Why SPIDER-MAN 3 is the GREATEST

[Darkest Knight]

Of the Spider-man movies ... (Wow, I'm going out on a limb here, and I hope I don't get flamed or butchered in the process ... just my opinion, so stay with me.)

The reason why Spider-man 3 is the best Spider-man film to me isn't because it was entertaining, it wasn't because of Venom, it wasn't for the black suit, or because it was fun, or more like the comic book than any of the other movies. Throw all that out the window.

The reason it's the best is because Spider-man 3 is the first super hero film to have the balls to do something truly innovative.

The entire theme and statement of the movie is FORGIVENESS. How unique is that? Its kind of a put off at first, but if you buy into, it becomes a revolutionary idea for this type of movie. That's NEVER been done before. It gives the film a very unique sensibility.

With superhero movies it just gets you pumped up for the comfort zone, yet potentially cliche good guy v/s bad guy routine. This movie questions all those motives, theories and stories. Villains that essentially were good people at one point, who went bad, and instead of being so black and white, we see our hero have the HEART to forgive people who have wronged him. THAT is awesome. And by god if they had just cut a few things out, and focused more on their strong points thematically, from various actors, and character subplots ... this film could've been EVEN BETTER. Spider-man 3 as of right now is officially underrated. And once you guys come around, I'll be the one standing here saying "I told you so..."

 

[The Chris]

In total agreement, and also it was interesting that the only person who could not forgive was Eddie Brock/Venom. Peter forgave Sandman, Harry forgave Peter, Peter forgave Harry, MJ forgave Peter, etc. Yet, Venom was incapable of that, and he died for it. Sure, Harry died too, but he died a Harry, and a better man than his father ever was. That's why I love this movie.

 

[SolidSnake]

I agree with the OP.

 

[DyeLorean]

It is indeed unique in what you say, and let me add that it has been that way in every Spider-Man film, having a distinctive over-all theme, that is.

D!

 

[Spider-Bite]

here is why spider-man 3 is not the geatest.

The mere fact that somebody has to try and convince somebody else. sitting in the theatre alone should be enough to do it. If I need you to tell me how good it is, in order for me to realize it, then it's not that great.

The movie was pretty good, but a huge let down when compared to what it should have been.

 

[Sun_Down]

I agree that the whole forgiveness thing was pretty original, but they just crammed too much crap into the movie and didn't execute that storyline very well.

 

[El Payaso]

It is by far the worst of the series and one of the worse superhero movies ever made.

 

[Darkest Knight]

here is why spider-man 3 is not the geatest.

The mere fact that somebody has to try and convince somebody else.

Don't make yourself feel special sparky, I'm talking to everyone. Not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just making conversation.

 

[StylishHokie21]

It is by far the worst of the series and one of the worse superhero movies ever made.

Come on now! One of the worst?

 

[Darkest Knight]

It is by far the worst of the series and one of the worse superhero movies ever made.

Not even close ...

The 1st Team All-Superhero Movies:
1) Batman Begins
2) Superman: The Movie
3) Batman

The 2nd Team All-Superhero Movies:
- Spider-man 2
- X-Men 2
- Superman 2
- Batman Returns
- V for Vendetta

The 3rd Team All-Superhero Movies:
- Spider-man
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
- Hulk
- Spider-man 3
- Superman Returns
- Blade
- Blade 2
- X-Men
- X-Men 3
- Rocketeer
- Dick Tracy

The Rest, and the worst:
- Ghost Rider
- Daredevil
- Blade 3
- Batman Forever
- Batman and Robin
- Fantastic Four
- Catwoman
- Superman 3
- Superman 4

etc.

All in all, you had too high expectations coming into this movie. As did most of you fanboys. You built it up to much, the results or your opinion is a by product of too much anticipation. That's why within the grand scheme of things, my thread labeling Spider-man 3 the GREATEST of th e bunch is restoring balance. The movie isn't as great as I said (my opinion is partially sincere, and partly for discussion purposes), but the movie certainly isn't near as bad as you fellas make it out to be.

 

[Ryo Jin]

Daredevil should at LEAST be with the 3rd team list you got there. Have you SEEN the Director's Cut? Lightyears ahead of the crap they gave us in theaters.

 

[Darkest Knight]

Daredevil should at LEAST be with the 3rd team list you got there. Have you SEEN the Director's Cut? Lightyears ahead of the crap they gave us in theaters.

Yeah I've seen it, but it still isn't a very good movie. However, it can't be put in there for the simple fact that it isn't an official movie. The producer even says this in the making of the D.E. So that's out, otherwise I'd have to adjust things with films like Spider-man 2.1, Donner's Superman 2 cut. The film is only official if it is the one released to the theatre. aka the final cut. You don't get "do-overs" in school, sports, work, etc. So why do D.E.'s count? Besides all that, Daredevil still wasn't very good.

