X-Files 3

[Teelie]

I'd like to see another X-Files but I do hope the story is better than the last one. There was so much potential material from the series to revisit or new ideas they could've used and we got the Russian plot with body and organ snatching instead?

 

[Lord]

X-files was onto the whole 2012 thing way earlier than the rest of pop-culture. If they do have a film out by next year, and its not involving the colonization plot, that would be an absolute wasted opportunity.

Exactly

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

This is very true. X files did get the 2012 fad kick started for sure.

The second film wasnt bad but it was more of a standalone thing. People were expecting more conspiracy mythology that moved the mythos forward. Thats why it was dissapointing but it wasnt bad.

Now it all seems like the only people holding back are Fox. It looks like Chris Carter, GA and DD have been down with continuing w the Xfiles for a while but they havent been so convinced. A third Xfiles movie that deals with the colonization plot will gather attention and it could serve as a shot in the arm for this franchise. Hell shows like Fringe which basically is the Xfiles with some changes are killing it out there. I hope Fox understands that there are new generations of fans out there. Old and new they are all waiting for more high quality Xfiles.

Lets hope it happens guys.

 

[Lord]

Fringe is a quality show, and very well writen too, but what it did along with others like supernatural was already done by x-files years ago.
The problem with a colonisation movie are the tons of movies with alien invasions and recently i must say that the only that i liked from this year was Transformers 3, and it wasn't even a great movie.
The tv shows with a monster of the week structure are dieing, unfortunatelly policial and medical shows are doing fine with a similar structure

 

[DocHoliday]

I'd be up for another X-Files conspiracy flick.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

The second film wasnt bad but it was more of a standalone thing. People were expecting more conspiracy mythology that moved the mythos forward. Thats why it was dissapointing but it wasnt bad.

No, speaking for myself, but i bet a lot of fans were like this, I knew it was just gonna be a one off type movie, with nothing to do with the conspiracy, and was quite happy to see what they gave us, esp considering I didn't expect to see another X-Files movie at all.

and what we got was a very bland, flat, and as a result, annoying movie, with a Mulder and Scully who seemed to have the spark drained out from them.

It was a crap movie, that's why we didn't like it, thankyewverymuch.

 

[Teelie]

The second film wasnt bad but it was more of a standalone thing. People were expecting more conspiracy mythology that moved the mythos forward. Thats why it was dissapointing but it wasnt bad.

Yeah it was a standalone. So much so you could've renamed the characters and otherwise have a movie that was still coherent and completely unrelated to the X-Files mythos. It was nice to see Scully, Mulder and Skinner again but there was nothing distinctly "them" for this to really tie into. It was at it's base a body snatcher movie. It wasn't that it was a bad movie, it just wasn't an X-Files movie.

 

[redhawk23]

This theoretical movie wouldn't have to be such an outright invasion flick though, or at least not the kind that we've had over the past few years. It'd be hard to pull off at this point, but wasn't the colonization set for Christmas time, at mass national distraction?

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Yeah it was a standalone. So much so you could've renamed the characters and otherwise have a movie that was still coherent and completely unrelated to the X-Files mythos. It was nice to see Scully, Mulder and Skinner again but there was nothing distinctly "them" for this to really tie into. It was at it's base a body snatcher movie. It wasn't that it was a bad movie, it just wasn't an X-Files movie.

I thought it was what you would call a genuinely bad movie.

I have watched many crappy movies, and got some enjoyment out of them, but with this one it was like, once it hit the second half of the film, i couldn't wait for it to be over, it was giving me a sore head kind of thing.

I guess that could be something to do with being frustrated by it, me being so used to being engrossed in the X-Files, it being the first new material in years, and thinking 'this? this is what they came up with?', as well as the idea and the dynamics of the film bringing absolutely no tension or thrills whatsoever.

It was nice at first to see Mulder and Scully again, but then it just got a bit depressing, seeing them reduced to a crappy movie, and Skinner was put in as an afterthought cameo.

the thing is, the idea could have made for a decent enough single episode, it was 'X-Files' material, but it wasn't good enough to be stretched out into a movie/2 episode job.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

No, speaking for myself, but i bet a lot of fans were like this, I knew it was just gonna be a one off type movie, with nothing to do with the conspiracy, and was quite happy to see what they gave us, esp considering I didn't expect to see another X-Files movie at all.

and what we got was a very bland, flat, and as a result, annoying movie, with a Mulder and Scully who seemed to have the spark drained out from them.

