X-Men - Part 8

[zenith16]

But in X-Men team books, you don't necessarily need to use legacy characters in order to sell. X-Men Blue sells less than Gold/Astonishing... Instead of the time displaced/alternate reality characters, you can just use the not time displaced original five, 616 Logan/Storm and those other under developed characters.

there 's a number of reason's thathappened with wolverine it's justthat the current & up & coming writer's at marvel have bad habit's and think their writing isn't strong enough to keep the book sale's and they think having wolverine in every book made their sales. and people complained back in the day when he was in ever book no matter the time line, ( mean when it take place not altanet relaitys) all at once. so alternate's came since he was supposelyd dead. and they didn't want break that bad habit of theirs. which I said often it show's how weak thos writers are these days .

the time displaced x-men were made in a way to replace the orginals it failed. no one want's that but marvel as they've shown are too stubborn . and they made it clear they won't send them back & lock the door to that on page and it was to some fans more then others. we can keep saying" send them back."
but they made clear to us on page there's no place to go home to for them.

the only alternative is to have reborn and have them live their own live and new paths of their own even if that mean's living as mutant out side the X men as some others have . which would be the preferable chose since it seem's a team book with isn't acceptable and maybe best to seperate them with the occasion meet up but to have them on other team's that aren't X-men from now on.


just have them reborn the same way scarlet witch's twin son's were and have them live out side of the X-men in the same way like the new warriors and champion's have have has other of shoot of humity ontheir teams. let's all move on change young jean name and let her keep dating mile's Morales and change young cyclop's name to David s. S and maybe he can date iron heart. and by make him yonug jean sibling's aLOT OF OTHER PROBLEMS END TOO.

THIS WAY THEY WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE OLDER ONE'S. NEVER TO REPEAT OR REPLACE THE THE ORIGINALS

that would be interesting for a change and never let THEM visit the X-men again. if that's such a problem they can help the dream on other team's and not be seen in the Xbooks it seem's EVER AGAIN

And J, H . Logan kid's it's about time he move on to other women and let jean be he has so many option's and those kid's represent that. I'm really thinking rose should be reincarnated via a wild storm universe character if that habit he picked up from thomas doesn't end. this way she won't die and he'll have the woman he's alway wanted and chased for so long.

 

[zenith16]

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[Mike Murdock]

But in X-Men team books, you don't necessarily need to use legacy characters in order to sell. X-Men Blue sells less than Gold/Astonishing... Instead of the time displaced/alternate reality characters, you can just use the not time displaced original five, 616 Logan/Storm and those other under developed characters.

However, the book with new, original characters with no legacy ties was Generation X. I don't disagree with the idea that the old characters sell. My point is that new characters don't sell unless they're legacy characters.

 

[zenith16]

However, the book with new, original characters with no legacy ties was Generation X. I don't disagree with the idea that the old characters sell. My point is that new characters don't sell unless they're legacy characters.

I doubt that. then again alot of fans were burnt out with alot of cool orginal charaters being killed on mass . and there aren't as many reader's as it used ot be back in the day. this might be misinterpreted where thelagacy character are involved .

 

[Mad Ones]

X-men Red is seriously what the X-books needed. It's a mixture of new and old dynamics, it's a meaningful commentary, and each issue leaves me wanting more more more. I'm honestly praying that [BLACKOUT]Storm[/BLACKOUT] joins the team. The cliffhanger left me gagging. This issue gets a 10/10 from me and I don't normally rate issues haha.

X-men Blue is... I honestly don't know what to say about Blue. It's clear that Bunn is a good writer and there is a serious fun factor about this mothervine storyline. Magneto had a badass moment that gave me chills. The way Bunn writes Emma is holding the series back for me. I don't know what she's thinking and it feels like more character assassination. But regardless, I'm gonna read this as long as Daken is in it lol.

I tried Exiles as well. It was a somewhat awkward first issue, with the talus feeling very contrived and I did not like Nick-Fury-Watcher-Whatever. I'll give it another issue because I wanna know who Blink is a bit better, and I like Khan and Iron Lad. Valkyrie wasn't in this issue, and she is kind of a selling point for me.

If Gold and Blue are going to last past issue 30 I have a few requests:
- Replace Guggenheim with Kelly Thompson on Gold.
- Make the new rosters permanent (Polaris, Daken, Nightshade, Bloodstorm, and Xorn in Blue and Iceman, Magik, Rogue, Armour, and new Pyro in Gold.
- Drop Ink and Jimmy.

Between Red, New Mutants, Rogue and Gambit, All New Wolverine, and (sometimes) Blue, I am really enjoying the X-books.

