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Why Judge Dredd is an underrated gem..

Horrorfan

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Yes you heard me.


Judge Dredd gets a bad wrap (oh noes, he took his helmet off!).

But here's my case on why it is in reality, a gem of a movie.


The satire of the comic isn't there so much, which helps the movie. Why? Not so much of a lefty soap box, which helps the movie immensly without the baggage of political preaching and agendas.

In addition it helps enchance and deepen the character of Dredd, which the comic never really did, or tried to do. The point of the movie is that the law is not infalliable. Joe Dredd learns this lesson the hard way. He has to go through hell to learn that the letter of the law is not always the be all and end all. He learns how to regain his humanity, and learns that sometimes you have to go through hell to make yourself a better person. He comes out at the end still the law, still the bad ass he started as, but perhaps a fairer and more balanced person, and not just a caricature.

And Rob Schnider was actually amusing. Do you know how hard that is to pull off, especially in retrospect of his later movie?

'I'm alive! I'm alive!'

looks at Dredd.

'Oh. so are you.

Not to mention other great moments of dialogue and one liners.

'Two prisoners tried to make it out by running once...'

Did they make it?'

'No, but the theory's sound.'

And did I mention the block war scene, and how the city looks dead on?
And the FANTASTIC soundtrack.

Sure he takes off his helmet, but you knew it was Stallone anyway so what's the big deal?

Come on peeps, show the love.
 
I do like the film, but it is very hit and miss. It had some great moments, but was seriously lacking in many many points:
Exploding lawgiver
Psi Division and Anderson
Fink Angel
Titan Prison
etc.

!......
 
I Never Read Judge Dredd, Apart From A Batman Crossover.
The Movie Wasn't Bad, Imo, Just Not Very Compelling.
 
I saw this piece of garbage in theaters. God, what a waste. I didn't mind Stallone as Dredd, but the story was just played out.
 
I've only read th' Bats cross-over too, but I liked th' movie. Wasn't perfect but I enjoy it and that's all that matters.
 
Which One Did You Read? I Read One Called The Ultimate Riddle.
 
I didn't mind Judge Dredd taking off his helmet, I didn't mind the comic relief with Deuce Bigelow(can't think of his name right now)

but dammit they should've had the Dark Judges it it
dkjudges.jpg



this movie, along with the Spawn movie had sooo much potential, but they let idiots make the movie and fook it all up
 
I read the Batman crossover too, I still have 2 of them

The movie was ok, just another forgettable action flick.
 
Horrorfan said:
Yes you heard me.


Judge Dredd gets a bad wrap (oh noes, he took his helmet off!).

But here's my case on why it is in reality, a gem of a movie.


The satire of the comic isn't there so much, which helps the movie. Why? Not so much of a lefty soap box, which helps the movie immensly without the baggage of political preaching and agendas.

In addition it helps enchance and deepen the character of Dredd, which the comic never really did, or tried to do. The point of the movie is that the law is not infalliable. Joe Dredd learns this lesson the hard way. He has to go through hell to learn that the letter of the law is not always the be all and end all. He learns how to regain his humanity, and learns that sometimes you have to go through hell to make yourself a better person. He comes out at the end still the law, still the bad ass he started as, but perhaps a fairer and more balanced person, and not just a caricature.

And Rob Schnider was actually amusing. Do you know how hard that is to pull off, especially in retrospect of his later movie?

'I'm alive! I'm alive!'

looks at Dredd.

'Oh. so are you.

Not to mention other great moments of dialogue and one liners.

'Two prisoners tried to make it out by running once...'

Did they make it?'

'No, but the theory's sound.'

And did I mention the block war scene, and how the city looks dead on?
And the FANTASTIC soundtrack.

Sure he takes off his helmet, but you knew it was Stallone anyway so what's the big deal?

Come on peeps, show the love.


You're joking.

Judge Dredd is NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY CHARACTER. He's the physical embodiment of a facist state. he doesn't take his mask off because he doesn't have an identity. Judge Dredd comics are all satirical, they are not supposed to be taken at face value.
 
Kevin Roegele said:
You're joking.

Judge Dredd is NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY CHARACTER. He's the physical embodiment of a facist state. he doesn't take his mask off because he doesn't have an identity. Judge Dredd comics are all satirical, they are not supposed to be taken at face value.

That's what I said. It was nothing more than a soap box for leftys (oh law is bad, those poor criminals wah wah wah) and I am completely glad it eschewed that. I didn't want to be preached at over some half baked lefty satire. I got a good movie with some depth and layers, something the comic never had.
 
Horrorfan said:
That's what I said. It was nothing more than a soap box for leftys (oh law is bad, those poor criminals wah wah wah) and I am completely glad it eschewed that. I didn't want to be preached at over some half baked lefty satire. I got a good movie with some depth and layers, something the comic never had.

:confused:

If Judge Dredd eschews what it's all about - which is what the movie does - it's no longer Judge Dredd.

It's like saying, "I'm sick of Superman being a positive, heroic character, let's take all that out."
 
Kevin Roegele said:
:confused:

If Judge Dredd eschews what it's all about - which is what the movie does - it's no longer Judge Dredd.

It's like saying, "I'm sick of Superman being a positive, heroic character, let's take all that out."


