The Avengers Will the Captain pick up the Hammer?

[Hypestyle]

... I wonder will there be a sequence at the climax of the film where Thor is disabled or otherwise subdued, and the hammer is far away. Perhaps the closest person to it is Captain America. But of course, only the worthy can use Mjolnir, and it's guarded by a group of Hydra soldiers/orcs/aliens/whatever.. Hmm, this could be a cool scene, if handled the right way..

 

[BigThor]

I sure hope not, let everyone use their own weapons and if absolutely has to happen I prefer they save that for one of the sequels.

Thor only has one film, let them atleast finish have three films under his belt (Thor, The Avengers, and Thor 2) before Cap picks up his hammer. In my opinion, it would also make the carry more weight then because it's just far too soon right now.

 

[Gamma Burst]

No, and i don't think he should.

 

[Xeno]

I would love to see Captain America pick up Mjolnir, beat the ever lovin' crap out of some Badoon/Frost Giants/Wundagoreans with it, then casually hand it back to Thor, not realizing how stunned the Asgardian was. It would be a great way of showing Thor gaining a better appreciation of Cap's worthiness to lead the Avengers, as well as reminding the audience of Dr. Erskine's declaration that Steve should be "a good man."

 

[Gamma Burst]

Cap shouldn't be worthy of Mjolnir. When he lifted it in comics, he didn't get the power of Thor; and he only managed to do that in times of great need.

 

[Herolee10]

I've said it before that personally, I don't think that Steve needs to prove himself on being worthy by having to lift up Thor's hammer, let alone needing to do that in order to gain Thor's respect.


It's not that I'm a bias Thor fan or anything (despite the fact that I have Thor in as my avi.lol). I just think that there's already enough established to show that Steve is a great guy, perhaps the most authentic hero in the entire current roaster in terms of a Earth Based hero.

If he's to be chosen as leader and not self appointed by the rest of his teammates, especially when you consider on how independent and prideful most of these guys are, that should say more than enough that he's someone that has earned Thor's respect.

Heck, his personality alone that was shown in his own film showed that he'd be the type of person worthy of lifting the hammer if the situation ever presented itself.

But to actually have it happen on screen just for the sake of it would be like shoving the message down our throats.

 

[Gamma Burst]

I've said it before that personally, I don't think that Steve needs to prove himself on being worthy by having to lift up Thor's hammer, let alone needing to do that in order to gain Thor's respect.


It's not that I'm a bias Thor fan or anything (despite the fact that I have Thor in as my avi.lol). I just think that there's already enough established to show that Steve is a great guy, perhaps the most authentic hero in the entire current roaster in terms of a Earth Based hero.

If he's to be chosen as leader and not self appointed by the rest of his teammates, especially when you consider on how independent and prideful most of these guys are, that should say more than enough that he's someone that has earned Thor's respect.

Heck, his personality alone that was shown in his own film showed that he'd be the type of person worthy of lifting the hammer if the situation ever presented itself.

But to actually have it happen on screen just for the sake of it would be like shoving the message down our throats.

Agreed. The problem with this whole logic of Cap being worthy of Mjolnir because he's a 'good guy' and leader is that the same argument can be used for a huge number of marvel heroes: there are characters who are as brave, noble, good leaders, etc. Yet, they're not worthy of having its power.

 

[BigThor]

I've said it before that personally, I don't think that Steve needs to prove himself on being worthy by having to lift up Thor's hammer, let alone needing to do that in order to gain Thor's respect.


It's not that I'm a bias Thor fan or anything (despite the fact that I have Thor in as my avi.lol). I just think that there's already enough established to show that Steve is a great guy, perhaps the most authentic hero in the entire current roaster in terms of a Earth Based hero.

If he's to be chosen as leader and not self appointed by the rest of his teammates, especially when you consider on how independent and prideful most of these guys are, that should say more than enough that he's someone that has earned Thor's respect.

Heck, his personality alone that was shown in his own film showed that he'd be the type of person worthy of lifting the hammer if the situation ever presented itself.

But to actually have it happen on screen just for the sake of it would be like shoving the message down our throats.

Bingo t:

 

[Smashlilman]

I'd love to see Cap pick up and/or moves Thor's hammer. It should be during a causal moment in the film. After they established that no one who isn't worthy can lift Mjölnir. Like if there on the Helicarrier getting ready they're about to do a mission and Cap grabs Thor's hammer and tosses it to him. They could use a seen like that to causally show Thor that Cap is worthy enough to be consider an equal.

