The Main Titles CGI Sequence: Why It's So Important

[Retroman]

Cool.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Its ok Retro, the article is relevant to both of the threads that it is in

Matt, thanks for releasing that tidbit. John getting a proper chance to really publish the FF's signature theme is very important to me.

 

[MattC]

Matt, thanks for releasing that tidbit. John getting a proper chance to really publish the FF's signature theme is very important to me.

It is to me too, which is why I wanted to get his thoughts on it out into the public domain. We really need to try and support him if he faces any resistance from the studio regarding opening titles. They have to understand just how important they are, and how much they hype the majority of people up for the movie. This will especially be needed because it is going to be a lot of all out action, so you need to have a big opening to really get the adrenaline pumping.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Sooo....

Have any of you seen the opening sequence they attached to the Extended Edition of Fantastic Four? I believe it's the first FOX comic book movie to have a full opening credit listing (meaning all of the actors, score composer, director, etc., were named instead of just the name of the studio and the film title), and in my opinion it was fricking BRILLIANT. I have no clue why the hell Fox would chop it off and replace it with that wackness we got in the 2005 theatrical release.

I could be mistaken, the opening sequence reminded me of Casino Royale's which was designed by Framework Studios. As some of you know Framework is doing FF2's main titles.

So now that we know what a Fantastic Four opening sequence can look/sound like with John Ottman's theme, what did you think of it? And would you like to see a full-length credit sequence for FF2, or something brief and to the point like X3?

 

[coreymb16]

Yeah, can you put the FF Extended Opening Title Sequence on YouTube?

 

[fantastic fifth]

I'm all for a full length opening as long as it doesn't take away from the already published run time. Last time, I was really confused at the abruptness of the opening.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Sooo....

Have any of you seen the opening sequence they attached to the Extended Edition of Fantastic Four? I believe it's the first FOX comic book movie to have a full opening credit listing (meaning all of the actors, score composer, director, etc., were named instead of just the name of the studio and the film title), and in my opinion it was fricking BRILLIANT. I have no clue why the hell Fox would chop it off and replace it with that wackness we got in the 2005 theatrical release.

I could be mistaken, the opening sequence reminded me of Casino Royale's which was designed by Framework Studios. As some of you know Framework is doing FF2's main titles.

So now that we know what a Fantastic Four opening sequence can look/sound like with John Ottman's theme, what did you think of it? And would you like to see a full-length credit sequence for FF2, or something brief and to the point like X3?

Daredevil had full credits, both the theatrical and DC. The beginning part in brail, then going up the church, and then in the church when DD is lying wounded.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Daredevil had full credits, both the theatrical and DC. The beginning part in brail, then going up the church, and then in the church when DD is lying wounded.

Thanks for the correction.

 

[Joe Rockhead]

For a movie series, an opening sequence that makes a statement is a must. It should be used to link the movies together.

It doesn't have to be long, but it should have music and imagery with impact - especially for an action adventure type movie.

 

[Iron Maiden]

I just saw that Cal, and I have no clue why they dropped it. If it was just to save a precious 90 seconds off the running time, that is just plain silly. Maybe it was because it included a brief still of Victor's press conference??

 

[DieSmiling]

Traditionally it's nice to have, but not neccessary. I didn't miss it in Batman Begins. It does tend to cause movies to be lacking that strong theme music though, which did happen in Begins as well.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The FF: EE opening credits were cool. I think they should have put them in the movie itself.

I hope the credits in this one are even better, though!

 

[Sentinel X]

1). To myself as a viewer, not very important, I came to see the movie, not the opening titles.
2). I remember a short comic book montage....didn't really think much about it at all...honestly I don't remember any of the opening credits of any of the movies you mentioned except Superman...
3). I wouldn't make it a CGI, comicbook or otherwise introduction....I would make it a montage of what they've been doing over the past 2 years including, slittle video, magazine and newspaper articles....
4). I would rather Fox go with my #3....

All, In My Humble Opinion....

