Age of Ultron Why introduce Thanos if he isn't even going to be in the sequel?

[cherokeesam]

Thanos's booking as the top heel is already way better than Darkseid or Apocalypse could possibly have.

Yeah, Thanos is in both Avengers 1 and 2, as well as GOTG. That's at least three movies that will set up the character before he plays Big Bad in Avengers 3. Apocalypse and Darkseid are, even by the most optimistic expectations, one-shot film villains.

 

[fixxxer]

Plus, I'm not ruling out GOTG 2 to close out Phase 3. It would serve as a perfect launching point for Avengers 3. And if that's the case, you can expect a very Thanos-centric plot for GOTG 2 as well as (obviously) Avengers 3. If I were to guess, this is how Thanos' MCU appearances work out...

Avengers = Mid-credit scene.
GOTG = About 10-15 minutes of screen-time for Thanos.
Avengers: Age Of Ultron = Mid-credit scene.
GOTG 2 = Thanos-centric plot. He might not be the main villain, but he'll definitely have a huge presence.
Avengers: The Infinity Gauntlet = All Thanos, all the time.

 

[Ultron]

Plus, I'm not ruling out GOTG 2 to close out Phase 3. It would serve as a perfect launching point for Avengers 3. And if that's the case, you can expect a very Thanos-centric plot for GOTG 2 as well as (obviously) Avengers 3. If I were to guess, this is how Thanos' MCU appearances work out...

Avengers = Mid-credit scene.
GOTG = About 10-15 minutes of screen-time for Thanos.
Avengers: Age Of Ultron = Mid-credit scene.
GOTG 2 = Thanos-centric plot. He might not be the main villain, but he'll definitely have a huge presence.
Avengers: The Infinity Gauntlet = All Thanos, all the time.

Sounds good to me!!!

 

[TheVision]

Oh Thanny Boy The Stones The Stones Are Calliiiiing

 

[ctsketch]

The irony of all this is its looking very likely that we will see both Apocalypse and Darkseid (two Thanos-ish characters) before Thanos himself in Avengers 3.

Thanos is in GOTG

 

[The Endless]

Even if Darkseid and Apoc make full appearances before Thanos... Thanos has been built up like the Emperor in Star Wars. His influence and power and threat will have been established long before he makes his full debut. Which if done well, will make him out to be THE top villain in this era of comic book movies.

No doubt Darkseid and Apoc will be portrayed as huge threats. But like already said, they'll be one shot villains or maybe re-occuring villains. Not total overlords of villainy.

 

[TheVision]

Its not about whos first, but whos the best (Thanos).

 

[Khonshu]

I do think that there is something to the way in which our view is shaped by innovation - the world of cinema is mostly driven by visuals (though I'm one of the biggest writing and sound geeks out there) and we tend to judge what comes afterward against our original impressions of stuff. So far, we've only seen Thanos at the end of Avengers, and this brief glimpse was a "huh?" moment for non-comic book fans. I think that it's smart for the MCU to provide more screen time and character to Thanos for Guardians, if only to establish the "this is the original big cosmic bad guy" character in the minds of all of the non-comic movie goers. This way, when Apocalypse and Darkseid come along - the average movie goer thinks, "Hey, this guy is kinda like the guy in Guardians of the Galaxy" and not the other way around when we finally get to Avengers 3.

The Guardians film is a landmark moment for Marvel Cinema in many ways - maybe most importantly from a story-writing perspective in that it blows the doors to the story settings/locations WIDE OPEN. If "Guardians" works, and if the general public buys into the idea that Star Lord exists in the SAME world as the Avengers, then you can send the Avengers off to ANY planet, ANY solar system, ANY space setting you want. Thanos no longer needs to come to Earth, you see... and we can entertain the story possibility that the Infinity Gems could assemble anywhere, in any galaxy.

If Ant-Man and Dr. Strange work, then we add in the concept of even MORE possibilities - the Microverse, alternate dimensions, and mystical realms - adding countless palettes for the writers to use in setting the stories.

Man, I'm getting excited just writing this stuff...

 

[The Endless]

Yea some great points. I think Thor could do with exploring the cosmos a bit more. I don't think they've even scratched the surface on that characters potential.

