Sequels X-Men Live-Action TV Show in Development at Fox

[Eddie]

Well actually...

AoS absolutely featured a character that could have been a Mutant, and he even shared a codename with a character that was a Mutant in the comics, Scorch. His powers were never made 100% clear (they left it open that he may have simply been that way genetically, and in fact his genetics were used to perfect the Centipede formula), and he was on the show way before the Inhuman stuff. He probably wasn't an Inhuman. It was also established that S.H.I.E.L.D. was keeping various "gifted" under surveillance/arrest (for the villains) in the first season, and presumably none of them were Inhumans. They didn't even know about them. Friggin' Man-Thing and Griffin exist in the MCU according to AoS.

 

[Eddie]

Y'know, I was mostly being a faux conspiracy theorist with my tinfoil hat post...

and then I saw the new Deadpool spot. It featured a friggin' helicarrier. Uh, maybe something really is going on...

 

[2kt09]

Slow your roll?
Didn't even get a good glimpse of the cargo ship's side above a junk heap pile.

 

[Eddie]

Ryan Reynolds uploaded the spot to Youtube with a title that literally says "Is that a helicarrier?", so...

 

[ImSGirl95]

Ryan Reynolds uploaded the spot to Youtube with a title that literally says "Is that a helicarrier?", so...

Yeah, he did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFy7zZ12U8

Still, I don't know. I don't think this is a helicarrier. I think there will be an explanation or it will be a random cargo ship.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I wonder why Singer,Donnor,and Kinberg are executive producers on this
if shows have no connection to films.

This is going to like CW universe where characters from films can't be used
at all.

Inless Hellfire is connected to films my intrest in both shows was just
killed.

 

[ImSGirl95]

This is going to like CW universe where characters from films can't be used
at all.

Inless Hellfire is connected to films my intrest in both shows was just
killed.

Mmm.. I think it's worse than the CW universe.
Because Legion & Hellfire set in different time periods. Which means they will have literally zero connection between them. Unless the Club exists in Legion, I see them as two different shows in two different universes.

Yeah, I will watch them 100%, but now they look like some random mutant shows

 

[Sithborg]

I wonder why Singer,Donnor,and Kinberg are executive producers on this
if shows have no connection to films.

This is going to like CW universe where characters from films can't be used
at all.

Inless Hellfire is connected to films my intrest in both shows was just
killed.

In order to have their names on it. Not all producers do the same amount of work. Also, they could also see the benefit of having the shows separate. I mean, Supergirl is from the same producers as Arrow/Flash, and they aren't connected.

It is a pity people are more interested in connected universes than potentially good shows.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Jeph Loeb is probally executive producer in name only.

DC films do hurt the CW and supergirl shows.

Hellfire and legion had poential to expand the X_Men cinematic universe without turning into commercials for films like agents of shield.

based on this news i have to laugh at those who think fox secretly turned over FF to get these tv shows made.shows where X-Men will never be mentioned lol

the reason why X-Men name wasn't mentioned in press release makes sense now.

Hellfire may have lost it's showrunners because they thought a 24 reboot would have greater chace at success than sci fi show with no connection to X-Men films.

 

[Sithborg]

[looks at ratings of Flash/Arrow/Supergirl]

Sure, you just keep on thinking they are being hurt.

 

[ImSGirl95]

Supergirl will crossover with The Flash sooner or later.

 

[Ryan1210]

Kind of disappointed but we still have Noah Hawley being attached. The movie actors are not gonna show up anyway.

Now it's the Hellfire show that I'm worried about. There's no reason for it to be set in the parallel universe.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I have a feeling hellfire won't be in the film universe as it just seems like if legion isn't then to avoid confusion none of the tv shows FOX produce will be.

 

[Ryan1210]

Yeah, it's a shame now that Kevin Bacon and January Jones are on Fox now. Guess we'll have to wait and see (and lower our expectations).

 

[marvelrobbins]

I have a feeling hellfire won't be in the film universe, it just seems like if legion isn't then to avoid confusion none of the tv shows FOX produce will be

thing is why is Hellfire set in 1960's.if not set in X_Men universe that is strange
decsion.

as for ratings hellfire has to do better than arrow and the flash to survive on
Fox.

 

[psylockolussus]

I honestly don't mind that Legion isn't set in the same universe as the films. And I also won't mind if Hellfire isn't set in the same universe too though a backstory for the First Class' Hellfire Club would be really cool!

Anyway, I know they are doing this for some extra $$$, but I'd rather want them to stick to making movies.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Yeah, he did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFy7zZ12U8

Still, I don't know. I don't think this is a helicarrier. I think there will be an explanation or it will be a random cargo ship.