Ooh, I love that idea. A lot of creativity could go into this...It'd be cool if they mention cameo villains while the FF fought other crimes...like probably a mention of the puppet master, moleman, the skrulls etc.
I could see it, the headline of the newspaper article "The Fantastic four pull the strings on the puppet master" and below have a few of cast/crew credits

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I just hope with the 92 minute running time that what John Ottman was told (see Matt's post on Page 2) won't be nixed yet again.

 

[Kelly]

I just hope with the 92 minute running time that what John Ottman was told (see Matt's post on Page 2) won't be nixed yet again.

But if it means that the movie itself is shortened even more because of it.........nix that sucker.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

No...

 

[coreymb16]

But if it means that the movie itself is shortened even more because of it.........nix that sucker.

I think in the 92 min running time don't include the opening and end credits.

 

[Kelly]

No...

YES.....if the scene between Sue and Reed is nixed and we get a damn full whatever at the beginning......



I'm coming for you.....

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

YES.....if the scene between Sue and Reed is nixed and we get a damn full whatever at the beginning......



I'm coming for you.....

"Give it your best shot."

I love Kentucky Fried Tweety.

 

[Kelly]

"Give it your best shot."

I love Kentucky Fried Tweety.

PM......

 

[invisibeav]

Sooo....

Have any of you seen the opening sequence they attached to the Extended Edition of Fantastic Four? I believe it's the first FOX comic book movie to have a full opening credit listing (meaning all of the actors, score composer, director, etc., were named instead of just the name of the studio and the film title), and in my opinion it was fricking BRILLIANT. I have no clue why the hell Fox would chop it off and replace it with that wackness we got in the 2005 theatrical release.

I could be mistaken, the opening sequence reminded me of Casino Royale's which was designed by Framework Studios. As some of you know Framework is doing FF2's main titles.

So now that we know what a Fantastic Four opening sequence can look/sound like with John Ottman's theme, what did you think of it? And would you like to see a full-length credit sequence for FF2, or something brief and to the point like X3?

Yes, I just watched it today and was very impressed by both its design and the execution. The title sequence works very well with Ottman's title theme and should have been kept in the movie, in my opinion. I have no idea why it was tossed. The only reason that I can think of is that it's a bit reminiscent of the titles for Spider-man 2, in the combination of animated sequences and film stills (even though in SM2 those are illustrated by Alex Ross). A bit off-topic, but my sentimental favorite shot is actually the one of the fated rocket going off into space.

So having seen the added titles for FF1, I would definitely love to see a full title sequence for FF2. I haven't gotten my hands on the album for the score yet (couldn't find it in stores), but I can't wait to hear what the theme for this film is.

 

[Retroman]

Sooo....

Have any of you seen the opening sequence they attached to the Extended Edition of Fantastic Four? I believe it's the first FOX comic book movie to have a full opening credit listing (meaning all of the actors, score composer, director, etc., were named instead of just the name of the studio and the film title), and in my opinion it was fricking BRILLIANT. I have no clue why the hell Fox would chop it off and replace it with that wackness we got in the 2005 theatrical release.

I could be mistaken, the opening sequence reminded me of Casino Royale's which was designed by Framework Studios. As some of you know Framework is doing FF2's main titles.

So now that we know what a Fantastic Four opening sequence can look/sound like with John Ottman's theme, what did you think of it? And would you like to see a full-length credit sequence for FF2, or something brief and to the point like X3?

The dvd hasn't been released here yet so i haven't been able to check it out myself.Everyone who's seen it seems very impressed so yes i'd love FF2 to have a full fledged opening title sequence if the movie was longer than 92 mins. But seeing that that is sadly not the case something like X3 would be fine.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

The Opening Titles Sequence:
Why It's So Important
An Essay By Lightning Strykez

“First impressions are key in real estate as buyers often make up their minds about a home within the first few minutes of entering the front door.”--Dianne Usher​

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The above quote underscores the huge role that presentation plays in making any kind of commercial sale. Whether it's selling a car, home, clothing, music or politics, first impressions make an indelible impact on would-be buyers. Indeed, it influences when or if they spend their hard-earned cash.

