Young Justice Cartoon - Part 8
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It was a very good morning of television for me...a phenomenal episode of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and then a little later a fantastic episode of Young Justice!
I really enjoyed seeing Nightwing go into detective mode and start to put the pieces together. And yes, his Batman scowl at the end of the ep was priceless!
I really enjoyed seeing Nightwing go into detective mode and start to put the pieces together. And yes, his Batman scowl at the end of the ep was priceless!
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I didn't hear that "no longer there" part.
Great episode. Manta did surprisingly well at close range. Sportsmaster is the man. If he's not like this in the comics by now...he should be.
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I agree that Black Manta was holding his own, but Sportsmaster had the upper-hand. I never knew how good Sportsmaster was, but after this episode he is definitely a bada** in my book. However, I did feel like he was slightly hesitant to fight Deathstroke, maybe he was just more concerned with getting out of there and letting the League carry out their covert mission. I did feel he was not Deathstroke's equal in this first fight between them.
Yeah I was paraphrasing what Deathstroke said. He did reference that he had a plan or something to take a spot when it opened rather than waiting for them to give him one. To me it sounded as if he has a plan to maybe kill a member of the Light to secure a permanent spot.
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Sort of disappointed by the episode. No real shocker moments and the storyline was literally just review and character catch up. Plus Deathstroke seemed sort of underpowered... feel like he should have wiped the floor with the Crock family and Miss M. But maybe he was holding back in order to savor the fight? Seems kind of silly with high value targets like them but anyways.
What actually happened to the Team? I thought Blue left them all laying out on the bay to suffocate? I guess the boom tube mention meant that the Reach boom tubed them somewhere but to where? To the ships? Seems like they could have just left them to die. The JL already knew something was up and Blue was about to come out anyway.
Also, I'm kind of pumped to possibly see some Nightwing solo action or even better: Wally donning the KF costume one last time since essentially the whole Team is captured aside from Miss Martian and that idiot invalid, Lagoon Boy. I'd be super surprised if Wally didn't show his face AT ALL for the rest of the season. If episode 20 is in fact a finale, it'd be quite fitting.
I wonder what Aqualad and Artemis' plans are for when Psimon wakes up from his coma... again. He seems to have a knack for doing that pretty quickly as well- quicker than expected usually. <- EDIT to add onto this, I still feel like Vandal knows something but is holding back to be methodical (as usual) about when he'll reveal his hand. I so hate the fact that this show is "terminally ill". >_<
What actually happened to the Team? I thought Blue left them all laying out on the bay to suffocate? I guess the boom tube mention meant that the Reach boom tubed them somewhere but to where? To the ships? Seems like they could have just left them to die. The JL already knew something was up and Blue was about to come out anyway.
Also, I'm kind of pumped to possibly see some Nightwing solo action or even better: Wally donning the KF costume one last time since essentially the whole Team is captured aside from Miss Martian and that idiot invalid, Lagoon Boy. I'd be super surprised if Wally didn't show his face AT ALL for the rest of the season. If episode 20 is in fact a finale, it'd be quite fitting.
I wonder what Aqualad and Artemis' plans are for when Psimon wakes up from his coma... again. He seems to have a knack for doing that pretty quickly as well- quicker than expected usually. <- EDIT to add onto this, I still feel like Vandal knows something but is holding back to be methodical (as usual) about when he'll reveal his hand. I so hate the fact that this show is "terminally ill". >_<
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With the remaining episodes of "YOUNG JUSTICE: INVASION" ticking away slowly but surely towards a season/series finale, this weekend brings us "COMPLICATIONS", a direct sequel to "THE FIX". Naturally being part of the ever flowing serial, it picks up right after "WAR" although it mostly tells a different story than the one from last week. It is lower key and the stakes are lower, but the episode doesn't lack for suspense or action. It is good to take a break from world threatening threats, because if they happened every week they'd lose their novelty, right? Instead this is an episode about ties between friends, family, and both maintaining and revealing secrets.
Overall, terrific episode as expected. Artemis episodes seem to never disappoint, thanks in no small part to her interesting family ties. Next week is "THE HUNT", which is about "a band of misfits" being sent to save the team by Lex Luthor - who I presume will be "the runaways". I also wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal - another of Luthor's "investments" - plays a role in this episode. I can't say I am thrilled to see more of the Superfriends instead of characters like Nightwing, Artemis, or Kaldur but at least we're seeing more of them as well as the other leads this season (Megan, Superboy, and Blue Beetle) sort of rise to the fore right now. I can't imagine how all or even half of this will be resolved in four episodes, but that's the suspense, isn't it? I don't expect all the threads to be sewn up, but hopefully it isn't a cliffhanger. Regardless, things are heating up and whatever comes will be riveting.