 

[Ryo Jin]

All about taste I guess.

 

[El Payaso]

Not even close ...

The 1st Team All-Superhero Movies:...

Oh, so it doesn't match your own personal list. That's quite a lame piece of evidence don't you think?

All in all, you had too high expectations coming into this movie. As did most of you fanboys. You built it up to much, the results or your opinion is a by product of too much anticipation.

Thanks Dr. Freud for telling me what I was thinking. You'll forgive me I excuse myself of paying your fees but your diagnosis was pure bullcrap based on nothing but some random personal thoughts glued together in a poor way.

That's why within the grand scheme of things, my thread labeling Spider-man 3 the GREATEST of th e bunch is restoring balance.

Oh yes, your typed word certainly is changing the world for the better.

*cuckoo cuckoo*

No, it's not your head it's my clock.

The movie isn't as great as I said (my opinion is partially sincere, and partly for discussion purposes), but the movie certainly isn't near as bad as you fellas make it out to be.

The movie is cetainly worse than you're making out to be.

So there, I restored balance.

*floats away to join the Guardians of the Universe*

 

[Darkest Knight]

Hmm, I'm not disagreeing that DD d.e. isn't a better film than the official's counterpart ... but it can't be counted in this list. It isn't official. And it still isn't the greatest of movies.

 

[chaseter]

I agree with DK in him saying the theme of forgiveness was great. It was central to every single character and I enjoyed that very much. But things were forced, the flow was off, and those characters that employ that forgiveness theme were not as developed as they should be. I hope we get a 3.1 that has a lot of scenes that should have been in the movie. It was an ok movie.

 

[Drago]

I did enjoy that Spidey 3 worked on the whole accountability/forgiveness theme, but I'm not going to say its the first comic book flick to do something like that- Spidey 2 handled duality fantastic (plus an artsy touch with the masking/unmasking stuff), Batman Returns was amazing with dichotomy, X-Men good with stereotypes, and so on.

Spidey 3 is good (better 2nd time around), but I think Spidey 2 is the best of the trilogy hands down. You can tell Sam had the most freedom and creative control with that one... Spidey 3 has too much footage cut and is a little too much of a studio product.

 

[Darkest Knight]

Oh, so it doesn't match your own personal list. That's quite a lame piece of evidence don't you think?

Basically the same can be said for you. You called it one of the worst movies without any follow up or proof. At least I gave something people could work with, or see where my opinion was coming from. You did none of that.

Because I mean when it call comes down to it, movies are subjective anyway. So this is all moot, isn't it?

Thanks Dr. Freud for telling me what I was thinking. You'll forgive me I excuse myself of paying your fees but your disgnosis was pure bullcrap based in nothing but some random personal thoughts glued together in a poor way.



Oh yes, your typed word certainly is changing the world for the better.

*cuckoo cuckoo*

No, it's not your head it's my clock.



The movie is cetainly worse than you're making out to be.

So there, I restored balance.

*floats away to join the Guardian of the Universe*

LMAO @ you taking this personally, and resorting to insults. Lame insults at that. Seriously, you don't have anything better in your arsenal?



Movies get you this upset? Maybe you should seek therapy.

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The movie is cetainly worse than you're making out to be.

Didn't I already say that? hehehe

 

[BrollySupersj]

i agree with Darkest Night, this movie was 1,000,000,00% fun.

 

[El Payaso]

Basically the same can be said for you. You called it one of the worst movies without any follow up or proof. At least I gave something people could work with, or see where my opinion was coming from. You did none of that.

I have done it in several threads.

And you did... oh, I see. Spidserman 3 was the only one having the balls to make something innovative like talking of Forgiveness.

Now Forgiveness is certainly something unseen in a superhero movie of course.

Is the pics set any more solid than your lists set?

LMAO @ you taking this personally, and resorting to insults. Lame insults at that. Seriously, you don't have anything better in your arsenal?

Like knowing how to use the Quote button?

Movies get you this upset? Maybe you should seek therapy.

t:

Spiderman 3 innovative side is really influencing you. Your joke was truly Peptobismol-worthy.

 

[Ryo Jin]

Why don't we just continue to make this guy mad so we'd have a reason to report him in the near future?

 

[Darkest Knight]

Why don't we just continue to make this guy mad so we'd have a reason to report him in the near future?

I really don't understand why the kid is so over emotional? haha Little buddy is like LITERALLY upset.

He's acting like I f()cked his little sister or something. We're just talking about a movie. This thread wasn't intended for this crap. How it devolved into this, I have no idea.

 

[animexcel]

$148 million weekend is another reason.

 

[Darkest Knight]

$148 million weekend is another reason.

Good point, haha. $375 world wide, correct? Absolutely ridiculous financial success.

 

[Ryo Jin]

Looks like we're getting a small taste of The Dark Knight with this feud here