Why the restart?

An Accidental Overdose of Gamma Radiation altered his body:cwink:

uh huh...even the TV show pilot gave more of an explanation by saying David Banner had an abnormality in his DNA, that the Gamma reacted with...just like Ang's movie.
 
because the first movie sucked these



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You know, this 08 Hulk movie should have had a 5 minute or so battle with Spiderman. I mean, they are trying to restart it after a disappointing 03 movie, adding a battle with Spiderman would have done wonders for this Hulk movie. I'm certain it would be approaching or even having surpassed the 200 million dollar mark now.

I just hope if they do a sequel, a battle with Spiderman occurs. This will help the Hulk movie franchise so much I think.
 
You know, this 08 Hulk movie should have had a 5 minute or so battle with Spiderman. I mean, they are trying to restart it after a disappointing 03 movie, adding a battle with Spiderman would have done wonders for this Hulk movie. I'm certain it would be approaching or even having surpassed the 200 million dollar mark now.

I just hope if they do a sequel, a battle with Spiderman occurs. This will help the Hulk movie franchise so much I think.

......ooohhhhhh K.

I would like to think they would put a Spider-man battle in every franchise to give it a boost. I might have actually gone to see Sex in the City........eh, who am I kidding. No I wouldn't have.
 
......ooohhhhhh K.

I would like to think they would put a Spider-man battle in every franchise to give it a boost. I might have actually gone to see Sex in the City........eh, who am I kidding. No I wouldn't have.
Uh, you entirely missed the point. This 08 movie is kinda considered a restart (unofficially). Comics often have hero vs hero. Spiderman is a box offcie draw hero. This Hulk needed that. Spiderman fit the bill, and the bills would have already been more than payed.
 
Uh, you entirely missed the point. This 08 movie is kinda considered a restart (unofficially). Comics often have hero vs hero. Spiderman is a box offcie draw hero. This Hulk needed that. Spiderman fit the bill, and the bills would have already been more than payed.

No, I get your point...I'm just kinda astonished that you were actually serious.
 
No, I get your point...I'm just kinda astonished that you were actually serious.
What is serious is that TIH isn't doing great so that Spidey fight doesn't sound too bad now does it?
 
well...that would certainly be cool to see.......if the spidey movie property WASN'T OWNED BY SONY!!! :(

man......I just wish Marvel could own the movie rights to ALL of their comic book properties.......
 
well...that would certainly be cool to see.......if the spidey movie property WASN'T OWNED BY SONY!!! :(

man......I just wish Marvel could own the movie rights to ALL of their comic book properties.......
Actually, I never thought of the Sony rights! :csad:
 
Actually, I never thought of the Sony rights! :csad:

I was avoiding pointing that out to you.
Plus, don't you think working in a 5 minute Spider-man appearance would kind of distract the audience from the rest of a Hulk movie?
 
i don´t think thats true, people knows HULK, but they don´t know about betty, Ross or even Banner

For what?

They don't need to know about Betty or Ross prior to seeing the movie. Why do they specifically need to be spoonfed that? That information can be shown during the actual movie. People only need to know who Hulk is; a big green monster/superhero. Banner is irrelevant to be known before, because that information can be shown during the movie.

During The Incredible Hulk, people discover that Betty is Banner's love. People discover that not only from the opening sequence, but from the moment Betty sees Bruce at the restaurant all the way until the end of the movie. People discover who General Ross is, what his intentions are, and his relationship with Betty all throughout the movie. People discover who Banner is because he is the main character that we follow throughout the whole movie.

The general audience is not stupid, and they aren't brain dead. The Incredible Hulk was general enough to not be considered a catering to comic fans only.

You know because you like the comics or the tv series;

Yes, but knowing who Ross or Betty was prior to seeing the movie does not mean anything. It was not necessary for me to know who they were to enjoy the movie. Of course, I enjoyed it more than others because I knew, but it was not a necessity. The critics, nor the majority of people out there complained about that with either one of the Hulk films.

outside the US comics aren´t that popular, and and if someone is under 25 probably they have never seen the tv show

Anybody who is anybody knows who the Hulk is just like they know who Batman, Superman, or Spider-Man is. People didn't need to see the TV show to know who Hulk is. He is embedded in pop culture. People know that there is some guy in the comics that turns into a big, green monster when he gets mad.
 
I was avoiding pointing that out to you.
Plus, don't you think working in a 5 minute Spider-man appearance would kind of distract the audience from the rest of a Hulk movie?
Well, you should have pointed that out (it totally slipped my mind as I was only thinking 'Marvel').

