Why Nolan??

[DeaDheaD]

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[L0ngsh0t]

Films like "2001", "Citizen Kane", "Logan's Run" and "Clockwork Orange" were extremely though provoking and yet aren't that entertaining in the way I think you're suggesting...

So you're telling me that those films suck?

Only an ignorant teenager with a short attention span would say something to this effect...

CFE

Clockwork Orange is badass cause it offers a bit more than 70 year old AFI critcs saying it is the best movie ever made....

Entertainment is what a movie is, it can be the best made movie ever, and if there is no entertainment what is the point of it?

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I'd have to agree...in spite of what it did for the Batman franchise, I'd hardly call "Batman Begins" the greatest comic book/super hero film ever.

That title belongs to "Superman: The Movie" IMHO

CFE

Wow way to be a tool again, first citizen kane and now this?

I love movies where superman saves cats from trees! man talk about exciting.....

Batman Begins is so much better than Superman, speaking of that so is Spiderman/Spiderman 2, V for Vendetta, and Sin City,

Superman 2 how ever is pretty stellar, and much better than its original

 

[CFE]

Wow way to be a tool again, first citizen kane and now this?

I love movies where superman saves cats from trees! man talk about exciting.....

Batman Begins is so much better than Superman, speaking of that so is Spiderman/Spiderman 2, V for Vendetta, and Sin City,

Superman 2 how ever is pretty stellar, and much better than its original

If THAT's all you can get out of movies than I pity you...

CFE

 

[L0ngsh0t]

If THAT's all you can get out of movies than I pity you...

CFE

no its not all, but entertainment is the minimum requirement for me to say it is a good movie, how could I say otherwise?

 

[CFE]

no its not all, but entertainment is the minimum requirement for me to say it is a good movie

That's one HELL of a minimum...

that logic is absolutely ridiculous...

CFE

 

[L0ngsh0t]

That's one HELL of a minimum...

that logic is absolutely ridiculous...

CFE

how so, you mean to tell me you watch and like movies that don't entertain you?

 

[CFE]

how so, you mean to tell me you watch and like movies that don't entertain you?

No, I'm saying that to be an 'entertaining' film doesn't make it a 'good film'

But you apparently think so...

CFE

 

[L0ngsh0t]

No, I'm saying that to be an 'entertaining' film doesn't make it a 'good film'

But you apparently think so...

CFE

How does it not, why do you watch movies if not to enjoy them? If you enjoy Resident Evil 2 does it not make it good, it did its job, you paid money to be entertained, you want to enjoy your 10 dollars, it completes its end of the bargain by being a good movie

 

[CFE]

I enjoyed X3 and Spiderman 3, but I wouldn't be so naive as to call them 'good films' just because they had a lot of s**t exploding and what have you...

If a film is entertaining...GASP...it's called an 'entertaining film'

but that hardly means it's a 'good' one...

CFE

 

[cky]

I have always admired Nolan's work ethic and direction. He always learns about what he is going to direct prior way into pre production, which 95% of the directors out there don't do. That goes a long way into making the film a lot more true to the subject matter and it shows in every movie he has done. Example, Memento, the way him and his brother structured the story and the script, and it was edited perfectly to show that. Since it put you in the place of Leonard and his condition. Nolan understood the condition and applied it very well to the movie.

In all his movies, I love his cinematography, and shot selection. He constantly changes it for the subject matter; he never sticks to a certain style, which in the end he is own style. Example, the Prestige, he rarely used any crane shots, but sticked to the eye level camera shots because the Prestige is a character based movie rather then a epic action movie. He wanted the film to be personal and that's what you got with the Prestige.

And don't forget he constantly gets great, solid performances out of his actors.

But in the end, everyone's opinion is going to be different.

 

[CFE]

I have always admired Nolan's work ethic and direction. He always learns about what he is going to direct prior way into pre production, which 95% of the directors out there don't do. That goes a long way into making the film a lot more true to the subject matter and it shows in every movie he has done. Example, Memento, the way him and his brother structured the story and the script, and it was edited perfectly to show that. Since it put you in the place of Leonard and his condition. Nolan understood the condition and applied it very well to the movie.

In all his movies, I love his cinematography, and shot selection. He constantly changes it for the subject matter; he never sticks to a certain style, which in the end he is own style. Example, the Prestige, he rarely used any crane shots, but sticked to the eye level camera shots because the Prestige is a character based movie rather then a epic action movie. He wanted the film to be personal and that's what you got with the Prestige.

And don't forget he constantly gets great, solid performances out of his actors.

But in the end, everyone's opinion is going to be different.

Agreed.

CFE

 

[AhabTheArab]

hey i loved memento as much as they next guy, but i can't even sit through it anymore, its well written, but the acting is pretty poop. and insomnia is 100% forgettable, it should not be mentioned. prestige was at least a cool idea, had a couple twists, and entertained if you ask me, but ill check it out again to make sure i still enjoy it.

batman begins is so over rated though, and the shaky cam was used because all of the people bale is fighting are taller than him. and he would look like a little dude if they used a different angle. just my opinion, but time will hopefully improve your standards for movies.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I enjoyed X3 and Spiderman 3, but I wouldn't be so naive as to call them 'good films' just because they had a lot of s**t exploding and what have you...

If a film is entertaining...GASP...it's called an 'entertaining film'

but that hardly means it's a 'good' one...

CFE

those are the words of a tool, and that is all I can say

you enjoyed the movies, why is it so hard for you to call them good? I wasn't a huge fan of X3, and I loved SM3

Do I like SM3 better than SM2? No

 

[CFE]

those are the words of a tool, and that is all I can say

Careful...your age is showing

CFE

 

[Mr. Socko]

I'd have to agree...in spite of what it did for the Batman franchise, I'd hardly call "Batman Begins" the greatest comic book/super hero film ever.