In a similar fashion, the opening titles for a motion picture is extremely important. Why? Because it's the film's figurative giftwrapping and it sets the momentum for audiences. In fact, its entire purpose is to effectively whet the appetite of moviegoers (the "consumers" in this case) for what is about to follow. The range of creativity employed in this area is virtually limitless, and with the recent bumper crop of comic book films, there's been a wide variety of approaches to opening credits. But have you noticed that in recent years studios have adopted different styles for their main titles?

For example, Sony's Spider-Man series has opted to display many cinematic details, including the staff, director, composer, etc against a creative "webbed" image montage. Meanwhile, Warner Bros. 2006 Superman Returns release boasted one of the most impressive CGI intros I've ever seen--it took you on a tour of the galaxy's heavenly bodies. Fox's CBM's have chosen for a more direct "get-right-into-it" approach. For example, the X-Men series featured brief, but elaborate CGI sequences featuring "genetic" themes. All of the above were extremely effective because they audiences primed "as soon as they entered the front door." And the themes were closely identified with the film's subject matter (Spider-Man=webbed montage, X-Men=mutant genes, Superman Returns=Kal-El's journey to earth, etc., etc.).

Sadly, 2005's Fantastic Four opening titles was somewhat underwhelming--not only for a FOX film, but for a CBM too. It didn't really have a personality or flair. Now, perhaps I'm spoiled...but I've come to expect a certain level of excellence from these properties now, and FF1's intro was bland to me...kinda just there. It was way too brief...and looked rather simple in comparison to other CBMs. Composer John Ottman had designed a brilliant introductory score, but last minute changes chopped it completely. In my opinion, this seriously harmed the film because to this day people cannot remember what Fantastic Four's theme is. Perhaps if it had been impressively presented from the beginning of the film, it would have resonated with audiences as it was reiterated later in the movie.

Now, I realize that Tim Story had a LOT to contend with on the first film, and cramped timing was one of them. That said, I have faith he will give us something better this go 'round. So what can be done? Will FF2's opening titles be something spectacular? Will they actually adopt a personality for the film by sewing something elaborate into the opening titles? Again, the possibilities are endless. True, by definition, the Fantastic Four really are mutants. Cosmically-powered--yes, but mutants nonetheless. Now surely going after another "genetically"-themed CGI sequence would be redundant to audiences. But certainly there has to be another concept out there that--when melded with John Ottman's signature theme--can truly give FF2's opening a dramatic kick-off.

Could it start off with a spoken soliloquy by the Watcher or Galactus? Will it embrace the key elements of creation--water, fire, earth and wind? Could it give us a flashback of character events that have transpired in the two years that have passed since the first film? What do you think?

QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION:

1.) Are creative CBM titles important to you as a fan?

2.) If you can recall, what impression did the 2005 film's opening sequence have on you in theaters?

3.) If you were designing FF2's CGI intro, what conceptual ideas would you implement?

4.) Do you think FOX should give FF2 full length opening credits (a la the Spider-Man, and Superman Returns franchises)?​

That's not an essay! That's a few paragraphs! get back to work, man!

Seriously, good stuff, but your initial analogy is off. A movie is not trying to sell itself with it's opening titles, as the audience has already paid to see the movie (either in cinemas or on DVD).

 

[coreymb16]

Off Topic: Actually, that is a paragraph, paragraphs includes an introduction paragraph,two-three body paragraphs, and a concluding paragraph.

 

[Rac]

1.) Are creative CBM titles important to you as a fan?

Umm, not really as a fan, but I like cool animated/CGI'd titles.

2.) If you can recall, what impression did the 2005 film's opening sequence have on you in theaters?

It didn't have any opening titles...? So, it was lame.

3.) If you were designing FF2's CGI intro, what conceptual ideas would you implement?

Dunno. Space and shait.

4.) Do you think FOX should give FF2 full length opening credits (a la the Spider-Man, and Superman Returns franchises)?

Yeah, why not.