Wizard Showdown Part II: Gandalf Vs Dumbledore

Which wizard would win in an all out battle to the death?

  • Gandalf would easily own Dumbledore.

  • Gandalf would win the battle, but not by much.

  • Both Wizards are perfectly matched. The battle would end in a tie.

  • Dumbledore would easily own Gandalf.

  • Dumbledore would win the battle, but not by much.


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Gandalf may have been a Maia, but he didn't have access to those powers. He was restricted to his wizard magic. Even in some of the darkest days of Middle Earth he couldn't come up with more than a few minor parlor tricks.
 
I've heard that argument before, long before I even knew about the Hype. How Gandalf is "only a fourth level mage" and such loads. Here's my primary counter argument, which works especially here on the Hype, what with it being a primarily superhero based site and all.

Among comic book fans, a common debate is the Batman vs. Superman debate. There are many good arguments for both sides, and honestly, there is no real clear cut winner in most cases. But it's hard to find a fan who'll say that Batman has no chance at all against Superman, and those who usually do focus more on the power levels of the two and less on the characters themselves. This is a common mistake, and one that seems be made here.

Gandalf's wisdom, like Batman's intelligence and resourcefulness, is as key to the battle as his skill in magic, which despite common belief is at quite a high level. Sure, I'll be the first to admit that I know next to squat about Dumbledore, though I don't doubt his power. My argument here is that Gandalf is not the push over many may think he is.

With but a simple light spell he disabled the ranks of a ten thousands strong army of orcs, he fought the Balrog to the death, killing the demon before he himself died. As noted above, Gandalf is also a holder of one of the rings of power, a gift bestowed upon a few individuals of great power. Then of course there's the fact that on Middle-Earth, wizards are an entirely different race than humanity, and Gandalf is something of a celestial being, akin to an archangel or the like.

My main point here is this; don't doubt power because it's expressed subtly.

Are you implying that Dumbledore isn't as wise or as intelligent as Gandalf? Because that would be a very wrong thing to say.

If we're going with defeats and battles and what each wizard has done, we must list all of Dumbledore's feats as well, which far surpass those of Gandalf. sure, Gandalf did great things, even though his power level was not exactly incredible, but Dumbledore did much more things that Gandalf ever did, and Gandalf lived for thousands of years. When it comes to magic, it is very clear that Dumbledore has not only more experience, but more spells to rely upon and a lot more magic to battle with.

And no, the polls don't the truth because many of the people who voted probably never even read any of the books featuring this characters, they probably just vote on what is cooler or they favorite.
 
I was watching Order of the Phoenix yesterday....and Dumbledore is not nearly as good as he is in the books. In the second half Gambon did a good job, but in the first half he really came across as mean and grumpy.
 
Are you implying that Dumbledore isn't as wise or as intelligent as Gandalf? Because that would be a very wrong thing to say.

If we're going with defeats and battles and what each wizard has done, we must list all of Dumbledore's feats as well, which far surpass those of Gandalf. sure, Gandalf did great things, even though his power level was not exactly incredible, but Dumbledore did much more things that Gandalf ever did, and Gandalf lived for thousands of years. When it comes to magic, it is very clear that Dumbledore has not only more experience, but more spells to rely upon and a lot more magic to battle with.

And no, the polls don't the truth because many of the people who voted probably never even read any of the books featuring this characters, they probably just vote on what is cooler or they favorite.

True, I voted Gandalf because I like him more, and I'll never touch a Potter anything. But seriously, you had to know Gandalf was going to win. Regardless of what many (wrongly) assume about Gandalf's magic, the character has existed for decades and has been so influential that he's considered the iconic wizard.

Longevity beats the flash-in-the-pan new guy all the time, maybe not right away, but in ten, twenty years? The Potter fad has passed, and I'd be surprised if it'll be able to last by grabbing up a cult following the way Tolkien's works have.
 
I like them both, but I would have to go with Gandalf on this one.
 
No, I have age limits...and I wouldn't touch a guy with a beard as unsanitary as theirs:oldrazz:
 
Forgot you were straight....in that case, you can just have Mcgonagall

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She's all woman. You know you'd tap it.
 
I was watching Order of the Phoenix yesterday....and Dumbledore is not nearly as good as he is in the books. In the second half Gambon did a good job, but in the first half he really came across as mean and grumpy.

Movie Dumbledore is crap compared to Book Dumbledore. Especially Gambon's version. The first Dumbledore was far more alike the book version.:csad:
 
I adore Dumbledore but honestly, Gandalf would win without much effort.
 
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