Sequels Why i dont think there will be another spidey, and why carnage wouldnt be in it

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NO SEQUEL REASONS:
-The trilogy is about peter becoming a man and the third one rally finnished it. it tied up the loose ends.
-No more story archs
-No more villains that represent a foil or have emotional significance to peter

NO CARNAGE REASONS:
-No emotional significance to peter
-NO humanity
-Studio, filmmakers, audience, and critics might feel hes a rehash of venom (which he is)
 
48 days $874 million dollars.

A sequel is guaranteed.
 
NO SEQUEL REASONS:
-The trilogy is about peter becoming a man and the third one rally finnished it. it tied up the loose ends.
-No more story archs
-No more villains that represent a foil or have emotional significance to peter

Well yea it ties up loose ends for this trilogy, but there are a lot more storys to be told and villains that can easily be used.

NO CARNAGE REASONS:
-No emotional significance to peter
-NO humanity
-Studio, filmmakers, audience, and critics might feel hes a rehash of venom (which he is)
Yea I agree with you here :oldrazz:
 
I agree with the Carnage reasons, but if you think there's more more emotion or themes to be explored, you're really quite mistaken...

I mean, people have already discussed, in depth, the emotional ramifications of the Lizard scenario for Spider-Man 4...

Spider-Man 5 could have Mysterio, Scorpion, and Black Cat... with the Daily Bugle creating Scorpion as an attempt at superhero to defeat the villain Spider-Man, and he is initially marketed as such, and a good portion of the public buys into it (before he goes completely nuts), Mysterio would obviously be up to his old Mysterio-stuff, and Black Cat would provide a sort of foil to Spider-Man, and additional internal emotional conflict within Peter and the audience, and uncertainty as to whether she is an enemy or an ally... the theme being explored, of course, is that of truth and illusion.

Spider-Man 6 could have the Vulture (or Hobgoblin) and Electro... Electro being an insecure and emotionally unstable man who had a terrible childhood and never really had love, who, upon getting his powers, is manipulated in the direction of evil by Adrian Toomes (for his own personal benefit); as sort of a dark mentor, an evil Uncle Ben to Electro's Peter. We realize that so much of what culminated in Electro becoming a dangerous enemy is the lack of love and guidance from someone like Uncle Ben or Aunt May in his life, and the theme that could be explored is how love and the people around us can impact and shape our lives, and Peter is forced to realize that he is not so different from Maxwell Dillion, who, like himself, was pretty much an ordinary person who has strange powers, and all the baggage that comes with them, thrust upon him without warning or preparation, and, without guidance, love, and support from people like Uncle Ben, Aunt May, Mary Jane and others, he very easily could have gone in the same direction as Electro: the direction of using his powers for destruction. Every man is responsible for his own actions, but we must have the humility to recognize where others have carried us and pushed us in the direction of what's right.


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So...? Too cheesy? Even if those aren't any good, I think they still serve to point out that it is still very possible to pull something of dramatic and emotional value out of the remaining villains.
 
40 years of Spider-Man history is plenty of fuel for many more Spidey sequels.

But gain, it all comes down to the money at the BO. That is still the number one reason why sequels are guaranteed.
 
40 years of Spider-Man history is plenty of fuel for many more Spidey sequels.

But gain, it all comes down to the money at the BO. That is still the number one reason why sequels are guaranteed.

Yeah, they've all been mega-hits... but they need to do something to freshen things up, I think, because, if I'm the studio execs, the fact that each movie in the series has made a decent chunk less than the one before it would have me worried.
 
, the fact that each movie in the series has made a decent chunk less than the one before it would have me worried.

Not true.

Worldwide box office:

Spider-Man 1 $821 million
Spider-Man 2 $783 million
Spider-Man 3 (48 days) $875 million

Domestic box office, which I assume you are talking about, is just 1/3 of the total gross.
 
Not true.

Worldwide box office:

Spider-Man 1 $821 million
Spider-Man 2 $783 million
Spider-Man 3 (48 days) $875 million

Domestic box office, which I assume you are talking about, is just 1/3 of the total gross.

I was speaking domestically, and although the huge worldwide gross pretty much creates an automatic greenlight for Spider-Man 4, I'm still willing to bet the ticket sales decrease between films in the U.S. is something they're kind of concerned about.
 
