Your Theory on Attractiveness

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  1. ShadowBoxing Registered

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    I have this theory, and I want to try to illustrate it. I'm not trying to make an argument about myself, or really trying to necessarily say this is the way it is, but I do want to throw this out there.

    I've come to the conclusion that being attractive is almost totally in how one presents themselves. We'll say 95% of it is presentation, 5% is actually some sort of objective looks or physicality.

    Allow me to explain. A couple weeks ago I met Bill Clinton for the second time this year. He was Christmas shopping, or at least what passes for that when you're as famous as he is, downtown in our "Slave" Market (it's an old slave market that's now a regular flee market -- he wasn't buying slaves, sadly).

    Now of course his "shopping" includes being mobbed by a cast of thousands, having tons of secret service with him, signing autographs, speaking with townsfolk, campaigning for his wife and having a living wallet who goes around and buys things on his behalf. It was pretty surreal watching how this man, who was really no more special than I was, lived.

    Anyways, as you can imagine at least half the crowd that was trying to shake his hand were women, and they were all going nuts. Like Brad Pitt nuts. Like young Paul Newman nuts. Like Christian Bale nuts. Nuts. They were fanning themselves. Some called their girlfriends on their phones to gush over being "five people" away from the President. I heard at least three or four "OMG:wow: He's cho handsome"s from women in the crowd. Keep in mind, this is what President Clinton looked like in his younger years...
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    Not exactly Brad Pitt or Christian Bale to say the least. Also, who is that man standing next to him? Eh...moving right along.

    So I work my way throw the crowd. Finally I get to him and shake his hand. I say "Hello, my name is Mike, I work for your wife's campaign". "You do" he says, "where do you live?" I tell him I lived right there in town. I also told him how much I enjoyed it. He thanked me. Now as we're having our brief exchange, a girl, maybe 18 or 17 is trying to wedge in between us. I do my gentlemanly duty and say "Mr. President, I think this young lady wants to meet you" and I step aside and let her in my place. She shakes his hand, says nothing and just freezes. She lets go and is just in awe of her hand. She's on her cellphone at the time and can't believe she's just touched the Presidents own hand.

    "I touched him Becky, I can't believe I just touched him!" She exclaims to her friend.

    So now that a whole army of woman have forced me into an uncomfortable rock and a hard place and climb on an adjacent table and make my way out of the crowd.

    Of course I collect myself, go home, tell my parents of the excitement.

    Although, now that I'd met him twice, I'd really had time to reflect. The first time, I'd been as taken by his pressence as everyone else. This time I was calm, even noticed he was about an inch or so shorter than I. I noticed I had broader shoulders, and really realized he wasn't the immortal figure he seemed the last time. What really struck me though was how well presented he was. His hair wasn't combed, it was flawless, like a sculpture. His skin was without a blemish. His eyes contact and manner of speaking was something to be admired. He was charming. He was well mannered, showed no signs of irritability or weakness. Above all else, every move he made, right down to those little gestures and reflexes you and I take for granted, seemed premeditated and at the same time all too natural for him.

    So this got me thinking, not just about myself, but about others. Attractiveness; in Clinton's case didn't seem to be from six pack abs or a killer face. No, Clinton's a true diamond in the rough if I've ever seen one. Yet for all his faults that I could list or figure out, he displayed none of them in public. He could charm the paint off the ceilings in that place. He probably could have even gotten some of those women to sell themselves as slaves in that old market. Not on his looks, just on his pure, unadulterated charisma.

    So I guess my question that comes from all this is, could you take someone from this site: a Fran, a Radiant Dawn, a TOB, a Kel , me, J Alba's Lover??? and make them attractive in a way that would be incredibly appealing to most. Is it in the presentation, like they say it is with food sometimes, or is it actually objectively what you got that matters?
     
  2. Jolly Rolly Registered

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    I think that woman want more than just a pretty boy face, the guy has to be smart, funny and even that alone can get any ugly dude laid.

    Then of course there are those who are only into guys with $$$$$$$!
     
  3. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    You work for Hillary? I have no respect for you as you will bring to existence the end of the world.
     
  4. LouFerignoDemon CLEAN YOUR SHEETS!!!

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    I agree tons has to do with appearance, but it didn't really help that he was a former president of the United States, and some people just find it sexy.

