The Wolverine Wolverine's Mask

[747]

"You can't exactly replicate anything from one form of the media to the other. Things that work perfectly in comics won't work perfectly in movies." (-Stan Lee)

Comic-book faithfulness isn't automatically the better thing. Personally I much prefer X-Men 2 and X-Men: First Class to every solo Marvel Studios movie.

Guess it's just me though, most people here seem to only want the films to be carbon copies of the comic-books.

With that said, I would love to see a live-action version of Wolverine's mask and think it could work great, even in Fox's established X-Men-verse. It's nowhere near a necessity to make a great live-action Wolverine though.

 

[747]

But he literally had no other face for YEARS!
If you say he shouldn't have it, I say you don't like Wolverine.

No other face for years? I'd say his civilian look – with the haircut, the sideburns and the plaid shirts – also has visually defined him plenty through the years.

And saying that just because you don't necessarily want the mask in a live-action movie means you don't like Wolverine is just silly, narrow-minded talk.

 

[def28]

"You can't exactly replicate anything from one form of the media to the other. Things that work perfectly in comics won't work perfectly in movies." (-Stan Lee)

Comic-book faithfulness isn't automatically the better thing. Personally I much prefer X-Men 2 and X-Men: First Class to every solo Marvel Studios movie.

Guess it's just me though, most people here seem to only want the films to be carbon copies of the comic-books.

I dont know if thats true, It can go either way. A good movie is a good movie regardless. Most are pretty cool with changes, but some things/characters dont need to be changed (Deadpool) or need to be given more respect (Cyclops). Comics can be replicated to screen pretty exact if thats the intention. Sin City,300 and Watchmen are adapted pretty damn close. In the end I hear more complaints about films/characters not being comic accurate then otherwise. The general audience doesnt care either way. So why anger the fanbase?

Anything can be done. I remember hearing awhile back a Watchmen movie would never happen, or Thanos. Its just about how its written and a matter of time.

 

[X-Maniac]

I dont know if thats true, It can go either way. A good movie is a good movie regardless. Most are pretty cool with changes, but some things/characters dont need to be changed (Deadpool) or need to be given more respect (Cyclops). Comics can be replicated to screen pretty exact if thats the intention. Sin City,300 and Watchmen are adapted pretty damn close. In the end I hear more complaints about films/characters not being comic accurate then otherwise. The general audience doesnt care either way. So why anger the fanbase?

Anything can be done. I remember hearing awhile back a Watchmen movie would never happen, or Thanos. Its just about how its written and a matter of time.

I agree with that. They may as well try to make a good movie that fans will like as much as the general audience, because it's the fans who follow every piece of info online, it's the fans who see it multiple times and obsess over it, and the fans who talk it about for years afterwards.

Watchmen's problem was not its accuracy to the comics (apart from the ending being different), it was the adult rating, lack of big names, poor marketing and perhaps the fact that the mainstream were totally unfamiliar with the material (which could have helped by better marketing). The rating could have been changed to be honest - we didn't need to see Dr Manhattan in all his blue naked glory, the scenes where he had on underwear were fine!

 

[def28]

Yeah I saw no point in that. It needed the R Rating for the subject matter though.

Some comic films are not affected by their R rating. 300, Sincity, Blade, Kick-Ass and Wanted did pretty solid and got sequels in development at some point. I think your right with Watchmen, most didnt know what it was or the characters. MOst marketable thing was "From the Director of 300 comes Watchmen" It still looked like a Superhero film outfits and all, but nothing recognizeable to anyone besides comic fans. Got labeled as just another comic film with most viewers. As far as Marvel, Wolverine and Deadpool are probably the only two characters I could see generating some cash with an R rating. The kiddies wont miss it either way. Family sales would def take a dive, but if the Resident Evil Movies still open decent with ****** reviews and all, I think Wolverine would easily go above 50. But I think we have a better chance seeing the mask then that happening haha.

 

[Project862006]

I agree with that. They may as well try to make a good movie that fans will like as much as the general audience, because it's the fans who follow every piece of info online, it's the fans who see it multiple times and obsess over it, and the fans who talk it about for years afterwards.

Watchmen's problem was not its accuracy to the comics (apart from the ending being different), it was the adult rating, lack of big names, poor marketing and perhaps the fact that the mainstream were totally unfamiliar with the material (which could have helped by better marketing). The rating could have been changed to be honest - we didn't need to see Dr Manhattan in all his blue naked glory, the scenes where he had on underwear were fine!

dont know what else they could done i thought the 2nd trailer showcased the story without spoiling it

they even did great solo character profile spots that aired every week on NBC that showcased the characters very well like these for example

 

[thewhyteman]

It wouldn't work. Samurai masks either just cover the mouth or whole, face they aren't made of fabric.

Why does it have to be fabric?

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I would do anything to see him wear his classic mask in this film, though I know it wont happen.

 

[BoredGuy]

No other face for years? I'd say his civilian look – with the haircut, the sideburns and the plaid shirts – also has visually defined him plenty through the years.

