Work On 'Bond 23' Begins - The Official 007 Discussion Thread

How is what I said not true? Crappy movies make less. Good movies make more.

Each Bourne movie made much more than the one before it. Royale and QoS made about the same.
The Shawshank Redemption is an example of a movie doing **** at the box office but is now seen as one of the greatest movies of all time so your argument is flawed to begin with...
 
Kaiser, a number of good movies don't tons of dough.

More examples: Blade Runner, Fight Club, and Office Space...
 
How is what I said not true? Crappy movies make less. Good movies make more.
The quality of a movie, most of the time, is never dictated by the amount of money it recieves at the box office. Your statement is just a flat out lie.
 
Oh. My. God.

Then he must have thought Transformers 2 was ****ing Citizen Kane.

God help him.
 
Every Bond Movie to date(with the exception of License to Kill) has made more than the previous Bond movie. Which is why with Bond movies, you can't gauge how good it was from the B.O

The franchise started in 1962. You have to adjust for inflation. The highest grossing Bond movie is Thunderball, which was the 3rd highest grossing movie of 1965. And the 26th highest grossing movie of all-time. The least grossing Bond movie is The Man with the Golden Gun. TMWTGG did so bad that even un-adjusted it's the second to last in the series' box office gross.
 
Oh. My. God.

Then he must have thought Transformers 2 was ****ing Citizen Kane.

God help him.

haha.

Well, he's thinking is it's just a very..shallow way to look at things. It just doesn't hold up and I would surprised if he still defends it. I'm sure he's a good guy though.
 
The quality of a movie, most of the time, is never dictated by the amount of money it recieves at the box office. Your statement is just a flat out lie.

Why do people wish to simplifies things into such generalities?

The rule of thumb is good movies tend to make money more than bad movies, BUT we need to factor in other important factors such as genres, demographics, release dates, and of course is it mainstream.

I thought Synecdoche, New York was a great film, yet it didn't make that much money, but two things it wasn't released in that many theaters and secondly it's narrative structure was far from the norm, unlike the far more popular Eternal Sunshine of Spotless Mind written by the same guy and followed a far more traditional story structure and had more traditional values, "Love Triumphs Over All".


Now let's move on to some more popular examples... Star Trek (2009) good movie went on to resuscitate the franchise and make over 200 million. Terminator Salvation, crap on a stick, went on to be a BO failure.

GI Joe not that great, but mediocre is going on to have a mediocre box office run.

Now we move to Transformers 2, sure it's god awful, but let's remember how much excitement the first one caused. The first movie was the ultimate popcorn flick and built up a helluva a fanbase hence why TF2 did good. But let's look at Fantastic Four the first did moderately well due to name recognition then the second one didn't do nearly as good.

And we could go on but for the most part good "mainstream" films do well, look at District 9.
 
I'm counting the Bond films that has been made over the years from QOS to World Is Not Enough. Bourne's 3 movies beat QOS, CR, DAD and WINE.
Bourne better than CR? No way, bourne is a good series but it has nothing on casino royale. Such an amazing movie. I hope the campbell comes back to direct the 23rd bond!
 
Bourne better than CR? No way, bourne is a good series but it has nothing on casino royale. Such an amazing movie. I hope the campbell comes back to direct the 23rd bond!

He won't, he's directing Green Lantern
 
Well, I was going to respond to Kaisers initial post, but I see that it's been emphatically answered already;

Nothing I was going to say in response that hasnt been said better already.
 
Oh. My. God.

Then he must have thought Transformers 2 was ****ing Citizen Kane.

God help him.

He actually would have thought that Citizen Kane was absolutely horrible, since it didn't do that well at the B.O. when it first came out.
 

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