They took a potentially good character and sci fi world from poor writers and made it decent- I don't see the crime.
 
My friends and I all enjoyed watching JD in jr. high along with a barrage of other 90s-friendly action movies! I hated it at first, but it really grew on me and i'm a fan... but they did try to humanize him, and you know what, it's not like they're making any more JD movies so I'll just enjoy this single movie for its nostalgia value from my adolescent days
 
I can only hope that you are joking with these threads Horrorfan, because, if not, you may very well have the single worst understanding of cinema of anyone who has ever graced these boards.
 
reggiebar said:
I can only hope that you are joking with these threads Horrorfan, because, if not, you may very well have the single worst understanding of cinema of anyone who has ever graced these boards.

I guess I have the worst understanding of cinema then, because if a fanboy on a comic website says it, it must be true :up:
 
Horrorfan said:
They took a potentially good character and sci fi world from poor writers and made it decent- I don't see the crime.
Even though those "poor writers" created a character that has been around for almost 30 years, and is one of Britain's best known comic characters.

Main Writers: John Wagner, Alan Grant, Pat Mills, Garth Ennis

Main Artists: Carlos Ezquerra, Mike McMahon, Brian Bolland, Ron Smith, Ian Gibson, Steve Dillon, Cam Kennedy, John Burns, John Higgins, Cliff Robinson, Colin MacNeil, Kevin Walker, Will Simpson, Peter Doherty.. and many more.

Other writers, (mostly for stories between May 1993 and July 1995, when Grath Ennis left and John Wagner was not back regularily ) => Dan Abnett, John Higgins, Peter Hogan, Alan McKenzie (under pen-name of "Sonny Steelgrave"), Mark Millar, Grant Morrison, John Smith, Chris Standley.

Use google to find out about the writers. Yes, some may not be big names, but then how many writers in the world are Moore, Gaiman, Morrison, Loeb, or JMS?
 
Horrorfan said:
I guess I have the worst understanding of cinema then, because if a fanboy on a comic website says it, it must be true :up:

I am not a fanboy - check out some of my posts. BTW, yes, since I said you have no understandig of cinema, you don't.
 
Addendum said:
Even though those "poor writers" created a character that has been around for almost 30 years, and is one of Britain's best known comic characters.

Main Writers: John Wagner, Alan Grant, Pat Mills, Garth Ennis

Main Artists: Carlos Ezquerra, Mike McMahon, Brian Bolland, Ron Smith, Ian Gibson, Steve Dillon, Cam Kennedy, John Burns, John Higgins, Cliff Robinson, Colin MacNeil, Kevin Walker, Will Simpson, Peter Doherty.. and many more.

Other writers, (mostly for stories between May 1993 and July 1995, when Grath Ennis left and John Wagner was not back regularily ) => Dan Abnett, John Higgins, Peter Hogan, Alan McKenzie (under pen-name of "Sonny Steelgrave"), Mark Millar, Grant Morrison, John Smith, Chris Standley.

Use google to find out about the writers. Yes, some may not be big names, but then how many writers in the world are Moore, Gaiman, Morrison, Loeb, or JMS?

It is clear that Horrorfan does not have much knowldge of movies, comics or anything else for that matter.
 
Addendum said:
Even though those "poor writers" created a character that has been around for almost 30 years, and is one of Britain's best known comic characters.

Main Writers: John Wagner, Alan Grant, Pat Mills, Garth Ennis

Main Artists: Carlos Ezquerra, Mike McMahon, Brian Bolland, Ron Smith, Ian Gibson, Steve Dillon, Cam Kennedy, John Burns, John Higgins, Cliff Robinson, Colin MacNeil, Kevin Walker, Will Simpson, Peter Doherty.. and many more.

Other writers, (mostly for stories between May 1993 and July 1995, when Grath Ennis left and John Wagner was not back regularily ) => Dan Abnett, John Higgins, Peter Hogan, Alan McKenzie (under pen-name of "Sonny Steelgrave"), Mark Millar, Grant Morrison, John Smith, Chris Standley.

Use google to find out about the writers. Yes, some may not be big names, but then how many writers in the world are Moore, Gaiman, Morrison, Loeb, or JMS?

Wow all that history and still the movie made a deeper character.

I know that was the point, but I liked seeing a fully rounded character. ANYONE can write a 2d non existant character, it's easy.
 
Horrorfan said:
Wow all that history and still the movie made a deeper character.

I know that was the point, but I liked seeing a fully rounded character. ANYONE can write a 2d non existant character, it's easy.
Then log off here, create a character and send it to a comic book publisher since it's so easy.

If not, shut the hell up.
 
reggiebar said:
It is clear that Horrorfan does not have much knowldge of movies, comics or anything else for that matter.


Also clear you're a whiney ***** :D
 
Addendum said:
Then log off here, create a character and send it to a comic book publisher since it's so easy.

If not, shut the hell up.


So you're saying it's hard to create a character with no depth?


John Mundais is a guy who just likes to have sex and nothing else.

See? I just did it.
 
Horrorfan said:
So you're saying it's hard to create a character with no depth?


John Mundais is a guy who just likes to have sex and nothing else.

See? I just did it.
Since when does superherohype.com publish comics?
 

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