    For the same reason some people find Oprah sexy. Power and fame. And money.
     
  5. ShadowBoxing Registered

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    I was wondering how many posts it would take before someone latched onto "ShadowBoxing works for teh Hillariez Clintons, Oh Noes!!!"

    ...yes, that means I'm voting for her as well.
     
  6. ShadowBoxing Registered

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    Don't know that this is sufficient. I mean yes, power is sexy, but at the same time we've had many Presidents, many better than Clinton was (who was probably somewhere in the middle in terms of quality), yet he is immensely popular. Even moreso than Bush Sr. or Jimmy Carter.
     
  7. Abaddon Watching

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    She's All That: Hype Edition.





    or My Fair Lady for the fogies.:o
     
  8. LouFerignoDemon CLEAN YOUR SHEETS!!!

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    Mainly because he put you guys in a surplus never before seen, and had good relations with just about everybody, I would imagine.


    That, and he's probably compared with Bush Jr. a lot, given that he's the president before him. :o
     
  9. ShadowBoxing Registered

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    Even though I don't want this getting political, I do think the comparisons with Bush43 have actually been what has given his Presidency the biggest boost.
     
  10. LouFerignoDemon CLEAN YOUR SHEETS!!!

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    It was more of a teasing joke, but I imagine it didn't hurt Clinton at all.
     
  11. Lunar_Wolf WTF face

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    At the end of the day, your looks can only get you so far. After you see the same face from people in your life everyday, you get used to it. Your personality shines through in the end. Your personality is a main attraction, even though people tend to judge you by looks first. If you can make people laugh, listen and take interest in what you say or how you act, then those people will want to be around you. Take Kevin Smith. The guy is not attractive in looks, but damn he has one hot wife. It's also how you build your reputation. Like you said, people were going nuts of Clinton. Not because he looks like a handsome prince from a fairytale, but because of who he was. People know where he has been and what he has done. People want to be around someone like that.
    I believe looks get you to a certain point, but your personality is the main attraction.
     
  12. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    Boooo...but I guess whatever gets you paid gets you laid:o
     
  13. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    Power is sexy:o Clinton is extremely popular because of what Bush has done...ie by comparison. The next guy will also be popular by comparison if he doesn't kill the country.
     
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    Shadowboxing = speechless young lady
     
  15. Yurka Let The Games Begin!

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    I have a feeling its because he was the goddamn President of the United States, not because hes teh sexy-ness.
     
  16. terry78 My name is Stefan, sweet thang

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    It's the confidence and charm given off. That's why Tony Soprano, even as a fictional character could get the tail he got on the show...women were throwing themselves at him, even those that didn't know he was a mob boss. Even if an unattractive person comes up to you and tries to spit some game, as it were, even if you don't find them hot, you're subconsciously curious about them for having the guts to say something.
     
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    or pygmalion
     
  18. Erzengel |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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    To echo what everyone is saying, it's the confidence, charm that he has, not to mention he was the former President of the US, the power and prestige that comes with that and add to it, that he's not a bad looking older man.
     
  19. November Rain Single Mother

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    Attrativeness physically is one thing

    Having an attractive aura is completely different

    however the latter, especially in the latter or mid stages in life can heavily make up for a lack in the former (not a completely lack though but with cosmetic surgery, it might as well be).

    It just goes to show that looks really aren't everything.
     
  20. ShadowBoxing Registered

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    ...The women found him sexy. I heard that word thrown around a few times. He was physically attractive, or at least seemed that way, to everyone in the crowd.
     
  21. terry78 My name is Stefan, sweet thang

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    Clinton always looks calm and collected, I think that's part of it. Even during the Lewinsky thing, he just looked at ease. His face has never changed expression, so you feel...comfy with the dude.
     
  22. ShadowBoxing Registered

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    :heart: you do

    J/k. Yeah, he was definitely that. Though that's what made me wonder. Could you take a guy like JAL (bear with me on this one, okay), get some expert stylist, several doctors and some sort of therapist and make him so charismatic that he was as commanding a pressence that women just threw themselves at him...
     
  23. terry78 My name is Stefan, sweet thang

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    ^Hell, he got Peter Griffin to sleep with him. :o
     
  24. kane9321 oakland's finest

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    ^^^^zing bam
     
  25. Danalys Sol Invictus

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    there's probably miniscule body language ques that can't be trained.
     

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