 

[antdogs]

I do think that there is something to the way in which our view is shaped by innovation - the world of cinema is mostly driven by visuals (though I'm one of the biggest writing and sound geeks out there) and we tend to judge what comes afterward against our original impressions of stuff. So far, we've only seen Thanos at the end of Avengers, and this brief glimpse was a "huh?" moment for non-comic book fans. I think that it's smart for the MCU to provide more screen time and character to Thanos for Guardians, if only to establish the "this is the original big cosmic bad guy" character in the minds of all of the non-comic movie goers. This way, when Apocalypse and Darkseid come along - the average movie goer thinks, "Hey, this guy is kinda like the guy in Guardians of the Galaxy" and not the other way around when we finally get to Avengers 3.

The Guardians film is a landmark moment for Marvel Cinema in many ways - maybe most importantly from a story-writing perspective in that it blows the doors to the story settings/locations WIDE OPEN. If "Guardians" works, and if the general public buys into the idea that Star Lord exists in the SAME world as the Avengers, then you can send the Avengers off to ANY planet, ANY solar system, ANY space setting you want. Thanos no longer needs to come to Earth, you see... and we can entertain the story possibility that the Infinity Gems could assemble anywhere, in any galaxy.

If Ant-Man and Dr. Strange work, then we add in the concept of even MORE possibilities - the Microverse, alternate dimensions, and mystical realms - adding countless palettes for the writers to use in setting the stories.

Man, I'm getting excited just writing this stuff...

yeah i agree with you!.. i wonder what they will do after avengers 3.. hmm and phase 3.. what other bad guy can they throw at the avengers? whos bigger than thanos.. and not galactus.. isnt he in the fantastic for universe?

 

[ctsketch]

the next villain doesn't always have to be "bigger"

 

[TheVision]

With all the great sci fi/fantasy movies of the past, theres no reason MCU cant explore all types of subgenres and worlds like that. All that matters is the characters/stories are well told/realized. Marvel is lucky because their characters are really interesting to begin with and are perfect for film/TV adaptations. Also with the technology theyve got today CGI/FX wise they can do anything they want.

What I hope changes is the whole cliche mega destruction finale in every super hero film. They have to figure out other ways to create intense conflicts in these movies so they dont have exactly the same CGI heavy endings every time.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Plus, I'm not ruling out GOTG 2 to close out Phase 3. It would serve as a perfect launching point for Avengers 3. And if that's the case, you can expect a very Thanos-centric plot for GOTG 2 as well as (obviously) Avengers 3. If I were to guess, this is how Thanos' MCU appearances work out...

Avengers = Mid-credit scene.
GOTG = About 10-15 minutes of screen-time for Thanos.
Avengers: Age Of Ultron = Mid-credit scene.
GOTG 2 = Thanos-centric plot. He might not be the main villain, but he'll definitely have a huge presence.
Avengers: The Infinity Gauntlet = All Thanos, all the time.

I can see GOTG2 closing with a post-credits scene of Thanos with the IG fully assembled (no pun intended), and just as he snaps his fingers to exterminate half of the universe's population, we cut to black.

 

[TheVision]

Itll be really cool to see what Thanos is like as a fully fleshed out character after all this time.

 

[Ultron]

I can see GOTG2 closing with a post-credits scene of Thanos with the IG fully assembled (no pun intended), and just as he snaps his fingers to exterminate half of the universe's population, we cut to black.

I think MS will put more emphasis on the IG since it will become the center story for Avengers 3. Also, so that the general audience will see it and be curious as to what it's all about. Marvel/comic fans will stick around for the mid-credit scenes, but I don't think they take the chance the GA will. I do like your idea of snapping his fingers and it cuts to black, that sounds awesome!

 

[cherokeesam]

I do think that there is something to the way in which our view is shaped by innovation - the world of cinema is mostly driven by visuals (though I'm one of the biggest writing and sound geeks out there) and we tend to judge what comes afterward against our original impressions of stuff. So far, we've only seen Thanos at the end of Avengers, and this brief glimpse was a "huh?" moment for non-comic book fans. I think that it's smart for the MCU to provide more screen time and character to Thanos for Guardians, if only to establish the "this is the original big cosmic bad guy" character in the minds of all of the non-comic movie goers. This way, when Apocalypse and Darkseid come along - the average movie goer thinks, "Hey, this guy is kinda like the guy in Guardians of the Galaxy" and not the other way around when we finally get to Avengers 3.