It was a crap movie, that's why we didn't like it, thankyewverymuch.

Well I personally do not know what the situation was at the time as I just became an xfiles fan this year. I guess from my point of view when I saw it recently, I felt the movie was like one of their non mythos eps. I felt it was ok as a movie but unspectacular. The distance from the mythos I did not like. Skinner should have been used more for sure. As an Xfiles movie it could have been better because we have high expectations from the quality the show usually carries.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Fringe is a quality show, and very well writen too, but what it did along with others like supernatural was already done by x-files years ago.
The problem with a colonisation movie are the tons of movies with alien invasions and recently i must say that the only that i liked from this year was Transformers 3, and it wasn't even a great movie.
The tv shows with a monster of the week structure are dieing, unfortunatelly policial and medical shows are doing fine with a similar structure

Yeah for sure. Fringe and Supernatural (being good shows on their own) fill the void the Xfiles left and they are basically using the same formula.

You are right. They would have to go for a different and maybe more paranoid approach to the colonization. A style thats conspiracy fueled than independence day blow up the white house kinda ish.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Well I personally do not know what the situation was at the time as I just became an xfiles fan this year. I guess from my point of view when I saw it recently, I felt the movie was like one of their non mythos eps. I felt it was ok as a movie but unspectacular. The distance from the mythos I did not like. Skinner should have been used more for sure. As an Xfiles movie it could have been better because we have high expectations from the quality the show usually carries.

I watched the whole show back when it was broadcast, and got the boxset of all the eps two Christmas' ago, I also got the dvd of the new movie that Cmas(1st time seeing it).

So i am well versed in the whole show, and I can safely say, in my own opinion, there was no episode of the show that was as bad as that movie, I'm just saying that's how i genuinely felt, it wasn't anything to do with expectations for any specific kind of story.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

I watched the whole show back when it was broadcast, and got the boxset of all the eps two Christmas' ago, I also got the dvd of the new movie that Cmas(1st time seeing it).

So i am well versed in the whole show, and I can safely say, in my own opinion, there was no episode of the show that was as bad as that movie, I'm just saying that's how i genuinely felt, it wasn't anything to do with expectations for any specific kind of story.

LOL Youre definitely well versed. No one is questioning your knowledge of the show. Were talking about our own personal opinions. Neither are fact. Its all good.

 

[Teelie]

I've seen worse episodes than this movie and it had been a while since I saw the characters and in some cases the actors so I probably have a softer view on it than others would.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

LOL Youre definitely well versed. No one is questioning your knowledge of the show. Were talking about our own personal opinions. Neither are fact. Its all good.

Eh, yeah, but you were saying that the fans who did not like the movie were only displeased because it was not alien/mythology based, so I was putting you right on that. I just didn't like the 2nd movie cause it was crap.

and as for the 2012 movie being anything like independance Day, there is no chance of that, even apart from them not having a budget like that kind of movie demands, remember in the 1st X-Files movie, when Mulder goes outside to pee, he pisses over an Independance Day poster that is stuck on the wall.

I honestly can't imagine what kind of shape they will bring to an alien invasion 2012 type movie, I think that will be a difficult write for Carter and co, to make it different from all the other alien type movies that have come in the wake of the X-files kickstarting the new wave of alien invasion films, and to make it a little more special than the usual mythology episodes.
At this point, I'd be happy with a movie that was as good as the great 2 ep mythology/alien eps, just to wrap things up with some quality.
They can do it, Carter tried something a bit different, was out of practice, and it fell on it's face, but I have faith he and some of the other regular writers can still come up with the goods.

 

[LokiDionysos]

The second movie wasn't so great imo, because as a standalone story it wasn't interesting enough to cover the timespan of a movie effectively. There was lots of pointless dialogue, and faroff lingering shots of snow to fill time(and some worthwhile character dialog stuff thrown in too) but the stakes also weren't high enough, and it turned out exactly like a weaker episode that got dragged out. The thing that gives it a pass for me is how there's a heavy focus in the subtext on Mulder and Scully's relationship, and we get to see that they are still in their weird pseudo-relationship. You can tell there are still all those feelings there. The Mulder-Scully partnership and development of their sort of romantic coupling as the series progressed has always been one of my favorite almost-love stories in tv or movies.