That title belongs to "Superman: The Movie" IMHO

CFE

Dare you to post this in the Batman Begins forum lol

 

[CFE]

Dare you to post this in the Batman Begins forum lol

I'm smarter than that lol

But it does go without saying...post a favorite CB film in ANY forum that would contradict the majority of people in that forum and you're just looking for trouble...

Then again, the "Is Begins Overrated" Thread doesn't seem to be causing too much chaos over there...

CFE

 

[Hush]

I think Nolan is amazing because i have failed to see one of his movies and have a bad review of it or see critics say that one of them was bad so he must be doing something right.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Careful...your age is showing

CFE

I'm sorry if I am a lot more mature than you and actually man up to the fact I think SM3 is a good movie as is Resident Evil 2, and National Treasure, cause I happen to like movies like that

you immaturely play the game of "it sucks but it is entertaining even though I have watched 10 more times than I have Citizen Kane, which I consider the best movie ever, cause AFI says so, I only have seen it once though"

I happen to formulate my own opinions on movies, and don't let media outlets like that do it for me

If you do think Citizen Kane is the best movie ever, and can't man up to the fact you think SM3 is good, so you say its entertaining but bad, you sir are a tool

 

[Cain]

He NEVER uses it without a good reason. The fights in BB had to be confusing because of you know....Batman's tendency to sneak up on a crook and beat him senseless. With that style you can't have overhead shots and stylized fighting like The Matrix.
And The Prestige felt fresh because the camera stayed at eye-level 90% of the time. Everytime someone makes a Victorian flick, you get big swooping crane moves that say ''look at the stes we built!'' A gritty, handheld costume film. Now that's genius.

Very untrue, but as much as I and many others disagreed with that stylistic choice it was still his choice. It felt in line with his vision and that is the sign of a good filmmaker. Anyway I own all his movies but the problem with them is that they don't have much replay value to me, not even Batman Begins.

I loved Memento but honestly haven't sat down and watched it since at least 2004, I thought the original Insomnia was superior to his remake. I only saw The Prestige once in theatres and once when I bought the DVD and have no desire to revisit the film. He's very talented and puts and is a very well organized filmmaker you could see the amount of thoughts that he puts in every minute of his films. But ultimately his films just don't grab me like say a Scorsese picture does. Where I could revisit them time and time again. That being said his career is still young and his best years are yet to come. I'm personally curious to see how he updates something like The Prisoner.

The Crow, there I said it and no I'm not biased

I completely agree, and this is coming from a major Batman fan.

 

[Penismightier]

Nolan hits all of the marks of a talented filmmaker. Good shots, good script, good lighting, etc. But there's no soul to his work. I have never really cared for a character in Nolan's work outside of Pearce in Memento. That says a lot about the visual aspects of his films since they're still watchable.

 

[Steve Rogers]

Nolan is decent at best. His films usualy hinge on a gimmick to work (i.e. the already loved character of Batman, telling a story backwards, etc.) and that is simply not enough. Insomnia is dull and lifeless as was Momento. The backwards story telling was not "cool" and "innovative" it was a pointless distraction and the ending was anti-climactic. And Batman Begins? I'm sorry, I do not see why everyone gets behind this movie so much. The action sequences were shot like a film school drop out was arranging the action, the storyline was unclear (I've seen the film twice and I can't tell you what it's about) and the lack of chemistry (especially with Katie Holmes) made the film highly unbelievable. Batman Begins was a boring, drab, and mediocre film. I'm sorry, there is nothing special about Nolan. Calling his work thought provoking made me chuckle.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

He makes good films and brought the Bat's swagger back. And Batman Begins is one of the top 3 best movies of the genre.

 

[CFE]

I'm sorry if I am a lot more mature than you and actually man up to the fact I think SM3 is a good movie as is Resident Evil 2, and National Treasure, cause I happen to like movies like that

you immaturely play the game of "it sucks but it is entertaining even though I have watched 10 more times than I have Citizen Kane, which I consider the best movie ever, cause AFI says so, I only have seen it once though"

I happen to formulate my own opinions on movies, and don't let media outlets like that do it for me

If you do think Citizen Kane is the best movie ever, and can't man up to the fact you think SM3 is good, so you say its entertaining but bad, you sir are a tool

I've seen Citizen Kane more than SM3.

Brazil, The Wages of Fear, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Double Indemnity...I've seen all of these more than SM3.

And I don't recall ever saying outside forces formulate my opinions for films.

SM3 is not a good film. It's entertaining...it's certainly loud and obnoxious...but that doesn't make it good.

I'm not a tool...my apprecitation of movies is just not as juvenile as yours.

CFE

 

[Penismightier]

Nolan is decent at best. His films usualy hinge on a gimmick to work (i.e. the already loved character of Batman, telling a story backwards, etc.) and that is simply not enough. Insomnia is dull and lifeless as was Momento. The backwards story telling was not "cool" and "innovative" it was a pointless distraction and the ending was anti-climactic. And Batman Begins? I'm sorry, I do not see why everyone gets behind this movie so much. The action sequences were shot like a film school drop out was arranging the action, the storyline was unclear (I've seen the film twice and I can't tell you what it's about) and the lack of chemistry (especially with Katie Holmes) made the film highly unbelievable. Batman Begins was a boring, drab, and mediocre film. I'm sorry, there is nothing special about Nolan. Calling his work thought provoking made me chuckle.

Yes! I've been thinking this for some time. All of his movies seem to rely on some sort of gimmick or plot twist. He's getting to be like M. Night, just without it being nearly as silly. It's never a good sign as a filmmaker when people start wondering on message boards what the next twist in your movie will be since you always "play around" with your audience. I.E. Joker twist.