio interference explains a whole lot of the massive problems that saturate this film, moreso than any other comicbook film.
 
..He did/ You'll notice the voice heard in the mansion right after jean and scott kiss is in fact professor whispering "scott". I dont think he really knows what happened to him though.
 
Tyrano said:
Yes - we saw him get a psychic fluctuation at the moment of scott's death, but what about afterwards? Why didnt he sense that he was gone? As we all know the professor is psychicly linked to all the mutants, I would assume he woulda sensed that he was no longer alive before Logan/Jean scene in the mansion and done something about it.
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Because then the movie would have been even shorter
 
Maybe their plan was to do to Cyclops what the comics did in the middle-late 90s.

Do we remember that buried storyline where Cyclops and Apocalypse merged mentally or something and he was killed off for a couple of years???

I'm sure Fox had that brilliant storyline in mind when they came up with his death in X3:dry:
 
Cyclops said:
I find that studio interference explains a whole lot of the massive problems that saturate this film, moreso than any other comicbook film.
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Amen. And that's really sad because the potential was so great for this project. Even with Brett on board they could've taken this whole franchise to a higher level.

Whenever I watch this film, somehow the actor's schedules at the time stay on my mind (James Marsden with SR, Anna Paquin doing "Margaret", etc.)...and it's so painfully transparent to see how the studio worked around all those conflicts.
 
Lightning Strikez! said:
Amen. And that's really said because the potential was so great for this project. Even with Brett on board they could've taken this whole franchise to a higher level.
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tell that to Fox's faces...though they don't care a damn what we think. :csad:
 
As much as I'd like to point out another plothole in X3, if you watch the first two films as well you'll notice he doesnt have any sort of psychic connection. Otherwise he couldve just telepathically contacted the X-men whenever he needed to instead of, say, speaking to them over an intercom in the jet.
 
^^^ tonytr1687, That's not correct. Xavier had no problems in X1 telepathically communicating to Logan. "Where are you going?", "Over here", etc.

As to why Xavier couldn't sense Scott's death? Simple. Xavier is a powerful mutant, but his powers have a limited range. As I understand it it doesn't go very far beyond the grounds of the mansion. 1-3 miles at most? Which is why he needed to go to the train station to have a stand-off with Magneto and control Toad and Sabretooth instead of just doing it from the comfort of his office while sitting in shorts and a t-shirt. He was obviously able to sense Jean/Phoenix, but then by definiton so was every other telepath on the planet. Something bad happening to Scott on the other hand is a bit more quiet of an event. If he was nearby, he would have. But considering that Alkali Lake is about 2300 miles from Westchester, that becomes a very faint signal to pick up indeed. I suppose he could have tried looking for Scott using Cerebro, if in fact he had Cerebro. However, after what Stryker did to it, Cerebro probably looked like a luxury car parked in a bad part of Broolyn: sitting on cinder blocks, with its radio, seats, headlights, hood ornament, and battery missing.
 
true, a broken cerebro... Now wheres that build it yourself charles picture starring magneto? LOL
 
ntcrawler said:
^^^ tonytr1687, That's not correct. Xavier had no problems in X1 telepathically communicating to Logan. "Where are you going?", "Over here", etc.
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That's because he knew Xavier was in the mansion, and where he was. And it wouldn't surprise me if the other telepath in the mansion, Jean Grey, sent a telepathic message to Xavier telling him that Wolverine got away.

That proves nothing about Xavier having a psychic link with the X-Men. It is not established in these films that he does.
 
Nell2ThaIzzay said:
ng about Xavier having a psychic link with the X-Men. It is not established in these films that he does.
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He doesn't need a psychic link to send a message into their heads. Doing so is a direct result of the nature of his powers. And if he did it with Logan, he can do it with the others too.
 
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Professor X doesn't care about Cyclops!!!
 
It's really quite simple. He sensed Scott's pain as Jean's power went out of control (or, as I like to think, she couldn't control her power, or his), and we saw that. But why couldn't he sense Scott's "death"? Because apparently, in the X-Men world, like in ours, most minds cannot physically "sense" a mind that no longer exists.

Charles Xavier is a telepath. And a psychic. But he's not a medium.
 
britrogue said:
I'm going for Scott really isn't dead.
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the Harrison Ford in your avatar, to the left... what's that from? "Force 10 From Navarone"? Anyways... I always thought that Ford in "Force 10" was the best Cyclops ever. Also, Robert Shaw in Jaws was the best Wolverine...
 
The Guard said:
It's really quite simple. He sensed Scott's pain as Jean's power went out of control (or, as I like to think, she couldn't control her power, or his
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I think she was controlling the powers pretty well.

Phoenix was unleashed, and for whatever reason, killed Cyclops. But Phoenix did it very willingly and knowingly.
 
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