I don't think Spidey would steal the show if they made the Hulk look impressive in the fight. If Hulk did something really incredible in the strength department, this could catch the audiences attention for the rest of the movie and that attention on the Hulk.
 
uh huh...even the TV show pilot gave more of an explanation by saying David Banner had an abnormality in his DNA, that the Gamma reacted with...just like Ang's movie.

I don't understand your problem. You like comics but you can't deal with the fact that being bombarded with gamma radiation can turn someone into a super hero?
 
I don't understand your problem. You like comics but you can't deal with the fact that being bombarded with gamma radiation can turn someone into a super hero?

My question is, what went wrong? Banner was exposing himself to radiation, so there was no accident..that we are aware of. Which is what I hope the DVD shows us.
I like to think myself, and even audiences in general are more sophistocated than in the 60's when radiation is all it took. Even when I read the comics, it was after it had become established that Bruce's father had been exposed to radiation, which perhaps created some sort of anomoly that was passed to Bruce on the genetic level and thus allowed him to survive being hit with the Gamma. (sound familiar?)

Instead, they went with a " blink or you'll miss" re-origin which in my eyes didn't serve the story in any way, other than allowing it to jump to the action...but ya know what? If it would have been a sequel jumping to the action would not have been a problem anyway, right? Plus we would have an explanation already built in why Banner's personality fades when Hulk comes out (something that doesn't happen with Blonsky). We also would have carried over the "angrier he gets, the stronger he gets", which wasn't expressed in this movie, but the '03 film made very clear also.

Look, I like the movie. I even think it is a less flawed Hulk film than Ang's. Is it more engaging? Probably not. Two completely different approaches with completely different strengths and weaknesses. I'm just saying I think a better approach would have been if they could be considered linked because it would have molded a story with more resonance, and given greater strength to the more action driven TIH. It would have brought the best of both worlds together.

Like I said, I liked it. The title of this thread was "Why restart?" and I was only discussing what kept the movie from kicking up another level for me. I've explained all of this so many times, I know I sound like a broken record, so I promise I won't do it again.
 
cameo: if anyone, it should have been wolverine (he did get his first appearance vs. the hulk)

but as for the topic: I pretty much agree with CO2 here. It's not a sequel, but it can be. Really my biggest critique, is that the movie should not have outright denied the possibility of it being a sequel, while simultaneously not definitively linking the two movies.

it's clear to me, that with a little reworking of the opening montage (wherein the story is extremely vague, and only someone schooled in Hulk could definitively understand what they were seeing) and the conversation between Blonsky and Ross. This is honestly less that 50 seconds of the movie, and I feel is the biggest failure.

in the end, I think they should have tried to blur the lines between sequel and reboot to the point where neither a Hulk fan, or person who has never seen anything about the Hulk, could tell which it is. They didn't do this enough IMO.
 
Between the shots at the beginning of the movie, and the explanation that Ross gave to Blonsky, there really shouldn't be any questions.

Banner was working on what he believed to be radiation resistance, but something went wrong (or right) and it turned into a living weapon, which the Army now wants to use and reproduce. During the accident, he changed into the hulk, and Betty got hurt. Since then, he's been living on the run.

What more do you need?

The movie gives enough queues for anyone who's paying attention to watch it with no problems as to what happened to banner.

I hate to say this, but you're wrong here IMO. This is all coming from a comic fan who knows the hulk. Man, when SR came out, there were zillions of people who didn't even know superman was an alien. Hulk is big, but no where near as big as Superman, so I think it is a very safe assumption to say that there are A LOT of people out there who don't know the Hulk (from the 03 movie, or otherwise). There was no where near enough explanation for a person who had never encountered the property. Yes, the narrative still works, but it is far from a complete story.
 
You know, this 08 Hulk movie should have had a 5 minute or so battle with Spiderman. I mean, they are trying to restart it after a disappointing 03 movie, adding a battle with Spiderman would have done wonders for this Hulk movie. I'm certain it would be approaching or even having surpassed the 200 million dollar mark now.

I just hope if they do a sequel, a battle with Spiderman occurs. This will help the Hulk movie franchise so much I think.
heh. during the fight in New York, it crossed my mind.
i actually took it a step further and envisioned Hulk, Spidey, AND Iron Man together fighting in a 3 way.
 
heh. during the fight in New York, it crossed my mind.
i actually took it a step further and envisioned Hulk, Spidey, AND Iron Man together fighting in a 3 way.

Similar to the CG animated short Marvel produced as a tie in?
 

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