I really think it was purposely designed as that much of a disconnected standalone film to focus on the characters, just to give them that little break between the mythos installments, to figure out the next step in the story. And, that after the second movie they always intended to go back to the colonization/2012 conspiracy story. Gillian was even mentioning the 2012 storyline in that recent interview, so I'm pretty sure that's what we'll see but hopefully they'll weave some other elements into the story so it isn't the full on invasion type movie. I'm actually hoping for a story that includes Mulder turning against, and taking action against, corrupt members of the government working for the aliens or something.

I really hope they do go with the idea that the series alludes to of it happening on christmas or a holiday 2012 though, under the guise of a national emergency and martial law declared by FEMA.

 

[THANOSRULES]

It was fairly low budget, and the actors really pushed the film due to their career situations...

Really the Alien conspiracy got confusing and intimidating, not to mention so much time passed between the films that they thought many people would forget.

Honestly it was a sound Idea, make a "good psycological/ slightly supernatural" crime story that will attract the most fans...

I can ask 10 die hard x-files fans to explain the alien conspiracy and I probably will get 10 different answers, it got pretty muddled.

 

[Lord]

2012 closing by and it seems like the chances of this film happening are becoming lower, X-Files may pretty much be a classic show that will never have the ending it deserved, really, most answers remain unanswered, x-files 2 may have killed the chances of this film

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

2012 closing by and it seems like the chances of this film happening are becoming lower, X-Files may pretty much be a classic show that will never have the ending it deserved, really, most answers remain unanswered, x-files 2 may have killed the chances of this film

Aye, you're right, it may well have. I read that Fox were willing to greenlight a sequel, because the second movie made enough money, but I guess it all depends on the people involved and if they want to try and make it work out, so, who knows what will happen. It won't mean the aliens will invade the planet if they don't. Duchovny will always find a way of getting work.

 

[Destructus86]

if they don't do anthoer movie...then how about either rebooting the series or better yet...a new spin off series?
They could even include cameos from past cast members.

 

[Webhead2006]

So what 2012 almost here they can always still do a movie.

 

[jonathancrane]

With the "Avengers" coming out this year, the alien invasion premise will have used the last of its dramatic mileage. If Carter and Company pursue the angle, they should avoid depicting any military engagements with the creatures, as audiences will have become tired of it. Instead, they should scale back the film so it captures the paranoia that shaded the show and should focus on a domestic menace (pod people, as rendered through the X-Files?) Or, at the very least, should create a new Aien Bounty Hunter or Super Soldier and have them serving the New Syndicate. Along with capturing paranoia, they should tone down the horror aspects, if they want this to be a blockbuster.
A potentially successful narrative would have a prologue set during the time when Arthur Dales opened up the X-Files, and have the plot introduced in the prologue have rammifications in the present, with nods to the actions of the original Syndicate.
They also need to have Mulder either reinstated or as a fulltime consultant for the X-Files. Having him return, cleared of charges, would not be a stretch, considering that large feats have been done, to significant success.
They also need to replenish Mulder's motivation: having him find his sister in Season 5 was terrific, but it stole his reasons for continuing with the X-Files (after all, continuing undermines the thesis presented in "Quagmire".) I am not suggesting they retcon the discovery, but find a potent reason for him to continue. In addtion, they should include the following:
1. The Theme. Not a variant or cover by the band, but it in the intro credits.
2. A New Government Contact.
3. Skinner having a larger role.
4. Lone Gunmen Replacements.
5. A shot of Mulder chasing a suspect with a gun in his hand, his coat billowing behind him.
6. More sequences inside of Washington DC and the outlying areas, having the ratio of it and outside scenes = > 50%.

Now, I believe these would help - along with a good script - to revitalize the franchise.
What I would really enjoy - as a selfish fan - is the return of CGB Spender.

 

[Lord]

I just realised now, that 2012 will also mark the 20th anniversary of the show, i really hope they do something.
And if they can't do something action oriented like with ID4, then they should follow the Super 8 formula, a good script, good characters, a story that keeps people interested, and etc.

Alien abductions before the all out colonization could serve as a lead in to the main events, and the entire colonization, and possible entire failure of that operation may be only seen by the protagonists instead of having to show entire set pieces of the fight.

 

[scifiwolf]

Actually, 2013 marks the 20th anniversary.

 

[Primal Slayer]

They need to do one last movie to sum up the franchise before it gets softbooted on tv.