The Wolverine Wolverine's Mask

[def28]

I'm pretty sure if Mangold & Bomback kept the scene featuring the costume in the film, audiences would cheer (specially with the brutal carnage that follows).

Agreed. Thats the kind of stuff Wolverine fans have been waiting to see since X1. I couldnt see anyone complaining over it if that scene was brought to the screen.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Agreed. Thats the kind of stuff Wolverine fans have been waiting to see since X1. I couldnt see anyone complaining over it if that scene was brought to the screen.

Here's hoping Mangold & Bomback didn't alter Aronofsky's draft too much (it definitely went through alot of changes).

 

[X-Maniac]

I'm pretty sure if Mangold & Bomback kept the scene featuring the costume in the film, audiences would cheer (specially with the brutal carnage that follows).

That would rock. More for the comic book geeks, but nonetheless it would rock!

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

That would rock. More for the comic book geeks, but nonetheless it would rock!

I just gotta give Aronofsky props for finding a brilliant way to put it in there.

It couldn't be the same as it is with Batman or Superman's costumes. He really has nothing to hide from.

But to make it a tool that emphasizes Mariko's pain in seeing the man she loves slaughter dozens of people makes it both iconic and poignant.

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She looks for him in the masked beast murdering the Yakuza and finds him through the eyes.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

I'm pretty sure if Mangold & Bomback kept the scene featuring the costume in the film, audiences would cheer (specially with the brutal carnage that follows).

I think that would depend on how the costume looks.

 

[Mr.?]

Can someone tell me in the script how it's written why he wears a mask?

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Can someone tell me in the script how it's written why he wears a mask

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he breaks into a dressing room at an opera in Tokyo where a Yakuza boss sits in the front row. Wolverine grabs a costume off a rack (the brown and orange costume) to blend in and walks onto the stage. He then kills everyone in the front row. At first the audience thinks its part of the play but then people start shooting at Wolverine so people begin to storm out of the theatre. Amongst them are Mariko and Noburo - who's personal security rushes to get out. Mariko manages to lock eyes with Wolverine through the mask and she cries as he slaughters the Yakuza. As soon as she's out of his periphery, he chops a guy's head off right behind him.

 

[X-Maniac]

I just gotta give Aronofsky props for finding a brilliant way to put it in there.

It couldn't be the same as it is with Batman or Superman's costumes. He really has nothing to hide from.

But to make it a tool that emphasizes Mariko's pain in seeing the man she loves slaughter dozens of people makes it both iconic and poignant.

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She looks for him in the masked beast murdering the Yakuza and finds him through the eyes.

The only other way I can think of to introduce the costume and mask would be for it to be part of a psychological ritual to help Logan separate the man from the animal.

Giving him a mask and costume and sending him on a mission would be their way of making him embrace the animal while in the costume - and then shut that part of himself away when he takes the costume off, a way of trying to divide the two personas.

A bit like Batman taking on the character of bat/darkness/shadows when putting on the costume.

 

[BoredGuy]

Spoiler

he breaks into a dressing room at an opera in Tokyo where a Yakuza boss sits in the front row. Wolverine grabs a costume off a rack (the brown and orange costume) to blend in and walks onto the stage. He then kills everyone in the front row. At first the audience thinks its part of the play but then people start shooting at Wolverine so people begin to storm out of the theatre. Amongst them are Mariko and Noburo - who's personal security rushes to get out. Mariko manages to lock eyes with Wolverine through the mask and she cries as he slaughters the Yakuza. As soon as she's out of his periphery, he chops a guy's head off right behind him.

That's sounds pretty awesome, hope something like that appears in the film!

 

[marcvader]

Spoiler

he breaks into a dressing room at an opera in Tokyo where a Yakuza boss sits in the front row. Wolverine grabs a costume off a rack (the brown and orange costume) to blend in and walks onto the stage. He then kills everyone in the front row. At first the audience thinks its part of the play but then people start shooting at Wolverine so people begin to storm out of the theatre. Amongst them are Mariko and Noburo - who's personal security rushes to get out. Mariko manages to lock eyes with Wolverine through the mask and she cries as he slaughters the Yakuza. As soon as she's out of his periphery, he chops a guy's head off right behind him.

You see naysayers? All it takes is some thought in you can come up with a reasonable solution to at least give an instance where wearing a costume is plausible.

 

[X-Maniac]

You see naysayers? All it takes is some thought in you can come up with a reasonable solution to at least give an instance where wearing a costume is plausible.

I'm just not sure that such a costume - the style and 'fit' of it, especially - would be something worn in a Japanese play.

