Would the CGI in your case break the movie if it was terrible?

If there's any disappointment on my part in regards to the CG, it might be Oa. From the small glimpses I admire the art design, but for such monumental ground that a comic book film is covering -- I expected to be WOW'd by the alien landscapes. Imo my eyes should be saying "this is taking CGI to new levels". I didn't get that at all. It was cool to see, but not amazing by any means.

While certainly not typical, I immediately recognize the green-screen work whenever Reynolds was on-screen. Everything flowed well when the entire shots were CG, but it's definitely a glaring disparity when melded with realistic photography.
 
:rolleyes: Imo, the CGI costume is ten thousand times better than an actual costume. It looks really beautiful and makes completely sense.
I know what their going for with the suit, and its ambitious, but right now its distracting to me. Id rather the suit wasn't an 'effect' but something like the new Tron suits but bit more alien. That would be cool. I'm just not digging the radioactive Bacon.
Cool Avatar, like the Rocketeer.
 
If there's any disappointment on my part in regards to the CG, it might be Oa. From the small glimpses I admire the art design, but for such monumental ground that a comic book film is covering -- I expected to be WOW'd by the alien landscapes. Imo my eyes should be saying "this is taking CGI to new levels". I didn't get that at all. It was cool to see, but not amazing by any means.

This.
 
I'm sure it will be better come release, but right now it gives me the impression of a star wars prequel.
 
I have to admit that I was expecting Oa to look worse than what we actually got in the trailer. Even the aliens look decent.

This is coming from person who is completely harsh towards Sony Imageworks.
 
I still maintain that what people are seeing as bad CGI for the costume is actually just confusion due to the fact it's a construct of light instead of actual fabric. They expected something more tangible.
 
If there's any disappointment on my part in regards to the CG, it might be Oa. From the small glimpses I admire the art design, but for such monumental ground that a comic book film is covering -- I expected to be WOW'd by the alien landscapes. Imo my eyes should be saying "this is taking CGI to new levels". I didn't get that at all. It was cool to see, but not amazing by any means.

While certainly not typical, I immediately recognize the green-screen work whenever Reynolds was on-screen. Everything flowed well when the entire shots were CG, but it's definitely a glaring disparity when melded with realistic photography.

This. I know a lot of people are raving about the Oa backgrounds. In stills, they really come across as paintings to me. In action, it's better though, so I'm hoping that it'll hold up well in the movie, especially in 3D.

It's just in the pictures and HD trailer I can't stop thinking about how flat and painted on the planet looks. It's pretty, but the texture isn't there for me at least.

Damn. I really don't want to come across as a hater or anything. I'm not trying to be at all, and I'll gladly cheer if the movie's fantastic.
 
Bad CGI will break the movie for me and right now the Green Lanterns are bad CGI, they need a lot of work. However, the tank sequence in the Iron Man trailers looked really bad, but seen in context it works really well. Hopefully that's the case with Green Lantern. I want to like this movie, but right now CGI is already breaking it, the non-effects shots don't mesh with the effects shots.
 
Poor CGI would kill the film for me...but after seeing the trailer all my fears were put at ease. :)
 
The tank scene was dramatically improved from the Super Bowl spot to the final film in May. I firmly believe that the effects for Green Lantern are still being tweaked and finalized.
 
The way I see it, there are a lot more shots like these;

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Where the suit looks good, than there are shots like these;

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Where it's not so good, and those are both from the same scene...
 
I hope they..white out Ryan's eyes a bit more. In the posters and promo pics, his eyes look more cloudy.
 
For a movie so reliant on effects, it could possibly break the movie for me. I'll reserve that judgment until I see footage closer to release.

I always say in F/X heavy films, that any technological gap will make the film huge, no matter what it's true quality is. I thought T2 was good, but without the liquid terminator, I doubt it would have become such a cultural phenomenon, at least in my view, because the first film was much better just from a quality standpoint and didn't enjoy a fraction of it's success.

The same could be said for Avatar, a paint by the numbers story dressed up in glorious effects. There's no doubt that if Green Lantern can pull off fantastic visuals, people will see it regardless of it actually being very good. If not.....:csad:
 
I think people are too hard on the CGI thus far.

It's no where as bad as..Clash of the Titans. So far..
 
I understand these effects are somewhat early, but I'm still not convinced by the fully cg-suit...especially the mask. Why not just use a practical suit and enhance it with cgi? Seems like a lot of time and money that could have been used for other effects.
 
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What's with these practical suit wishes? The whole point of the concept is to look like light. If there were any design that absolutely necessitated creation through CGI, it would be this.

The method risks looking a bit off when not done perfectly, but as shown above, when the renders are near flawless the effect is unmatched.
 
But I see the argument for using a practical suit though, with CGI enhancements. Why can't people see both sides of the debate?
 
Because right now, I'm not exactly understanding the other side. As I've stated, what is the point of using real-world material? Even if it's enhanced, they'd essentially be using CGI to not make it look like... real-world material. That doesn't make an ounce of sense to me.

The final goal is "light". CGI is the only way you can achieve this. Nothing practical is going to help with the effect.
 
But it's a movie though. It's not like they used real satanic skin for Hellboy's make-up.
 
JAK®;19239438 said:
The way I see it, there are a lot more shots like these;

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Those shots look great and the last one really shows what the mask should look like, its has depth to it, so I hope that apartment scene is fixed. That said if they had left that apartment scene out of the trailer the reaction would be different. People ignore these shots and look at the bad one. I'm glad you posted this JAK
 
Those shots are indeed good, fair point, it's too easy to hyper-focus on the one bad scene.
 

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