Wolverine.....what a joke!

[Nitehawk013]

Man my spelling is terrible today.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's not my opinion that Captain America is faster or more agile. It's just logical. Captain America is at the human maximum of speed and agility, Wolverine's just a guy in really good shape. Plus he's got his adamantium weighing him down. You're telling me a guy who's not super-strong can move faster with a body full of metal than a guy at the peak level of human agility and speed? That just doesn't make any sense, unless Wolverine's got more physical powers than what he's always been listed as having.

Like I said, Wolverine fights like a brawler more often than not. He has some vestiges of his training left over in the form of his combat instincts, but if you read through a bunch of his appearances he is usually shown getting his ass kicked while he relies on his healing factor to compensate. The instance I mentioned about Hellfire Club goons was from the Dark Phoenix Saga. Wolverine gets his ass kicked by one of the Hellfire Club's members, then gets up and stalks through the Hellfire Club's mansion trying to get back to the rest of the X-Men. He has trouble against 3 or 4 Hellfire goons at a time. Captain America, meanwhile, can take on the likes of Iron Man and the Wrecking Crew all by himself.

Captain America has beaten Taskmaster relatively easily, and Taskmaster is generally considered one of the best fighters in the Marvel universe. He has a photographic memory that allows him to record and imitate anyone's moves, including superhumans' like Spider-Man's. He uses Cap's moves more often than any other person's for a reason. And yet still Cap has beaten him. Captain America is pretty much the best fighter in the Marvel universe. He's stood up to superhumans and beaten them time and time again using nothing but his fighting prowess. 15 to 20 years is enough time to master martial arts in comic books, regardless of what your friends say. Batman did it in DC and Cap's done it in Marvel.

Captain America IS a great fighter, but limiting him to normal villains and normal mutants is just complete nonsense. He has shown IN THE COMICS over and over and over again that he can stand up to superhumans and mutants with much more power than Wolverine.

 

[X]

The Taslmaster has whupped Cap's ass before as well. His first appearance anyway.

 

[DBM]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Captain America is pretty much the best fighter in the Marvel universe. He's stood up to superhumans and beaten them time and time again using nothing but his fighting prowess.

Just last Avengers issue, Cap kicked John Walker's ass. Walker was trained to be Caps replacement (by Taskmaster even) and has Class 10 strength and Cap took him down easy.

Not necessarily relevant but I thought it was fun nontheless.

 

[LORD_GALVATRON]

Originally posted by ComicMaster
Can someone tell me why this losers so popular? He's a short little runt, he throws temper tantrums, his second hand smoke is killing the other X-Men, he can barely form a complete sentence, bub, and maybe worst of all, he is a filthy little mutant, like a great number of posters who have bad mouthed me here.

Gee your post gives the impression that you aren'tr any smarter than a used tampon, and you wonder why you get attacked?

Edit: Didn't realize he was banned

 

[Nitehawk013]

I don't care what you say Corpulent. I am gonna argue with you until I put you over 14000 posts. LOL.
I still don't buy your argument though. I just don't much want to continue it here anymore. It was fun for a while and you are quite good at holding your side of the debate. You know a lot of stuff too. I commend you sir.
I only wrote in the first place b/c people trash Wolverine like he is a real person trying to hog the spotlight or something. he is a character. It's the writers fault he is everywhere. He makes money. Don't trash a really good character just b/c you see him in a lot of books. The guy is the classic tortured soul, anti hero, fighting the inner demons and still having a high code of honor.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I have no qualms against Wolverine. You're right, he is an interesting character. I'll agree to disagree on this one subject, though (even though you're still wrong ).

 

[the defenders]

Wow! I Agree!

 

[Horhey]

Can someone tell me why this losers so popular? He's a short little runt, he throws temper tantrums, his second hand smoke is killing the other X-Men, he can barely form a complete sentence, bub, and maybe worst of all, he is a filthy little mutant, like a great number of posters who have bad mouthed me here.

Your only making a jerk out of yourself. Stop digging.

 

[CombatRock319]

im not a huge wolverine fan but dude you arent making friends and quick. hes farm from a loser...

...meh...

 

[Captain Useless]

OT, but why is Wolverine constantly looking much taller than 5'3?
He looks at least 5'10 in almost all appearances.

 

[Anubis]

Not this *****e bag again

 

[Xofenroht]

OT, but why is Wolverine constantly looking much taller than 5'3?
He looks at least 5'10 in almost all appearances.

So. The ****. What?

If I've ever seen a dead horse kicked an infinite amount of times it's this one.

There are worse things going on in the Marvel titles than these trivial issues with Wolverine.

 

[ang_hulk]

he is one of those characters that seemed to be a hit from the start,all he was was a guy in a hookey looking costume with claws,nothing really exciting,no energy blasts,no real cool shots of his powers and yet he took off like crazy.I dont think him not knowing were he comes from interests anyone anymore but the things he has done always seem to get people talking and hes never to far from his rageful self even when hes completely relaxed.Him taking the time to train shadow cat and not holding back shows he isnt heartless and really knows his stuff.His healing factors become somehwat of a nosense latly with him surviving anything but I dont think he relies on it during battle,infact even when he had bone claws and a bare skeleton he went full force into each battle.its what he is,a fighter and a killer but hes really good at doi9ng that and living the ret of his life as a teacher or whatever hes up to.He doesnt bend for people even when he loves them and thats not really somthing alot of the bad boys of marvel can say,hell even deadpool has held back for a girl. Im not saying he doesnt take it easy on epople but its only when it would compromise somthing. I really like him as a character and he and the hulk go hand in hand alot but I have never questioned his following,hes a great character.

 

[Unthinkable]

I don't care what you say Corpulent. I am gonna argue with you until I put you over 14000 posts. LOL.

Well, it looks like he accomplished that.

 

[Xofenroht]

You know...he does different things now (Wolverine). He remembers his past.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, it looks like he accomplished that.

You know, I don't even remember this dude. I take comfort in knowing that I wouldn't have even bothered getting involved in this conversation now, though. 3 years later, I've actually gained a bit of wisdom about fanboy arguments, if nothing else.

 

[Captain Useless]

Not this *****e bag again

Me?

 

[Xofenroht]

No, Nitecock.

 

[Anubis]

No, the Defenders.

 

[Xofenroht]

Oh.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Wolverine is just a simply fun character all around in my opinion. The only thing I have a problem with him about is his yellow and black costume which really is out dated and has to go.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Brown and tan. Always brown and tan.

 

[PhotoJones]

It will be one of the first things I change when I gain control of Marvel.

 

[Anubis]

I'd just change the current costumes colors to brown and tan. That would be the best way to do it.