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Would You Mind If The DCEU Gets Hard Rebooted?

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Would you mind or care if Gunn pushes the reset button on the franchise and recasts everyone? Or do you believe the DCEU shouldn’t be rebooted. Please post your thoughts below.
 
Nuke it. Love elements of it but I'm done. Combine the new DCU with the Reevesverse and tell a different kind of story.

We need to leave this toxicity and drama behind.

Ironically the Snydercult has killed the Snyderverse. It's a toxic wasteland now.
 
I’ve asked this several times before but does a hard reboot really solve DC’s “problem?” How will a reboot fundamentally change how DC’s films are made? I think DC needs to take a hard look at the common denominator between Birds of Prey, Shazam, The Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman 84 and Black Adam and figure out why those films werent better received or performed better. All of those films were largely filmmaker driven so…does that mean the real problem is giving the filmmakers too much control? (its not a rhetorical question, i’m genuinely asking lol) Or…is it something else?
 
I’ve asked this several times before but does a hard reboot really solve DC’s “problem?” How will a reboot fundamentally change how DC’s films are made? I think DC needs to take a hard look at the common denominator between Birds of Prey, Shazam, The Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman 84 and Black Adam and figure out why those films werent better received or performed better. All of those films were largely filmmaker driven so…does that mean the real problem is giving the filmmakers too much control? (its not a rhetorical question, i’m genuinely asking lol) Or…is it something else?

I think a lot of it is brand damage. BvS and SS damaged the brand to begin with. Wonder Womam and Aquaman were aberrations. SS killed Birds of Prey and TSS. WW has arguably killed a future Gal WW film too.

Too many misfires, and too many big misfires at the start. The franchise was so inconsistent in tone and quality.
 
There is nothing left but to reboot it. It's got nowhere to go as it exists now.
 
It's easy to say that the DCU is a mess, so reboot it. But what if they reboot it with different stupid ****? If they don't have a good cohesive exciting plan, all the rebooting in the world isn't going to help.
 
It's easy to say that the DCU is a mess, so reboot it. But what if they reboot it with different stupid ****? If they don't have a good cohesive exciting plan, all the rebooting in the world isn't going to help.

No, but it is a necessary step. Yeah, they might still blow it. But we know for sure what they are currently doing isn’t working.
 
Hard Rebooting an entire universe of films was going to happen at some point in the future, so it's inevitable in that sense.

Still though, the undertaking will be much more of an uphill climb ,and challenge, and not as easy as the discourse in fandom makes it out to be.

Rebooting the whole thing doesn't guarantee that all of the films will receive a better to great reception, actors who automatically be embraced in roles by General Audiences, or that all films , casting, and writing, will hit the mark .

There's the ideal results , and then there's the real results, and we don't know how things will end up shaking out, and how these films will be received by audiences.

That remains to be seen.

That said , if the final decision is to hard reboot everything , I'll wait and see what Gunn and Co give us.
 
I dont know to be honest, reboot yes...but im more for a Medium Reboot.

Like there is good stuff there, you got Margot Robbie who does a great job as harley, Peacemaker is great, i want ww3 to happen, shazam 3, aquaman 3, cavill deserves a chance etc.

Put this in some kind of Black Label or so department and make it elseworld stories...but then, we need a clear direction with the whole thing.

So in the end...i think yeah, a hard reboot is the best possible choice no matter what we lose.
 
I’m a fan of the Snyder Trilogy/’verse. In fact, it’s because I’m a fan that I’m dubious about any sort of soft or vague reboot. I figure such an effort will retroactively confuse and/or taint the prior narrative. Better, therefore, to start fresh with a blank slate — new approach, new actors, new continuity, etc.

So, a hard reboot with a unified universe it is!

Well… except for Reeves’ Batman and Phillips’ Joker. Also… except for The Flash, Aquaman 2 and other projects that are already bought and paid for. And of course, if any of those turns out to be a monster at the box office, we might need to talk about sequels. But after those run their course, then it’s hard reboot time. :cool:
 
Hell yeah to a hard reboot.

Draft a big, cohesive plan for future projects; cherry pick whichever actors that they want; have an actual plan; keep Reevesverse separate on Earth-Two; have an actual plan and DC will be alright.

Maybe.
 
I’ve asked this several times before but does a hard reboot really solve DC’s “problem?” How will a reboot fundamentally change how DC’s films are made? I think DC needs to take a hard look at the common denominator between Birds of Prey, Shazam, The Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman 84 and Black Adam and figure out why those films werent better received or performed better. All of those films were largely filmmaker driven so…does that mean the real problem is giving the filmmakers too much control? (its not a rhetorical question, i’m genuinely asking lol) Or…is it something else?

I think a lot of it is brand damage. BvS and SS damaged the brand to begin with. Wonder Womam and Aquaman were aberrations. SS killed Birds of Prey and TSS. WW has arguably killed a future Gal WW film too.

Too many misfires, and too many big misfires at the start. The franchise was so inconsistent in tone and quality.
Agreed. The GA don't know or care about how a film is made. The final product needs to be good, to be marketed well and have a hook for the audience. Franchises have the hook part already down when they are well received to date. WB haven't made DC into a brand where people are instantly interested regardless of property, and for now actually carry negative baggage. The Nolan sequels were director-driven films within a sub-franchise that has a much better reputation while the earlier MCU films were not as director-driven but still within a franchise with a good reputation. The common element is the good reputation which helped create the hype.
 
Sounds like Reeves is being left alone.

So yeah, this is my preferred option.
 
If they plan is to get away from the DCEU, but you keep one or two characters, then you aren't truly getting away from it.

I think WW was the first causality of the plan.
IF Aquaman and Flash were not basically already finished, they would prolly be canceled as well.

I think cavill is done but not superman.
I'm guessing we will get a reboot with a younger superman and another ( yet again ) origin story.

As for as Batman, if Reeve's Batman is going to be left alone, not connected to the DCU, does that mean we will have a different Batman in the connected universe or no Batman at all...( I can't imagine that )
 
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They could just forget Batman and use other characters to kickstart this new universe. Let Reeves do his own thing for the next 6 years or so. Once Reeves' trilogy is over, re-introduce Batman to the DCU. You can even give an in-universe explanation for Batman's absence.
 
I'll have to say a hard reboot. Recast everybody and gather the characters to the same world and same timeline.
 
Hard reboot or soft, I wouldn't concern myself too much w/ the nomenclature of it all. We'll basically have a revised continuity whereby the main roster of Snyderverse actors (Cavill, Affleck, et al.) is recast; but as Gunn values relationships (even with his new role calling for decisions that may or may not conflict w/ his filmmaking sensibilities), I think he'll still use Cena's Peacemaker and possibly even Robbie's Harley Quinn, among others, in the new DCU.

Reeves and Phillips' respective Batman and Joker universes will continue to exist outside of said continuity but at the same time still fall under the larger DC Studios umbrella.

With that being said, if everything originating with the Snyderverse— and I do mean EVERYTHING — goes, I'd be fine with that. As much as I've enjoyed some of those films and character portrayals, it's time.

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