Comics X-Men: Civil War - Which Side are you on?

[SMroxs]

In this first issue- I can't believe Cyclops didn't optic blast Bishop into next Tuesday when Bishop covered Cyke's mouth with his hand when he was trying to speak! Although I suppose Bishop would've just absorbed it so a punch to the face would've worked better. Cyke is the head of the institute now and the X-Men's leader, you don't shoosh him.

I'm a little confused as to how exactly the government views mutants in this whole registration mess. Iron Man made the point to Wolverine that techincally all mutants are already registered with the government because of O*N*E and M-Day. If that's the case then there's really nothing to debate because all the remaining mutant's identities are already known to the government. The only issue would be that if the X-Men still want to be a super hero team then they'd need to "train" with the feds. Not like the X-Men need training at this point...

I thought Emma made an extremely good point to Iron Man in Civil War #3. Where were the Avengers and the other heroes when Genosha was demolished? Everyone makes a big deal out of Stamford (not that it isn't), but compare the 600 humans in Stamford who died to the millions of mutants in Genosha and you can see how the response isn't equitable. Apparently the death of 600 humans means more than the death all those mutants at the hands of human-built machines.

 

[ultimategambit]

if u read new x-men#28u get a better idea of y the x-men are staying out of this fight, emma frost and val cooper have a long conversation on y they are staying out, she even gets into vals mind and takes her back to genosha and the tragedy that recently happened in new x-men the converstation that she had with tony stark is what she pretty much tells val cooper but it does no justice to y they are stayin out, u should pick up that issue to see the exact reason y they are stayin out, and it makes alot of sense so i would highly recomend that u read it

 

[Colossal Spoons]

^That was Carol, not Val. Val was on TV.

In this first issue- I can't believe Cyclops didn't optic blast Bishop into next Tuesday when Bishop covered Cyke's mouth with his hand when he was trying to speak! Although I suppose Bishop would've just absorbed it so a punch to the face would've worked better. Cyke is the head of the institute now and the X-Men's leader, you don't shoosh him.

I'm a little confused as to how exactly the government views mutants in this whole registration mess. Iron Man made the point to Wolverine that techincally all mutants are already registered with the government because of O*N*E and M-Day. If that's the case then there's really nothing to debate because all the remaining mutant's identities are already known to the government. The only issue would be that if the X-Men still want to be a super hero team then they'd need to "train" with the feds. Not like the X-Men need training at this point...

I thought Emma made an extremely good point to Iron Man in Civil War #3. Where were the Avengers and the other heroes when Genosha was demolished? Everyone makes a big deal out of Stamford (not that it isn't), but compare the 600 humans in Stamford who died to the millions of mutants in Genosha and you can see how the response isn't equitable. Apparently the death of 600 humans means more than the death all those mutants at the hands of human-built machines.

Scott hasn't been very leader-y since Charles left. He obviously gets no respect since Bishop did shoosh him. Emma wears that pants in their relationship and at the school.

The whole Stamford vs Genosha thing is definately making me lean way more towards being Anti-SHRA. As if Tony isn't acting like a dick enough, this is just hyporcisy at it's finest.

 

[Valechan]

Goddess!! I am the only one who voted pro-registration... That's cool with me because he:

Is on teh same side I am

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok, wait till Sentry shows up; you know he's anti-SHRA.

 

[SMroxs]

if u read new x-men#28u get a better idea of y the x-men are staying out of this fight

I did read this issue and it was very good. Emma's conversation with Ms. Marvel (not Val) was poignant, especially when she pointed out that a bus load of mutant-turned-human students had been killed and there was no public outcry or show of support from other heroes. Again it just goes to show that even among the super heroes there are still levels of segregation. Iron Man wants a show of support from the mutants to serve his purposes but he hasn't been there to support them.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to Bishop at the end of this. He isn't currently slotted on any team, so maybe he'll be leaving the X-Men? I could see him end up over on New Avengers with Tony "The Tool" Iron Man, who is apparently his new BFF.

As for Thor joining this little fight... I hope Hercules or someone of equal strength gives him a good a$$ whooping. How do you even approach a god to get him to register anyway? It's not like entities like Thor, Herc or the Eternals are exactly bound to any country or mortal law. They can't even die... conventionally.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Thor vs Sentry. I call it. Herc isn't powerful enough to deal with Thor's lightning. I too, am curious about how they convinced Thor to join SHIELD though.