It is now the end of May, and at the bottom of the ocean, Miss Martian has been the captive of Black Manta attempting to psychically repair the damage done to Kaldur at the end of "BEFORE THE DAWN" for roughly a month and a half. With Deathstroke still keeping his watchful (and only) eye on the situation, things become dire when Black Manta imposes a 24 hour deadline on Megan's efforts. While sapped of most of her powers via those pesky "inhibitor collars" that the X-Men seem to always get saddled with by enemies, our heroes have a secret of their own; Kaldur's mind has been fully restored, and he was merely biding his time to plan a fair escape for Megan alongside Tigress/Artemis. Any sign of any errors or mistakes or "Kaldur turning bad for real" is non existent; with Artemis' help it seems everything was successful. All they lacked was opportunity, which thanks to Artemis' vengeful criminal relatives, they happen to get. Sure, capitalizing on circumstances when planning fails may not always be the stuff of masterminds, but it's served James Bond well for over 50 years.
The B-plot of the episode picks up where "WAR" left off, although some time after with Blue Beetle and Green Beetle having some time to "clean up". The Justice League (or what is left of them) are occupying the Warworld, and Blue Beetle makes up some alibi about boom tubes which has Captain Atom convinced. Having been trained by the "world's greatest detective", Nightwing decides to investigate things himself and he wanders upon the site of the last scene of "WAR". We see him gather evidence and it was nice that this show expected its audience to follow along without narration or flashbacks, or "smell-o-vision" which used to happen all the time with Logan in "WOLVERINE & THE X-MEN" that drove me bonkers. The irony is while Nightwing had enough evidence that he was surely doubting Blue Beetle's explanation of the events, it was the Reach overplaying their hand declaring him their national hero on TV which seemed to clinch it for the boy wonder's mind. Jesse McCartney has usually been good in the role but I thought he portrayed some good tones here, vowing to get to the bottom of this and avenge his team.
But the real meat of the episode was seeing the situation devolve and get hot in Black Manta's sub between the heroes, Manta's forces and Sportsmaster and Cheshire. While Cheshire does seem to genuinely want to avenge her sister (despite often being her rival or enemy), Sportsmaster is just there to avenge his reputation against Black Manta. The rest of the episode sees the two sides complicate each other's plans until Megan attempts some psychic compromise. We get some pretty good fight sequences between Sportsmaster and Black Manta, as well as later between Sportsmaster and Deathstroke. Heck, any episode with Artemis is usually one where one can expect some good storyboards for action. Much like in "FAILSAFE", Kaldur's willingness to endanger his teammates for the sake of a plan only goes so far, but in the end he, Megan and Artemis show that they can think on their feet and compromise. The episode is another one which shows us that not all villains have to be heartless monsters. Black Manta in the end just wanted his son restored to health; he's willing to kidnap and murder (even his own men) to accomplish this, but at the end when he hugs Kaldur it was hard to not feel just a little sorry for how badly Kaldur's playing him. Compare him to Sportsmaster, who still only sees his daughters as extensions or disappointments of his reputation. Deathstroke also reveals that he has more ambitious plans than the blue collar Sportsmaster, intending on getting "a seat at the table" with the Light rather than remain an enforcer forever. Overall Kaldur and Artemis succeed in maintaining their cover, arranging Megan's release as well as preventing Artemis' family from being killed by Manta's forces. It also hit me that Sportsmaster actually does use some lines about sports which could be corny on paper, but Nick Chinlund's delivery makes them sound colder and more chilling. TV.com claims Fred Tatasciore voiced Deathstroke here, which is odd since this series has usually been good about keeping its characters from being recast due to schedule, even some of those who work on other TV shows.
There are of course a lot of upcoming developments. Cheshire tells her mother Paula that Artemis is alive; since she also was shown that Wally was part of this secret, does Cheshire tell Paula that and it gets Paula mad at Wally? We also don't know what happened to Psimon; was he still on the sub or was he returned to Queen Bee's forces when he was struck comatose? His recovery is inevitable and that will put a time limit on this undercover mission. How does Deathstroke intend on moving up; will he capitalize when it comes out that moles breached "The Light" on Black Manta's beat? Does Blue and Green Beetle using boom tubes to make their hostages vanish mean they're in league with Apokolips, or that they just employ some toys that the Light use? And if Arsenal is still hiding on Warworld, what role will he play in "THE HUNT"?
Lots of good vocal performances here, which helps in an episode when most of the dialogue is psychically transmitted. I also wouldn't be surprised if that is a trick to speed up animation production, since mouth movements often take a lot of time. While Nightwing may know who his latest mole is, there isn't much he can do about it, yet. Although we do see some chips in the facade of the enemies. For the moment, "the team" still have their undercover agents in "the Light" and now they even got some assistance out of Sportsmaster and Cheshire. The Reach have overplayed their hand and revealed their mole in the superhero ranks far sooner than Vandal Savage did last season, which may be their undoing. The show has presented three opposing sides, and while the Light and the team would both want the Reach off the planet by now, that's where their mutual agreements end.