No you misunderstand
I meant- literally- that no one saw his face for the first few years of his existence.
And my point was that wolvie's mask is just as iconic to his fans as batman's or spider-man's
Again, I'm still gunna see this either way, but I agree with darkvengeance here, I would loove to see it done well

 

[x-fan]

http://www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/2726504/hugh-jackman-shirtless-at-bondi-beach-50/

check out that image and imagine it with the matching mask and be sad we will never see it in a movie

 

[S. Grundy]

Hugh Jackman running around in a wetsuit and silly mask, I'm still okay not seeing that on film.

 

[x-fan]

and you also have no imagination, if you can't look at tha and picture a better made suit, but what I am saying is that, that is as close to the x-force costume is we are likely to see Hugh in, and it is a the beach, but you can't stand the I dea of a costumed character actually being in the costume. we go into these movies with a sense of disbelief, the costumes are no more ridiculous than a man with claws coming out of his fists or a man shooting lasers from his eyes.

 

[Nathan]

Except that optic blasts and claws look pretty cool, and colorful costume, if not done right, could potentially look very silly.

 

[BoredGuy]

Potentially

Or, potentially, they could look awesome

 

[Project862006]

i just dont think mask is needed for me wolverine's iconic look is his mutton chops and his hair not his mask and yellow outfit

 

[x-fan]

why is it that every time we mention masks or costumes some has to mention yellow, I am not sure anyone here wants the yellow maybe the brown or black, I agree, yellow would suck. I have never seen a good conversion of that suit. Some one here pointed out that literally for years they never showed him out of his mask, they didn't even have a design for his face, until later. even then he was suppose to be young looking with no chops, when they did show his face they made his hair and chops follow the mask design. so truly his mask is the true Iconic look.

 

[BoredGuy]

Testify!


and I thought I'd post this for your consideration:
http://youtu.be/UuKQ3Oc97Wk

I don't watch the full reenactment, so I dunno how good it is.
But the mask looks pretty friggin B.A.

(also, I dunno if that link will work, never posted a youtube video before)
Joblo.com also has it up if i screwed it up

 

[BMM]

What are you guys talking about? You keep going on about Wolverine's mask being iconic, but you wonder why people keep bringing up the color yellow? Isn't that obvious.

And what is this nonsense about Wolverine not being seen out of his mask for years, as though for decades and countless issues, it was a mystery what Wolverine looked liked? Wolverine first appears in The Incredible Hulk issues 180, 181, and 182, in late 1974. He makes his next appearance in Giant-Size X-Men, in April 1975, and 4 issues later, in April 1976, he is seen without his mask. 8 appearances in and we see his face.

 

[x-fan]

What are you guys talking about? You keep going on about Wolverine's mask being iconic, but you wonder why people keep bringing up the color yellow? Isn't that obvious.

And what is this nonsense about Wolverine not being seen out of his mask for years, as though for decades and countless issues, it was a mystery what Wolverine looked liked? Wolverine first appears in The Incredible Hulk issues 180, 181, and 182, in late 1974. He makes his next appearance in Giant-Size X-Men, in April 1975, and 4 issues later, in April 1976, he is seen without his mask. 8 appearances in and we see his face.

he wasn't designed with a face in mind , he was suppose to be a throw away character, but he was so popular that they had to flesh him out, so the mask was his face til then. and yellow and blue never look good on screen,. Wolverine has had many costumes but certain elements always remain, mask gloves general shape of the costume, color has varied widely, so any color scheme might work and please us fans, we don't care which costume they put him in as long as they do. get it??

 

[Project862006]

my point still stands his iconic look is his hair and muttonchops that's what most people associate his popular look not his mask and spandex costume

and logically speaking logan would be the last person to wear a costume

he isn't the type of person to hide his face and wont have a secret identity because he isn't trying to hide from something

 

[marcvader]

I'd guess some where's about 75% of depictions of Wolverine in toys, busts, statues, Marvel merchandise like lunchboxes, t-shirts, bedsheets and such are of him in his "iconic" costume and mask.

 

[Project862006]

does jackman not look and feel like wolverine on screen without costume?

if so then costume never mattered

 

[marcvader]

He looks like a version of Wolverine but not the definitive one.

 

[def28]

I'd guess some where's about 75% of depictions of Wolverine in toys, busts, statues, Marvel merchandise like lunchboxes, t-shirts, bedsheets and such are of him in his "iconic" costume and mask.

Yeah merchandising knows he sales more with the mask. Especially with kids. Theres a decent amount without it though.

Allegedly the costume showed up in the Aronofsky script so who knows. It is tough imo to completely discredit it from ever showing up one way or another. If he ever needs to go covert, why the hell not use it? I think most fans will go ape **** over it.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Yeah merchandising knows he sales more with the mask. Especially with kids. Theres a decent amount without it though.

Allegedly the costume showed up in the Aronofsky script so who knows. It is tough imo to completely discredit it from ever showing up one way or another. I think most fans will go ape **** if they use it.

I'm pretty sure if Mangold & Bomback kept the scene featuring the costume in the film, audiences would cheer (specially with the brutal carnage that follows).