I don't want to see cap running around with Mjölnir wielding his powers.

 

[BigThor]

Like I've said before it's far too early, if it just has to happen then I say wait until Avengers 2 or 3.

 

[Xeno]

Cap shouldn't be worthy of Mjolnir. When he lifted it in comics, he didn't get the power of Thor; and he only managed to do that in times of great need.

Why shouldn't Captain America be worthy to wield Mjolnir? It's actually canon that he is worthy. In that scene he wasn't trying to use the other powers of the hammer, nor did he strike it on the ground as Thor had to in order to transform at that time.


Also, if a space goat, a random construction worker and a freaking frog are considered worthy of wielding the hammer and/or the power of Thor, Captain America definitely qualifies.

 

[Gamma Burst]

Why shouldn't Captain America be worthy to wield Mjolnir? It's actually canon that he is worthy. In that scene he wasn't trying to use the other powers of the hammer, nor did he strike it on the ground as Thor had to in order to transform at that time.

Also, if a space goat, a random construction worker and a freaking frog are considered worthy of wielding the hammer and/or the power of Thor, Captain America definitely qualifies.



Nope. First, you don't have to strike the hammer to become Thor.
Second, he was able to 'lift' the hammer twice, the second of them in Fear Itself, when Thor sent the hammer to him. And he didn't get Thor's power. The enchantment is clear: if you' hold it and you're worthy, you'll get the power.

Again, no one can explain what makes a person worthy or not. The fact is that BRB and Eric Masterson qualify (and the frog is Thor). And, by your logic, guys like Cyclops, Spider-Man, Ben Grimm, *insert noble hero name here* should be worthy; which means that a lot of people can do that. That's simply not the case.

 

[Smashlilman]

Also, if a space goat, a random construction worker and a freaking frog are considered worthy of wielding the hammer and/or the power of Thor, Captain America definitely qualifies.



Nope. First, you don't have to strike the hammer to become Thor.
Second, he was able to 'lift' the hammer twice, the second of them in Fear Itself, when Thor sent the hammer to him. And he didn't get Thor's power. The enchantment is clear: if you' hold it and you're worthy, you'll get the power.

Again, no one can explain what makes a person worthy or not. The fact is that BRB and Eric Masterson qualify (and the frog is Thor). And, by your logic, guys like Cyclops, Spider-Man, Ben Grimm, *insert noble hero name here* should be worthy; which means that a lot of people can do that. That's simply not the case.

The enchantment was placed apron Thor's hammer was a way for Odin to force Thor to become more like him. He was trying to force Thor to adopt some behavioral qualities that would make him worthy to replace him should anything happens when he was in the Odin sleep.

The quality are a Brave, Fearless, Selfless warrior with an impeccable senses of Morality that places the lives of others before his on. Cyclops, Spider-Man, Ben Grimm aren't all Selfless or Fearless. They all have there own internal shortcomings.

Which is why this bad ass was able to lift it. ALL HAIL BETA RAY!!!!!!

 

[BigThor]

Why shouldn't Captain America be worthy to wield Mjolnir? It's actually canon that he is worthy. In that scene he wasn't trying to use the other powers of the hammer, nor did he strike it on the ground as Thor had to in order to transform at that time.

Isn't Cap using his shield good enough?

Why does he have to pick up Mjolnir just for Thor to respect him, like Odinson said earlier Cap's actions and leadership abilities are enough to gain Thor's respect.

 

[Gamma Burst]

The enchantment was placed apron Thor's hammer was a way for Odin to force Thor to become more like him. He was trying to force Thor to adopt some behavioral qualities that would make him worthy to replace him should anything happens when he was in the Odin sleep.

The quality are a Brave, Fearless, Selfless warrior with an impeccable senses of Morality that places the lives of others before his on. Cyclops, Spider-Man, Ben Grimm aren't all Selfless or Fearless. They all have there own internal shortcomings.

Which is why this bad ass was able to lift it. ALL HAIL BETA RAY!!!!!!

