Superboy getting a "super flurry of punches move" in doesn't make him an interesting character.
That wasn't why I made a statement. I was merely stating how it was amusing when sometimes characters who aren't speedsters get to have "power feats" involving super-speed like Superboy.
In a superhero action series, stuff like that is certainly the icing on the cake. And let's be honest; few people eat cake without icing.
How do you know the RA-Sportsmaster fight "wasn't for show"
. Also this harkins back to what I keep saying. You make it sound like Sportsmaster soundly defeated Wally. He didn't, he just got a lucky shot in. Wally wasn't knocked out from that. For all you know if the fight had went longer. Sportsmaster might've had trouble with Wally. Saying Sportsmaster outright beat Wally there, is like saying the "Ciclops guy" (can't remember his name, sorry), beat Conner just because in Insecurity he spotted Conner and blasted him a distance, but he wasn't beat, just shoved aside momentarily.
That character's name is Professor Ojo. He actually usually reminds me of Triclops from "He-Man" a little. His name's harder to remember than the guy with the hook who was named...Hook. Sometimes names come easy to comic book writers. The difference in your analogy is that Superboy does ultimately defeat Ojo in "INFILTRATOR". Heck, Superboy stomps him again in "TERRORS". It's definitive. There's no "well, if the fight lasted longer and circumstances didn't happen and etc". with that.
Admittedly I am aware Sportsmaster is more of a top tier villain; few characters fare well against him. I'd argue Red Arrow's fared the best against him out of everyone who's ever attempted to battle him one on one, including his own daughter. It wasn't a lucky shot, though; Sportsmaster anticipated his speed and reacted with his move. As I said, I really liked "USUAL SUSPECTS"; in some ways more than "AULD ACQUAINTANCES". Kid-Flash's contribution there was minimal is all. He's really there for that last scene with Artemis, which is admittedly good.
I suppose it is part of the contrast of how the show handles certain relationships. Even when they're no longer a couple and Miss Martian's had a power boost and a shift in psychic morality (such as in "EARTHLINGS"), she's still sporadically a damsel in distress who needs Conner to rescue her, and he always does (often with a bellow). Artemis isn't a damsel even when she is in trouble, which is good because Kid-Flash's assistance to her usually isn't physical. Wally isn't quite the "macho guy" the same way as Conner is, which is good since when he tries he can't back it up. He's best for emotional support or science exposition.
Obviously were watching different shows because I've seen episodes where non-powered villains have been shown to be able to hold their own against Conner. Or do you not remember Sportsmasters first appearance?
I did. Sportsmaster took out both Superboy and Miss Martian. I addressed that above; perhaps I was being harsh because Sportsmaster is a top tier villain; NOBODY ever gets to actually defeat him outright without some cheap shot from someone else to justify it. The difference is Superboy usually gets to steamroll over other notable or at least named opponents.
You act as if that's all there is to him.
A sense of humor is usually one of those consistent character traits which appears in all of Wally's appearances in animation. As we have noted, there are differences between Kid-Flash here and Flash of "JL/U" in various regards. Another consistency is both seem to have accepting hearts in the end; there was even a subplot in "JL/U" where Flash was akin to the founders' moral center and without him they become corrupted or at risk for corruption - even Batman. Naturally each version has their own traits to them; Wally in "YJ" uses science exposition more.
I've already pointed out ad nauseum why Wally is not just a spare body on the field or how he didn't do some of that "clumsy stuff" later on (guess that doesn't count for development unless the show spells it out for us?
), so I'm not going to even bother.
Most times in team missions Kid-Flash at best clears house with minions. The problem is that's the standard requirement of any superhero of any team show ever. It in of itself isn't special or notable; beating minions is akin to waking up in the morning. It would be the lack of it which would be so. He also sits out a few episodes towards the latter half of the first season. That is what I meant by "spare body", at least physically. The science exposition does come in handy with errant volcanoes.
So that's one.
Exactly. So, glass houses, stones, etc.
I never said he did. I was just making an example of how a villain could use a story like that, to make a hero sound less heroic.
If they do they don't seem to recall it when Batman turns up. Hell, a nameless "boss" gets to capture Batman in "P.O.V." and that's still an excellent episode.
Outside of "cool Michael Bay action scenes", what exactly did he need?
An episode spotlighting him and his powers. Like I said, "COLDHEARTED" did that, but that should have been covered earlier in the season like it was for most of the other characters.
And Superboy appearing alot, and living in Mt. Justice.
You do know that Wonder Girl was a character that was off limits in season 1, right?
I do. Unfortunately while she has some charm in the second season, she's the first major character I'd cut to make room for others if I had that job. It's a shortened season, which isn't the time to shove in more characters who need airtime. If one does, characters alluded to or built up from the first season take priority. I mean it would be a painful cut because it is good having something from WW's wheelhouse in a team show, but sometimes one needs to do that. I mean, there was always that spare comic for edited material.
I don't think Savage loses sleep over much. I'll wager that Vertigo probably did. Also notable, is that ONE PERSON stopped The Light from reaching their goal, and nothing was gained. Name another time ONE PERSON stopped The Light from achieving something, and they didn't gain a thing from it.
Lord knows if Savage sleeps at all. If he does I imagine his inner chamber likely has animal pelts from carnivores he's overpowered.
I am aware of that. You even bolded my statement in my last quote where I stated it was notable.
Except she's going to be worrying about being away from Wally while undercover.
That's a detail; the subplot works without that, though. The show doesn't have to beat us over the head with it and the plot would still work.
No Wally's subplot is going to be coming to grips about his insecurities as a speedster compared to Barry and/or Bart.
I've seen some people debating similar subplots were coming for Wally last season, both before and after "COLDHEARTED". I'm not holding my breath for it now in a shorter season. If that happens, great. But I also imagine Impulse may be the X-23 for Kid-Flash. By that I mean in "X-MEN EVOLUTION", part of why X-23 was created was to provide an excuse for Wolverine episodes (since the network wanted almost exclusive focus on the teenagers). While "YJ" doesn't have that dilemma I do imagine Impulse may be attached to Wally in episodes and I don't think that was needed. They had a mentor/sidekick relationship in the comics but that was when Wally was already Flash; that doesn't work if Impulse is more powerful. So my concern is Wally will become a detail/supporting character in Impulse's time travel subplot, since THAT actually ties into the seasonal arc and matters more.
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