It's Apparently similar to a helicarrier but it isn't a helicarrier according to Tim Miller, he wants to make it clear this is not a helicarrier

http://screenrant.com/deadpool-director-tim-miller-interview-set-visit/

Spoiler

We were talking to the visual effects supervisor. What caught my interest here is obviously the helicarrier.

Tim Miller: It’s not a helicarrier.

Aircraft carrier with propellers….

Tim Miller: It’s clearly not a helicarrier…

[Laughs]

… Because that would violate the Marvel S.H.I.E.L.D. universe sort of thing.

That’s what I was going to ask. How was it decided?

Tim Miller: It’s not a helicarrier.

[Laughs] … That this vehicle would be in this film as a set piece?

Tim Miller: That would be me. But I think when you see the design for it, it’s not going to. And to be fair, there are Helicarrier-like vehicles in the X-Men universe. It’s not just S.H.I.E.L.D. that has them. So I think it’s fair game.

Look, Deadpool is all about… there’s the larger shiny Marvel universe where everybody has new gear and it’s all made of chrome and leather. And then there’s Deadpool. I think the world that he explores is a much seedier, everyday sort of ordinary type world. But he still lives in that universe. It still has to sit next to all these other films.

So I think the more we can bring that world into his world the better. But it has to be done in such a way that it feels Deadpool. So, what better way to do it than a decrepit carrier that’s being stripped for scrap? And it’s dirty, and grungy, and nasty. When you see the shots that are up on the flight deck of that ship, it’s obviously not up to S.H.I.E.L.D. spec in its design. It looks more like a World War 2 sort of technology with… some… turbo fans.

 

[Zarex]

based on this news i have to laugh at those who think fox secretly turned over FF to get these tv shows made.shows where X-Men will never be mentioned lol

The idea that Disney - DISNEY! - handed over character IP rights to a competitor in exchange for a minority stake in "Hellfire" and "Legion", increasing the competition in a ever crowded market of super hero programming, is an utter joke. But it is no surprise that a member of the cheerleading squad for the Razzie nominated Fant4stic is swallowing it.

 

[Eddie]

Uh... Legion not being part of Fox's established universe shows, if anything, that they're exploring bringing Mutants into other "universes". That they're doing this in a Marvel co-production is intriguing.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I honestly don't mind that Legion isn't set in the same universe as the films. And I also won't mind if Hellfire isn't set in the same universe too though a backstory for the First Class' Hellfire Club would be really cool!

Anyway, I know they are doing this for some extra $$$, but I'd rather want them to stick to making movies.

I really don't understand the reasoning behind these shows if they aren't
expanding the X-Men universe.

I mean are people really claiming for legion and hellfire shows with no reference to the X-men.setting hellfire in 1960's if not connected to first class
is even more puzzling.

 

[Eddie]

Legion is set in a world where Mutants have managed to stay hidden from the public. Some government officials know about them, though.

The main excuse for why Mutants wouldn't make sense in the MCU is that the public doesn't ever talk about Mutants. In Season One of AoS we see that the government (via S.H.I.E.L.D.) is keeping many powered individuals a secret (like Scorch and Man-Thing). Some of these individuals seem to have powers with no definite origin, though it's rare.

Nah... couldn't be.

 

[ImSGirl95]

Nah... couldn't be.

Couldn't be ... what?
It's obvious why there are no mutants in the MCU! lol It's because the word "mutant" can't be said lol
I mean, look, overall a "mutant" is a mutated person. Imagine Spider-Man facing a thief, and the thief is shocked at what Spidey can do, and yells "What are you? Some kind of a *****g mutant freak or something?" .. or "mutated cells" .. or "mutations".

See... that's what I mean. It may be weird that there aren't any mutants in the MCU. But it's weirder that the word "mutant" or "mutated" or something like that hasn't been said at all. With all the Extremis things in IM3, the TIH concept, and basically almost everything in the MCU ...

So, when the mutants happen to be in the MCU, then yeah, they will start to use the word, and mostly, the mutants won't be that large of a race (maybe First Class-large) that there will be mostly some kind of secret societies/clubs, etc ..
It's not that hard to picture.

So, if mutants happen

 

[Flint Marko]

I can't understand why they're moving forward with this if they're not going to connect to the films.

The idea that Disney - DISNEY! - handed over character IP rights to a competitor in exchange for a minority stake in "Hellfire" and "Legion", increasing the competition in a ever crowded market of super hero programming, is an utter joke. But it is no surprise that a member of the cheerleading squad for the Razzie nominated Fant4stic is swallowing it.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Same reason the DC shows are being made but have no connection to the movies I guess

Perhaps fox were not allowed to have their TV shows and movies in the same universe, I know many had this believe fox couldn't cross over F4 and X-men because of the contract with marvel

 

[Eddie]

They weren't allowed to make shows in the first place without Marvel. These are co-productions because of that. I don't think it's exactly the same thing as the DC thing, though.