The Guardians film is a landmark moment for Marvel Cinema in many ways - maybe most importantly from a story-writing perspective in that it blows the doors to the story settings/locations WIDE OPEN. If "Guardians" works, and if the general public buys into the idea that Star Lord exists in the SAME world as the Avengers, then you can send the Avengers off to ANY planet, ANY solar system, ANY space setting you want. Thanos no longer needs to come to Earth, you see... and we can entertain the story possibility that the Infinity Gems could assemble anywhere, in any galaxy.

If Ant-Man and Dr. Strange work, then we add in the concept of even MORE possibilities - the Microverse, alternate dimensions, and mystical realms - adding countless palettes for the writers to use in setting the stories.

Man, I'm getting excited just writing this stuff...

Just within the last day or two, Feige was gushing about how the upcoming Dr. Strange film opens up that whole supernatural side of Marvel, and will unlock more characters and storylines. (I'd be willing to bet that could mean the return of Blade and Ghost Rider in the not too distant future, since Marvel Studios have already reacquired the film rights.)

 

[The.Brotherhood]

Darkseid and Apocalypse are great threats BUT the wayy MCU building up Thanos, he can't be match by those two.

A main villain in a course of a film < A main villain in a course of a cinematic universe.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

i'm still not sure if we get thanos as main villain in avengers 3...i think it depends on guardians of the galaxy 2...if they introduce more cosmic characters such as adam warlock, nova, maybe captain marv ell and then dr. strange(in his solo movie) the chances are higher for them to win against thanos in the third avengers movie, i mean together with the guardians.
or the avengers lose the first time and in the fourth they all meet with the guardians and others.
i also think there's the chance for marvel to let some of the main avengers die in the third...so they can either renegotiate or recast for more avengers movies and other solo franchises...and maybe then they take on thanos in the 6th avengers movie or so.

i also think thanos should be the biggest baddie out there...cause as long silver surfer and galactus, or apocalypse arent part of the mcu they should stick with lesser strong villains for the avengers...like m.o.d.o.k, kang, or zemo and thunderbolts or the masters of evil, or even the beyonder(no scrap the beyonder ...he looks to be strongest of them all acording to some list i just found)just right after the living tribunal...which i never heard of before....

 

[TheVision]

^^ The thing with Thanos is, if hes built up to be THE BIG BADDIE, where do they go after hes defeated? Itll be like a big step down. I dont know how they plan to do this.

 

[cherokeesam]

^^ The thing with Thanos is, if hes built up to be THE BIG BADDIE, where do they go after hes defeated? Itll be like a big step down. I dont know how they plan to do this.

Bigger =/= better.
The Marvel Universe, including the Avengers, has stayed very vibrant, very interesting, very alive after defeating cosmic universe-shaking threats time and again.

 

[TheVision]

^^ Fair enough, maybe the most powerful villain in the universe isnt always the interesting way to go.

 

[Dr. Thanos]

Well, when they eventually get the Fantastic Four rights back, the next "big thing" could be an Annihilation movie. If Thanos survives Avengers 3 like he survived Infinity Gauntlet, that is very possible. The only problem would be the cast since it doesn't prominently feature any Earth characters (except for that crappy "What If" issue), so I guess the viability depends on how well Guardians Of The Galaxy does.

 

[TheVision]

It will be kinda odd to have Thanos be a major force in the universe and just be killed at the end of Avengers 3. Its like Loki in A1, he didnt die. ULTRON, not sure how theyll get rid of him, if it will be permanent or be a thing where he might still be around in some form after the big battle.

If they didnt kill Thanos, how would they contain/jail him? Could they even do that?

 

[SilentWarriorZ]

what if they do Marvel The End storyline

 

[TheVision]

Iron Monger: Dead
Blonsky: Jailed
Red Skull: Zapped into sky by Tesseract
Loki: Still alive
Killian: Dead
Malekith: I actually forget what happened to him. TDW really impressed me I guess.
Ronan: ???
Ultron: ???
Thanos: ???