It was a bit odd that there seemed to be no public backlash towards the Reach having an alien fleet underwater. There's a lot of ocean on the world but surely someone would have noticed. It was a blatant lie that the Reach were spouting even as Mongul attacked. Perhaps a minor detail, but it did seem strange when the show is also painting the League's credibility as being poor. I imagine Mongul is being stashed where the rest of the kids are, so we may see him again.
The B-plot of the episode picks up where "WAR" left off, although some time after with Blue Beetle and Green Beetle having some time to "clean up". The Justice League (or what is left of them) are occupying the Warworld, and Blue Beetle makes up some alibi about boom tubes which has Captain Atom convinced. Having been trained by the "world's greatest detective", Nightwing decides to investigate things himself and he wanders upon the site of the last scene of "WAR". We see him gather evidence and it was nice that this show expected its audience to follow along without narration or flashbacks, or "smell-o-vision" which used to happen all the time with Logan in "WOLVERINE & THE X-MEN" that drove me bonkers. The irony is while Nightwing had enough evidence that he was surely doubting Blue Beetle's explanation of the events, it was the Reach overplaying their hand declaring him their national hero on TV which seemed to clinch it for the boy wonder's mind. Jesse McCartney has usually been good in the role but I thought he portrayed some good tones here, vowing to get to the bottom of this and avenge his team.
But the real meat of the episode was seeing the situation devolve and get hot in Black Manta's sub between the heroes, Manta's forces and Sportsmaster and Cheshire. While Cheshire does seem to genuinely want to avenge her sister (despite often being her rival or enemy), Sportsmaster is just there to avenge his reputation against Black Manta. The rest of the episode sees the two sides complicate each other's plans until Megan attempts some psychic compromise. We get some pretty good fight sequences between Sportsmaster and Black Manta, as well as later between Sportsmaster and Deathstroke. Heck, any episode with Artemis is usually one where one can expect some good storyboards for action. Much like in "FAILSAFE", Kaldur's willingness to endanger his teammates for the sake of a plan only goes so far, but in the end he, Megan and Artemis show that they can think on their feet and compromise. The episode is another one which shows us that not all villains have to be heartless monsters. Black Manta in the end just wanted his son restored to health; he's willing to kidnap and murder (even his own men) to accomplish this, but at the end when he hugs Kaldur it was hard to not feel just a little sorry for how badly Kaldur's playing him. Compare him to Sportsmaster, who still only sees his daughters as extensions or disappointments of his reputation. Deathstroke also reveals that he has more ambitious plans than the blue collar Sportsmaster, intending on getting "a seat at the table" with the Light rather than remain an enforcer forever. Overall Kaldur and Artemis succeed in maintaining their cover, arranging Megan's release as well as preventing Artemis' family from being killed by Manta's forces. It also hit me that Sportsmaster actually does use some lines about sports which could be corny on paper, but Nick Chinlund's delivery makes them sound colder and more chilling. TV.com claims Fred Tatasciore voiced Deathstroke here, which is odd since this series has usually been good about keeping its characters from being recast due to schedule, even some of those who work on other TV shows.
There are of course a lot of upcoming developments. Cheshire tells her mother Paula that Artemis is alive; since she also was shown that Wally was part of this secret, does Cheshire tell Paula that and it gets Paula mad at Wally? We also don't know what happened to Psimon; was he still on the sub or was he returned to Queen Bee's forces when he was struck comatose? His recovery is inevitable and that will put a time limit on this undercover mission. How does Deathstroke intend on moving up; will he capitalize when it comes out that moles breached "The Light" on Black Manta's beat? Does Blue and Green Beetle using boom tubes to make their hostages vanish mean they're in league with Apokolips, or that they just employ some toys that the Light use? And if Arsenal is still hiding on Warworld, what role will he play in "THE HUNT"?
Lots of good vocal performances here, which helps in an episode when most of the dialogue is psychically transmitted. I also wouldn't be surprised if that is a trick to speed up animation production, since mouth movements often take a lot of time. While Nightwing may know who his latest mole is, there isn't much he can do about it, yet. Although we do see some chips in the facade of the enemies. For the moment, "the team" still have their undercover agents in "the Light" and now they even got some assistance out of Sportsmaster and Cheshire. The Reach have overplayed their hand and revealed their mole in the superhero ranks far sooner than Vandal Savage did last season, which may be their undoing. The show has presented three opposing sides, and while the Light and the team would both want the Reach off the planet by now, that's where their mutual agreements end.