I agree that some of these qualities may qualify one as being worthy, but there's nothing set in stone about the enchantment, and it's always been pretty vague (probably always be, for the better) about that.
Wow, we might have read different comics... Spide-Man, not fearless and selfless? A guy whose motto is '''with great power comes great responsability'', who sacrifice himself every day to save people and who, far from being invulnerable, faces much more powerful foes for most of the time...
If he isn't, then neither is Cap.

 

[BigThor]

It seems like people want everything in the film to revolve around Cap, much of the film is going to be from his perspective and he's going to be the leader that should be enough.

Basically what I'm saying is "yes" Cap is the true leader of the Avengers, but it doesn't have to be as forced as some of you want it to be.

 

[Iron-Fan]

I think Cap will earn Thor's respect by going into battle alone. I wouldn't be surprised if the team breaks up because of a clash of egos.
Steve and Tony don't get along, Tony eventually leaves. Hulk fights Thor, Thor leaves, Banner is contained. So, in the end, only Cap is present during Loki's attack. He does everything he can, but is overwhelmed and on the point of defeat. Thor sees what's going on and decides to give Cap a hand. Soon Iron Man swoops in and Fury deploys Hawkeye and Widow. We cut to Banner, still contained in the Helicarrier. He and the Hulk have a 1-on-1 and Hulk convinces Banner to let him out. Banner transforms, the Hulk breaks out out the Helicarrier and rages into battle. Cap: "Avengers, assemble!"

 

[captainrogers]

Cap doesn't have to lift the hammer in this film.
But WE, as comic book fans know he has the fortitude, ability, fearlessness, noblity and intensity to be the "leader" of the team and gain the respect of his mates.
I can understand, tho, the temptation to have a scene like that in the film tho.
The general audience sometimes does need visual cues to help solidify a point. And the enchantment on Mjolnir is just an easy way that any causual audience member who has seen Thor, or during the course of the Avengers, may have seen others try and fail to lift the hammer, to show Cap's worthiness to lead.
Again, for my part, I don't need to see this in this film.
I know. Maybe it'll be in there for the sake of an easier visual cue.
As for Cap just not being worthy to lift the hammer at all, I wholeheartedly DISAGREE.
he's lifted the thing numerous times. He's held it AFTER major battles. (When the 'time of great need' was past)
Who's to say, he did not gain the power of Thor? Just because a couple of disks on his chest, cape and large winged Viking helmet didn't appear on him?
Cap held the hammer rather briefly the first time, but exhibited Thor like strength when he swatted away a couple of baddies with it.
In a recent What If (age of apocalypse), which I know events are debatable in these, he was using the Hammer quite proficiently.
Ditto Fear itself Thor did not toss cap the hammer. The serpent swatted it aside. It fell like a missle and crashed near Cap.
Sin, who was Asgardian powered, was most definitely fighting an empowered Cap. Lightning was flying and the hammer was being thrown and returning to him.

 

[Micromind]

Iron man with Thor's hammer.

 

[Micromind]

Not really Avengers related, but -

Wonder Woman is the only woman to lift Mjolnir.

 

[lixdexia]

I really hope cap doesn't lift thor's hammer in this movie

 

[cherokeesam]

Iron man with Thor's hammer.

"Thor's croquet mallet"....I literally laughed my ass off at that one. (...and I don't know how to put it back on.....)

Count me as one of those who doesn't want to see Steve lift Mjolnir, either. The only purpose of the scene would be a nudge-nudge to fanboys; it would be confusing and detrimental to general audiences....especially little boys who'd feel like Thor got slighted big time if his signature weapon can be used by someone else. Keep it simple....Cap has the shield; Thor has the hammer.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I can see both sides here...

In terms of respecting the relationships of the characters, I'd say the acceptance of Cap as leader should be more about who he is - not about whether he fulfills the criteria of some magic curse on Thor's hammer.

But on the other hand, I can see it being this really cool moment, especially if Cap has no idea that no one should be able to pick it up, and it's Thor who has to tell him why it's a big deal that he can.

So I'll be happy either way

 

[Oruku Saki]

I, personally think it's ridiculous that anybody has ever lifted or used Thor's hammer but himself or another asgardian, like Odin or Heimdall. That being said I do not believe anyone will wield Thor's hammer in any of the movies.

 

[Gamma Burst]

I, personally think it's ridiculous that anybody has ever lifted or used Thor's hammer but himself or another asgardian, like Odin or Heimdall. That being said I do not believe anyone will wield Thor's hammer in any of the movies.

That's how I feel about it too.