Sequels would LESS romance improve SM-4

[spider-neil]

opinions please

 

[spider-neil]

do you think they should concentrate on the character of peter/spidey more without (or at least tone down) the love aspect of the first three movies?

 

[thejon93]

opinions please

If they could do it better, I'd say it was fine... but the fact is, it's not.

 

[The Joker]

It might not have been as bad if MJ was a more likeable character. But she wasn't.

Had Peter been head over heels for Gwen for three movies, I think it would have come off much better, because Gwen was such a likeable character. And more attractive, too.

 

[thejon93]

It might not have been as bad if MJ was a more likeable character. But she wasn't.

Had Peter been head over heels for Gwen for three movies, I think it would have come off much better, because Gwen was such a likeable character. And more attractive, too.

F'n right.

 

[hatebox]

It certainly didn't hurt TDK.

Romance is fine because clearly Peter and MJ's relationship is a big deal, but for the love of God Raimi/whoever directs it, stop making it so corny and on the nose!

 

[GoldGoblin]

It certainly didn't hurt TDK.

Romance is fine because clearly Peter and MJ's relationship is a big deal, but for the love of God Raimi/whoever directs it, stop making it so corny and on the nose!

^

 

[Blader5489]

It certainly didn't hurt TDK.

Romance is fine because clearly Peter and MJ's relationship is a big deal, but for the love of God Raimi/whoever directs it, stop making it so corny and on the nose!

And what does that have to do with Spider-Man?

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The romance is fine, IMO.

 

[bunk]

It might not have been as bad if MJ was a more likeable character. But she wasn't.

Yeah. They need to take another look at the comics and see where they went wrong.

It certainly didn't hurt TDK.

Romance is fine because clearly Peter and MJ's relationship is a big deal, but for the love of God Raimi/whoever directs it, stop making it so corny and on the nose!

QFT. The level of "love story" is perfectly fine. It's a huge part of the Spidey mythos. Less crying is what I'm looking for.

 

[hatebox]

And what does that have to do with Spider-Man?

A lot. TDK's on course to become the biggest comic book money maker ever, so it proves that a lot of romance isn't necessary to make a very well-received movie of this genre. MJ is clearly an important character, but TDK proves audiences don't need the romance side shoved down their throats.

 

[Visionary]

Cool It Now.

 

[thejon93]

Cool It Now.

What?... I didn't see any exclaimation points in his post, so he seems to be fine

 

[hatebox]

Cool It Now.

Huh?

 

[Visionary]

I'm talking about the romance in the Spidey films, cool it now, less romance. They especially went overboard with having a love triangle in all three movies. I guess it's to match MJ getting kidnapped by the villain(s) in all three movies. Thank goodness for a new writer for SM4. Let's hope he has something new.

 

[thejon93]

I'm talking about the romance in the Spidey films, cool it now, less romance. They especially went overboard with having a love triangle in all three movies. I guess it's to match MJ getting kidnapped by the villain(s) in all three movies. Thank goodness for a new writer for SM4. Let's hope he has something new.

Alright, I was a bit confused there, sorry

 

[Blader5489]

A lot. TDK's on course to become the biggest comic book money maker ever, so it proves that a lot of romance isn't necessary to make a very well-received movie of this genre. MJ is clearly an important character, but TDK proves audiences don't need the romance side shoved down their throats.

And for what I'm sure is the billionth time, Batman =/= Spider-Man.

Two completely different characters, with completely different mythologies, whose stories happen in completely different contexts. Just because a romance angle would be secondary in BB and TDK does not mean the same is true for Spidey.

 

[JerseyJoker]

I think the romance is fine, thats one of Spideys qualities, has been his romance with MJ. Why get rid of it and just add in more action for the sake of action.

I have always though of the tale of Spider-Man as a Love story with action in it, while other heros are more like an action story with bits of love stories in it.

Thats me though.

 

[thejon93]

And for what I'm sure is the billionth time, Batman =/= Spider-Man.

Two completely different characters, with completely different mythologies, whose stories happen in completely different contexts. Just because a romance angle would be secondary in BB and TDK does not mean the same is true for Spidey.

Dude, I guess you're pretty sick and tired of all these people posting about 'The Dark Knight' in other threads(it's beginning to annoy myself, as well), but he makes a good point. Let's say if Mary Jane died in the first film, of course you wouldn't care because her character wasn't there all the way, the second time if she died... who the %^&$ cares, I was saying kill that &!#@% off from the get-go and in the third... I was ready and willing to kill her myself(if the character was actually real, I'm not talking about killing Dunst or anything... ). Anyways, I felt the same way about Rachel Dawes in 'Batman Begins', I think to myself at times now that [BLACKOUT]her death[/BLACKOUT] in 'TDK' would've made me care a lot more if Maggie was Dawes throughout the first(considering I hated Katie "Wooden, 'Holmes on Homes'" Holmes). Anyhow, I think he's just saying that they can make the character of Mary Jane better by using an example which just happens to be, 'The Dark Knight'.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

You know, I’m very picky when it comes to romantic stories. The Spidey trilogy had no real romance in my opinion. All of it was just clichés, lust, cheating, love triangle bullcrap and at the end it was fake and insulting. Sam Raimi and writers can’t do true romance. Before subtracting any romantic drama from the franchise, they need have it done right at least once. Otherwise the trilogy really went overboard. They need to show that characters have real lives that don’t necessarily revolve around them running after each other.

 

[Grievous]

well if MJ was nicer then sure, because the put in alot of action in SM3 and look how it tured out.

 

[DieSmiling]

Less romance. Everyone I know who DOESN'T like the Spider-Man movies complains that their is too much sappy, poorly written romance.

"Do you love me or not?"

"How do you think that made me feel?"

Ugh. This isn't Sisterhood of Traveling Pants, it's Spider-Man.

 

[Pluto]

? Of course not!

 

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

You know, I’m very picky when it comes to romantic stories. The Spidey trilogy had not real romance in my opinion. All of it was just clichés, lust, cheating, love triangle bullcrap and at the end it was fake and insulting. Sam Raimi and writers can’t do true romance. Before subtracting any romantic drama from the franchise, they need have it done right at least once. Otherwise the trilogy really went overboard. They need to show that characters have real lives that don’t necessarily revolve around them running after each other.

I was so dead set against the love stories in these movies and then I read your post, and agree 100% at least if they knew how to write one it would'nt of slowed the movies down like it did, when something is written well it flows but this was not the case in any of the 3 movies

 

[Spider-Man '92]

I don't think it's the romance really. I think there needs to be more diversity. 90% of the films are focused on Peter and MJ, I think if they took a bit away from them, and gave it to the other characters, it'd feel even, and not overly-dramatic.