I was speaking domestically, and although the huge worldwide gross pretty much creates an automatic greenlight for Spider-Man 4, I'm still willing to bet the ticket sales decrease between films in the U.S. is something they're kind of concerned about.

Why would they be concerned? It's only 1/3 of the box office. Also in most foriegn countries, the studio actually gets more of the ticket sales.

Not one person at Sony is concerned. The decrease in domestic sales for Spider-Man is a result of a drop in overall theater ticket sales which has been occuring for years.

Money is money. Worldwide gross for Spider-Man 3 is the highest of any of the Spidey films. That is ALL they are concerned with.
 
Why would they be concerned? It's only 1/3 of the box office. Also in most foriegn countries, the studio actually gets more of the ticket sales.

Not one person at Sony is concerned. The decrease in domestic sales for Spider-Man is a result of a drop in overall theater ticket sales which has been occuring for years.

Money is money. Worldwide gross for Spider-Man 3 is the highest of any of the Spidey films. That is ALL they are concerned with.

You win. I don't know for sure if you're RIGHT, but I have no way of disputing that.
 
You win. I don't know for sure if you're RIGHT, but I have no way of disputing that.

I am part owner in a local megaplex so I know the business. Ticket sales have been declining for years. With home theaters, high ticket prices, and loud obnoxious idiots making noise, people are going less and less to the theaters. That is a fact. I see the figures all the time.

If Sony is concerned, it’s only in accordance with the drop in all movie ticket sales.
 
I am part owner in a local megaplex so I know the business. Ticket sales have been declining for years. With home theaters, high ticket prices, and loud obnoxious idiots making noise, people are going less and less to the theaters. That is a fact. I see the figures all the time.

If Sony is concerned, it’s only in accordance with the drop in all movie ticket sales.

...and pirating.
 
Sony's already stated they're making six spidey films no matter what.
 
Lol
So true. I think the fourth one has a good possibility of being acceptable, but the fifth and six....
that's way to much.
 
NO SEQUEL REASONS:
-The trilogy is about peter becoming a man and the third one rally finnished it. it tied up the loose ends.
-No more story archs
-No more villains that represent a foil or have emotional significance to peter

NO CARNAGE REASONS:
-No emotional significance to peter
-NO humanity
-Studio, filmmakers, audience, and critics might feel hes a rehash of venom (which he is)
There always Doc Connors (The Lizard)
 
Lol
So true. I think the fourth one has a good possibility of being acceptable, but the fifth and six....
that's way to much.

Take a look at a certain franchise involving a British agent......
 
NO SEQUEL REASONS:
-The trilogy is about peter becoming a man and the third one rally finnished it. it tied up the loose ends.
-No more story archs
-No more villains that represent a foil or have emotional significance to peter

NO CARNAGE REASONS:
-No emotional significance to peter
-NO humanity
-Studio, filmmakers, audience, and critics might feel hes a rehash of venom (which he is)

you do know that sony confirmed they are making 6 fims, don't you?:cwink:
 
I think six is just enough. Two trilogies. Bam. Then they can be done for now.
 
NO SEQUEL REASONS:
-The trilogy is about peter becoming a man and the third one rally finnished it. it tied up the loose ends.
-No more story archs
-No more villains that represent a foil or have emotional significance to peter

George Lucas, is that you?
 
Take a look at a certain franchise involving a British agent......


lol. Yeah, Spidey could become the next 007 franchise.

And to the guy who started the thread, the trillogy is over, yes. They can make another trillogy. This one was basically the Goblin trillogy with 3 other villains mixed in. 1 and 3 had the goblins and 2 showed Harry progress into a Goblin. The next trillogy will have new storys that will have loose ends be tied in the 6th film and then they can make another trillogy. lol
 
Spider-man is a completely different type of character than said-british agent ;)

Of course he's a completely different type of character. I was just saying since the fanbase is pretty damn big for Bond and he's had movies coming out up the whazoo, I think Spiderman could do the same if done right. :yay:

I'm not a big Bond fan but im sure a number of the films didn't do to well at the BO in the past but that never stopped them from making more. Looking at how much this last Spidey film made, I think they could do it and keep him going like Bond. As long as they get good writers at least.
 

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