I prefer my own idea of it being something especially devised for a ritual in an attempt to help Wolverine is helped to embrace the animal (while wearing it) and suppress the animal (when not wearing it). A way of trying to separate his animal and human aspects so that he can switch between them and not be dominated by either one.

 

[marcvader]

Whatever but my point is the mask can be done.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

I'm just not sure that such a costume - the style and 'fit' of it, especially - would be something worn in a Japanese play.

I prefer my own idea of it being something especially devised for a ritual in an attempt to help Wolverine is helped to embrace the animal (while wearing it) and suppress the animal (when not wearing it). A way of trying to separate his animal and human aspects so that he can switch between them and not be dominated by either one.

Thing is, there's no need to separate the man from the animal but rather train the man to control the animal.

Spoiler

In the script, Wolverine is the animal throughout the first act, killing dozens of people brutally. In the second act, through training, he learns to control the animal and kill like a warrior.

The scene with the costume is brilliant because at first Mariko's not sure its him. When she locks eyes with him through the mask she realizes it is him and is immediately mortified to see the man she loves slaughter all those people.

 

[X-Maniac]

Thing is, there's no need to separate the man from the animal but rather train the man to control the animal.

Spoiler

In the script, Wolverine is the animal throughout the first act, killing dozens of people brutally. In the second act, through training, he learns to control the animal and kill like a warrior.

The scene with the costume is brilliant because at first Mariko's not sure its him. When she locks eyes with him through the mask she realizes it is him and is immediately mortified to see the man she loves slaughter all those people.

It sounds great if they could pull it off. Seeing the costume would be a fantastic geek-out moment.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

It sounds great if they could pull it off. Seeing the costume would be a fantastic geek-out moment.

Definitely.

It takes me back to Point Break when Keanu has the drop on Swayze & they lock eyes, Swayze's baby blues piercing through the Reagan mask...just awesome.

 

[Mr.?]

Spoiler

he breaks into a dressing room at an opera in Tokyo where a Yakuza boss sits in the front row. Wolverine grabs a costume off a rack (the brown and orange costume) to blend in and walks onto the stage. He then kills everyone in the front row. At first the audience thinks its part of the play but then people start shooting at Wolverine so people begin to storm out of the theatre. Amongst them are Mariko and Noburo - who's personal security rushes to get out. Mariko manages to lock eyes with Wolverine through the mask and she cries as he slaughters the Yakuza. As soon as she's out of his periphery, he chops a guy's head off right behind him.

That sounds cool but

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Is it just for a scene or does he wear it the rest of the movie?

 

[marcvader]

Just for that scene. It's a nod to the fans.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Just for that scene. It's a nod to the fans.

Yep.

There are more nods, like

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the origin of the hair style

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[GREEN =w= DAY]

whoa...so the script leaked?

 

[def28]

whoa...so the script leaked?

The one being discussed is Aronofskys draft. So its more then likely been changed since then.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

The one being discussed is Aronofskys draft. So its more then likely been changed since then.

Its definitely been changed.

We got that set construction report a few months ago that revealed a second mutant in the film and a WWII Japanese prison camp. Neither of those are in Aronofsky's draft nor is Viper - who features heavily in Mangold's film.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

Well we haven't seen too much of Viper in the set reports and whatnot. Maybe her role isn't HUGE...
They better not be pulling another Origins...

 

[marvelrobbins]

Well Viper was In 2010 story breakdown that leaked so I am guessing she was In original
script dropped from Aronofsky's rewrite and put back in rewrite after James Mangold came
on.It's should also be noted while a WWII japanese prison camp sequenze was added
we have had no indiction of the second mutant the site mentioned Inless Viper Is
second mutant.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Well Viper was In 2010 story breakdown that leaked so I am guessing she was In original
script dropped from Aronofsky's rewrite and put back in rewrite after James Mangold came
on.

My guess as well.

 

[rogue trooper]

Spoiler

he breaks into a dressing room at an opera in Tokyo where a Yakuza boss sits in the front row. Wolverine grabs a costume off a rack (the brown and orange costume) to blend in and walks onto the stage. He then kills everyone in the front row. At first the audience thinks its part of the play but then people start shooting at Wolverine so people begin to storm out of the theatre. Amongst them are Mariko and Noburo - who's personal security rushes to get out. Mariko manages to lock eyes with Wolverine through the mask and she cries as he slaughters the Yakuza. As soon as she's out of his periphery, he chops a guy's head off right behind him.

Brilliant! I always knew this could be done!