Juicy J
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Spider-Man = Worldwide: $821,708,551
Spider-Man 2 = Worldwide: $783,766,341
Spider-Man 3 = Worldwide: $890,871,626
The Amazing Spider-Man = Worldwide: $752,216,557
Adding them up, we get = 3,246 million.
Now, movies from Marvel Studios,
Iron Man - $585,174,222
Iron Man 2 - $623,933,331
The Incredible hulk - $263,427,551
Thor - $449.3 million
Captain America: The First Avenger - $368,608,363
Let's add them, Avengers does not count as it is an ensemble movie, we are comparing solo super-hero movies here, = 2,288 mil.
So, Four Spider-Man movies made almost a billion more than five Marvel studios movies.
So, why should Marvel Studios do a better job than Sony ?
And how much better did The Incredible Hulk did then Ang Lee's Hulk at Marvel Studios ? Not that much (Hulk : $245,360,480 mil worldwide)
We've already established that money is merely icing on the cake. It doesn't prove or disprove a studios handling of a property. Transformers is right behind Spider-man on the overall highest grossing franchise list. Does that mean they're doing a great job with those movies?
Also if we are talking money it makes zero sense to include all 4 spider-man films and only 5 of the 6 Marvel films just because it's an 'ensemble' movie. At that point we're splitting hairs.
If we are talking money, Marvel undoubtedly takes the cake. They have made more off their superhero properties than Sony has. Period. That's the debate. Not to mention that by this time next year they'll have two more movies under the belt, giving them even more money.
Case closed.
Iron Man 1 - 94% critical rating, and a 91% user rating on rotten tomatoesMost of the MCU solo films are crummy.
Incredible Hulk - 67% and 75%. Still not great, but still fresh
Iron Man 2 - 75% and 80%. Not as good as the original, but what do you know, still fresh.
Thor - 77% and 80%
Captain America - 79% and 75%
All fresh reviews. All, for the most part, pretty high scores as well. Looks like most film critics and moviegoers wouldn't describe the solo films as crummy.
Yes that is your opinion and I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you're wrong, but it looks like you all are definitely in the minority on this one.
As I said earlier, SHIELD was in IM2 for all of 9 minutes, and the Avengers was only mentioned in the last scene with Fury, which was a 3 minute scene. Care to explain how it was a two hour trailer again?Iron Man 2 was definitely the 2 hour trailer for the Avengers.
No you can't prove or disprove that statement. But you can have an opinion on the matter which you can back up using facts and numbers, which I have been doing and will continue to do.Point is, outside of the Avengers and Iron Man 1, Marvel/Disney hasn't proven to be the "best in the business." You cannot prove or disprove that statement as of yet, so let's see what else they have to give us.
Yes, they will be.They have more chances to make more superhero movies simply because they have the rights to more characters. So they will be pumping out movies every year for quite some time. Will they be good, or even "the best?" Well, let's wait and see.
As I said earlier, they have a great track record. If you don't believe me now lets wait a year when they released IM3 and Thor 2 and then have Cap 2 and guardians of the galaxy on the horizon.
I'm not seeing anything that backs that up nicely. At all. The most I've seen is, "well I personally don't really like the Marvel studios movies", an opinion which I have already shown is in the minority because most people do indeed like those movies. That doesn't mean the movies are all perfect, or that my opinion discounts anyone else's opinion just because I agree with the majority. It just means that I think, subjectively, Marvel Studios would make a better Spider-man movie and I honestly have presented a pretty solid argument for that.Looks like many agree that Marvel Studios is not exactly the best place to house Spider-Man films and animation, and you guys back it up nicely
Also, let's take this into account: I think SM1 and SM2 are better films than half of Marvel Studios output so far. But you know what? That doesn't really matter, considering the franchise has now been rebooted and is going in a completely different direction.
Looking at Rotten tomatoes again, ASM is at a 73% critical rating. That's lower than 5 of the 6 Marvel Studios movies. Logically if the average rating on marvel's solo films is higher than 73..... See what I'm getting at here?
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