 

[SMroxs]

I can see that... Thor vs. Sentry. And my money would definitely be on Sentry.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh yeah, and he's most likely gonna be anti-SHRA.

 

[GyLocke]

I just read X-men Civil War 1, and it just reminded me how much I love the X-men's "steet uniforms". It's great to see them back.

 

[Superbeasto]

Goddess!! I am the only one who voted pro-registration... That's cool with me because he:

Is on teh same side I am

Im pro registration too

 

[Superbeasto]

I just finished "X-Men Civil War #1"and it was cool to see that Cyclops and the team are not supporting Iron Man neither Captain America, they are trying to protect those mutants who leaved the mansion, and because of that the goverment is going to treath them like criminals??? I support the SHRA but some of their supporters are missing the point. I like Civil War so far.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I was wondering if there were any 100% Pro-SHRA peopel out there. So far, I've only seen those opposed and those undecided. What Emma said about nobody making this much fuss over Genosha but wanting to go all out for Stamford is a bit prejudice and hypocritical.

 

[Superbeasto]

And who the hell does F#%$ing Bishop think he is???, putting a hand on cyclops, he is the freaking leader

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Cyclops is leader INO, he's such a sissy. I wish he would stay like he is in Astonishing forever. good and catatonic.

 

[Mike059jig]

Cyclops is leader INO, he's such a sissy. I wish he would stay like he is in Astonishing forever. good and catatonic.

Cyclops not a freaking Sissy...Cyclops is not gonna say in Catonic state for long anyway...Did you miss the Issue with him and Xavier Uncanny 476???...Did you actually read what Cyclops said to Bishop or are we Exploiting the End of the conversation a little too much...and who was the one walking away at the end of the conversation??..oh and did you pick up X-factor civil war??? is that bad ass enough for you?If he's such a Sissy why is he going up agianst the registration act...Its just one Issue people....calm down

 

[Colossal Spoons]

1. I heard what he said to Bishop and it would have made more of an impact if he said it with some base in his voice and little backbone.

2. Bishop walked away....and? After you punk the "leader" of the team, I see no point in lingering around.

3. I picked up X-Factor and you know what I saw? Madrox making Scott look like an ass.

4. Scott's not against the SHRA; he's neutral....did you read X-Factor after you picked it up?

This whole week, I saw Emma putting people in their places left and right while Scott did the dishes

 

[GL1]

Cyclops is leader INO, he's such a sissy. I wish he would stay like he is in Astonishing forever. good and catatonic.

Cyclops wasn't a sissy until Singer made him one, and then Morrisson supported that take on the character. Cyclops has been badass for years until some bloke who couldn't handle an honourable nice guy stepped in...

That said, Bishop had the emotional upperhand, Cyclops has seen part of the future and he knew, deep down, that Bishop was right, Cyclops has no leverage to lecture Bishop about the future. Cyclops isn't a little kid, he doesn't start fights just because he's wrong.

And it made Bishop kinda cool, even though they shouldn't build up characters by tearing down others.

That said, Who the heck is gonna side with Bishop?

And they better have him on a team when this is all said and done. It's bad enough what DC isn't doing with John Stewart...

 

[Mike059jig]

3. I picked up X-Factor and you know what I saw? Madrox making Scott look like an ass.

Must of been reading two different books cuase thats not what I say..let me see..Emma had a talk with Tony..Scott had a talk with Carol..Emma came in Aggreviated then let loose then cried...Scott went X-factor to see what going down their..Scott had conversations with bishop and Mardrox...Emma conversations with Carol and Iron man..and he is going after the 198 and leaving Emma behind...Yet Scott washing Dishes

 

[Superbeasto]

Cyclops wasn't a sissy until Singer made him one, and then Morrisson supported that take on the character. Cyclops has been badass for years until some bloke who couldn't handle an honourable nice guy stepped in...

That said, Bishop had the emotional upperhand, Cyclops has seen part of the future and he knew, deep down, that Bishop was right, Cyclops has no leverage to lecture Bishop about the future. Cyclops isn't a little kid, he doesn't start fights just because he's wrong.

And it made Bishop kinda cool, even though they shouldn't build up characters by tearing down others.