 

[Havok83]

The Gold roster is terrible IMO. Id rather the book be canned but if it must say do a complete overhaul

I suspected that that person would be the friend turned foe and I cant wait to see the battle with Jean. That should be GOOD

 

[psylockolussus]

Dazzler, Warpath, Colossus, Beast and Havok are the Astonishing X-Men.

 

[psylockolussus]

However, the book with new, original characters with no legacy ties was Generation X. I don't disagree with the idea that the old characters sell. My point is that new characters don't sell unless they're legacy characters.

Well I am not asking for a new solo book. Anyway, they could create new characters and lump them with the big stars and build them through the years and in the films/TV shows. The o5, multiple Wolverines and Bloodstorm are just boring to me.

 

[Havok83]

Why can’t we get rid of Land?

 

[Mad Ones]

Great team but, yeah, Land sucks. I hate looking at his Dazzler, who I would otherwise be stoked to see on a team.

 

[Weather Witch]

I really love the current Astonishing line-up, and I'm not sure how I feel about the new line-up tbh. Hope they can retain the quality of the current run.

 

[Havok83]

I really love the current Astonishing line-up, and I'm not sure how I feel about the new line-up tbh. Hope they can retain the quality of the current run.

that shouldnt be too hard considering the quality has dropped since the first issue

 

[Sithborg]

Good to see Rosenberg get a new book. Not happy with Land, though he has shown some effort the past few times I read a book he was an artist on. Like the lineup for the most part, kind of curious how the inversion of Alex.

 

[Weather Witch]

that shouldnt be too hard considering the quality has dropped since the first issue

It's still miles ahead of gold and blue imho.

 

[Mike Murdock]

It's weird that Astonishing was marketed as a Maxi series and now is continuing. Also a bit weird how all the Inhumans writers get to "graduate" to an X-Book. Can we get Al Ewing an Excalibur book now?

 

[Havok83]

It's still miles ahead of gold and blue imho.

Gold yes, Blue no

 

[Mad Ones]

I don't think Astonishing's quality has dropped. It seemed like a lot of people wanted to treat it as a flagship, but it really isn't. It's just telling a fun adventure story with fan favourite characters.

I've kinda changed my mind on Rosenberg's Astonishing team. He's writing an awesome New Mutants mini and he'll be writing that Madrox mini series. He seemed primed to write an X-Factor relaunch, with some of the more quirky B and C listers. This Astonishing team has one woman and one person of colour, which really makes me meh on it.

 

[Sithborg]

There is still one secret team member.

 

[Havok83]

I don't think Astonishing's quality has dropped. It seemed like a lot of people wanted to treat it as a flagship, but it really isn't. It's just telling a fun adventure story with fan favourite characters.

I've kinda changed my mind on Rosenberg's Astonishing team. He's writing an awesome New Mutants mini and he'll be writing that Madrox mini series. He seemed primed to write an X-Factor relaunch, with some of the more quirky B and C listers. This Astonishing team has one woman and one person of colour, which really makes me meh on it.

I definitely wasnt looking at it as the flagship. It clear thats Gold. AXM has had bad pacing issues and has been dragging. I hate how slow it is, especially compared to the rest of the line. The fact that it has a new artist every month should have made this biweekly to speed things up. The art is a crapshoot. Sometimes its good but there have been some bad work on it as well. I dont think Soule is really doing anything interesting with the characters and its a shame so many of them are isolated to this book

 

[Mad Ones]

Rogue is in four books, including Astonishing. Gambit and OLM pop up in lots of places. If Bishop, Psylocke, Angel, and Mystique weren't being used here I doubt we'd see them anywhere else in this phase of comics.

 

[Havok83]

Rogue is in four books, including Astonishing. Gambit and OLM pop up in lots of places. If Bishop, Psylocke, Angel, and Mystique weren't being used here I doubt we'd see them anywhere else in this phase of comics.

Psylocke and Angel are the ones I care about and had they not been in this, they'd have been in Blue along with Mystique. Bunn was forced to give them up bc of AXM. He set up plots which he had to drop

 

[Mad Ones]

Why were Rogue, Gambit, and OML allowed on multiple books but Psylocke, Angel, and Mystique weren't?

 

[Havok83]

Why were Rogue, Gambit, and OML allowed on multiple books but Psylocke, Angel, and Mystique weren't?

I dont know. Im not Marvel's X-editor

 

[Mad Ones]

Marvel editorial can be so stupid. I'm still pissed that they wouldn't let Grace use Emma in Iceman because she was too busy getting wasted by Bunn.

 

[Havok83]

Marvel editorial can be so stupid. I'm still pissed that they wouldn't let Grace use Emma in Iceman because she was too busy getting wasted by Bunn.

Which made no sense since she was in Jean Grey and PR, and her appearances there contradicted each other