It was a bit odd that there seemed to be no public backlash towards the Reach having an alien fleet underwater. There's a lot of ocean on the world but surely someone would have noticed. It was a blatant lie that the Reach were spouting even as Mongul attacked. Perhaps a minor detail, but it did seem strange when the show is also painting the League's credibility as being poor. I imagine Mongul is being stashed where the rest of the kids are, so we may see him again.
Overall, terrific episode as expected. Artemis episodes seem to never disappoint, thanks in no small part to her interesting family ties. Next week is "THE HUNT", which is about "a band of misfits" being sent to save the team by Lex Luthor - who I presume will be "the runaways". I also wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal - another of Luthor's "investments" - plays a role in this episode. I can't say I am thrilled to see more of the Superfriends instead of characters like Nightwing, Artemis, or Kaldur but at least we're seeing more of them as well as the other leads this season (Megan, Superboy, and Blue Beetle) sort of rise to the fore right now. I can't imagine how all or even half of this will be resolved in four episodes, but that's the suspense, isn't it? I don't expect all the threads to be sewn up, but hopefully it isn't a cliffhanger. Regardless, things are heating up and whatever comes will be riveting.
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It is episodes like this that make me love this show more and more. I enjoyed every minute of it. I like how they portray all the characters, they made Sportmaster one tough cookie and I like that Deathstroke is good at what he does but everyone has an equal out there somewhere.
Only minor thing that I am a bit weary on is Kaldur recovering 100% like nothing ever happened. But this is also partly a kids show so I can live with it. Though I would have liked (and maybe we will see in the remaining episodes) him to not come back 100% Kaldur that we knew. Having a casualty come out of this whole thing (maybe it will happen) would be very strong.
Only minor thing that I am a bit weary on is Kaldur recovering 100% like nothing ever happened. But this is also partly a kids show so I can live with it. Though I would have liked (and maybe we will see in the remaining episodes) him to not come back 100% Kaldur that we knew. Having a casualty come out of this whole thing (maybe it will happen) would be very strong.
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Am I the only person who couldn't care less about Wally? He had his moments in season 1 like in Cold Hearted but I've never been too worried about his lack of screen time. Blue Beetle and Impulse and even Arsenal have more than made up for it. They really do need to show what's up with Red Arrow though. Guess he's babysitting
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Yeah, Wally hasn't been a real factor for me in watching the show. IMO he works better for representing superheroes that want to retire and a normal life. He doesn't need to come back as there is no real purpose.
Even if Artemis is severely injured or mortally wounded I don't care if he comes back for revenge or not.
There are plenty of other characters that can be utilized.
Even if Artemis is severely injured or mortally wounded I don't care if he comes back for revenge or not.
There are plenty of other characters that can be utilized.
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I forgot Chesher is a mom
About time Nightwing finds out, but what happened to Batman?
It's even sadder now that we have only 4 more episodes of this show
About time Nightwing finds out, but what happened to Batman?
It's even sadder now that we have only 4 more episodes of this show
Why? His arc ended with the introduction of Lian, and finding the original Roy Harper. He has even less of a reason to show up than Wally does.
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I'm just curious what happened to him. I'm curious what Wally as well just not as much
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I think that Wally should appear one last time just to round out the story full circle. It started with him, it should end with him as well.
Roy I honestly don't have a lot of care for at this point. Arsenal has made him obsolete in my mind ever since his confrontation with Luthor earlier this season. I agree that his arc with the baby and finding real Roy was enough closure for that character. But I wouldn't complain if he came in for the finale as well since he did sort of start the team as well.
And to Spider-Aziz, Batman is with the other five Leaguers on trial. The ones that the story has been ignoring since the hiatus. The part at the beginning of last week's episode hardly counts since it didn't move things along much... just showed that the aliens are still pretty PO'ed which anyone would have guessed.
Roy I honestly don't have a lot of care for at this point. Arsenal has made him obsolete in my mind ever since his confrontation with Luthor earlier this season. I agree that his arc with the baby and finding real Roy was enough closure for that character. But I wouldn't complain if he came in for the finale as well since he did sort of start the team as well.
And to Spider-Aziz, Batman is with the other five Leaguers on trial. The ones that the story has been ignoring since the hiatus. The part at the beginning of last week's episode hardly counts since it didn't move things along much... just showed that the aliens are still pretty PO'ed which anyone would have guessed.
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Yeah, that's how I feel as wellD:
I want to see more with Blue Beetle, the Runaways, Lex Luthor, and everyone else
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So seriously, everyone on earth is just glossing over the massive Reach armada that popped out of the ocean to fight War World, after the ambassador said they only had one science ship? Nobody's talking about this?
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That Reach Cola is kicking in maybe.
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