That said, Who the heck is gonna side with Bishop?

And they better have him on a team when this is all said and done. It's bad enough what DC isn't doing with John Stewart...

Thats right, Ice-man, Angel, Beast and Cyclops are the ones risking themselves against the goverment, and Cyclops is leading them, Emma stays at the mansion, wait for the next issue to come out, and we will see the original x-men with Cyclops as their leader and taking the shots.

 

[rjb182]

Just read X-Men: Civil War #1 and, although I like the setup of the original X-Men out on their own and Emma, Bishop, and Domino all had their cool moments, I wasn't terribly impressed.

Maybe it's 'cause I haven't been closely following the 198 plotline, missing that mini and choosing to wait until they changed creative teams to pick up Uncanny and regular X-Men on a monthly basis again, but this whole thing seems a little bizarre.

I thought the 198 were there for their own protection. But from this issue... they can't leave if they choose? So it's basically an internment camp? And everybody's okay with that? Bishop even wants to bring them BACK?!

I'm one of the few who is pro-registration in the main Civil War, but this seems to go way beyond the issues at stake in Civil War. If regular heroes were getting treated like the mutants do in this issue, I'd change my vote and follow Cap.

What really should have happened after that riot, instead of Bishop yelling at some people and Cyke going on a road trip, is the whole team should have taken a long look around and said: "How did it ever come to this?"

And then they should have fried some Sentinels. Because frying Sentinels is fun, just on principle.

 

[Spectre722]

Ok, wait till Sentry shows up; you know he's anti-SHRA.

sentry's pro-reg. says it on marvel's website.

 

[f4faith]

Cyclops wasn't a sissy until Singer made him one, and then Morrisson supported that take on the character. Cyclops has been badass for years until some bloke who couldn't handle an honourable nice guy stepped in...

Well true but sadly Cyke has been pretty lame since he hooked with Emma - (ok maybe he was boring a bit with Jean but now he's just a whipped slug half the time). Bishop's comments about how she basically runs everything is true. And look how well that's helped the kids at the school. They are dropping like flies.

That said, Bishop had the emotional upperhand, Cyclops has seen part of the future and he knew, deep down, that Bishop was right, Cyclops has no leverage to lecture Bishop about the future.

More Cyke does not have leverage to lecture anyone about trying to work it out with ONE and allowing them to do with mutants as they decided. Everyone is getting on Bishop's case but really - who was it that was complicent in this mess the most until he suddenly does an about face in this issue? Cyclops. Everyone should remember that it was his dumb butt idea to open the school up as a place for mutants to come to and bascially set it up so that mutants would all be in one place to be watched over. Next he didn't do any objecting when they were monitored and not allowed to leave before yet all of a sudden here they finally rebel and suddenly he's all let's protect mutants rights cause that's what we do - well you sure weren't doing it before so don't give me the holier than thou idea now, and though I think Bishop's points are valid about how Cyke seems lost without Xavier and let's Emma make a lot of his decisions, Bishop really should have called him on the carpet for being the one who set this whole situation up in the first place, allowed it to build and then being wishy washy about it now and claiming the high ground. It wasn't the X-Men that stood up for the 198 decission to do as they pleased it was Domino and her group. I don't mind if Cyke changed his mind but really don't act like this was all his idea in the first place and now rush out to "help". If it had been left up to Cyke they would still be virtual prisoners until Domino, Cable, etc stepped in.

And it made Bishop kinda cool, even though they shouldn't build up characters by tearing down others.

But since when hasn't that been done? I can't count the times Wolverine gets to step on people's place and abilities to make him look good.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

More Civil War artwork:

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Must of been reading two different books cuase thats not what I say..let me see..Emma had a talk with Tony..Scott had a talk with Carol..Emma came in Aggreviated then let loose then cried...Scott went X-factor to see what going down their..Scott had conversations with bishop and Mardrox...Emma conversations with Carol and Iron man..and he is going after the 198 and leaving Emma behind...Yet Scott washing Dishes

What do you call it when Madrox uses Scott's beam to make multiples of himself instead of being defeated? You obviously like Scott a whole heap. Emma was this week's badass of the X-Men, sorry you can't see it.


Oh yeah, Emma likes it when Scott towel dries the pots and pans, thanks.