Zelda

[Kipobe]

I completely can't remember the water temples in WW and MM



Regardless, the Water Temple here was pretty easy. Actually, all the dungeons and temples here are "easy", but they're still highly enjoyable.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I was gonna say I haven't heard it yet, and then I was gonna say it wasn't in Wind Waker either... but yeah it was in the opening moments with the story in WW... then later when he's dubbed the Hero of Winds. Which reminded me, that moment was very similar to a moment in this game that came early on, and sure enough the music was (if memory serves) the original theme.

You know it makes sense now why the Hylians prayed for the Hero of Time to come before Hyrule got flooded even though he was long gone, a person exactly similar arrived when Zant tried to merge the Twilight Realm and Hyrule.

So do the Hylians think that this Link is the Hero of Time returned or does he get a Hero of [Insert Title] like the other Links have?

 

[kainedamo]

I haven't got a wii yet. It's not even out yet. Use spoilers if you guys are gonna go into detail

Hey Kibobe, you say the dungeons are easy? I heard from lots of places they were harder.

 

[Not Jake]

I completely can't remember the water temples in WW and MM



Regardless, the Water Temple here was pretty easy. Actually, all the dungeons and temples here are "easy", but they're still highly enjoyable.

In WW you never went underwater...the tower of the gods had some water-level puzzles though, so I guess that's the closest thing WW had to a water temple

 

[Not Jake]

I was gonna say I haven't heard it yet, and then I was gonna say it wasn't in Wind Waker either... but yeah it was in the opening moments with the story in WW... then later when he's dubbed the Hero of Winds.

The main theme while sailing was the original Zelda theme, just re-mixed, or re-arranged, whatever the correct term is. It was the theme, just...a little different

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

****ing right, I found a Wii at my local Target. Time to play me some Zelda!

 

[Kipobe]

You know it makes sense now why the Hylians prayed for the Hero of Time to come before Hyrule got flooded even though he was long gone, a person exactly similar arrived when Zant tried to merge the Twilight Realm and Hyrule.

So do the Hylians think that this Link is the Hero of Time returned or does he get a Hero of [Insert Title] like the other Links have?

You should totally use spoiler tags. I thought you didn't have the game yet...?

Anyway, I'm not sure on the specifics... I wanna play it through for more of an understanding of where this could be in the timeline... but to be honest, I hate the timeline with pre-MM games. Aunoma seems to like the timeline.... Miyamoto never really cared for it, so games that predate OoT (and inclusive of) are linked more by coincidence in my opinion, unless Aunoma's games from here on out work to tie them all in.

It wasn't until he took over that we started hearing things like "this game takes place x-years after the events of loz:xxx" and so forth.

We'll see.

 

[Kipobe]

I haven't got a wii yet. It's not even out yet. Use spoilers if you guys are gonna go into detail

Hey Kibobe, you say the dungeons are easy? I heard from lots of places they were harder.

I don't know if they're harder... they're a lot more grand and involved, but harder? Not really. They're very intuitive... if you've played Zelda you know what to do. Combination of items; using the newest item you get; the first path is usually the wrong one; what you can't do now you'll be able to do later; look carefully around every room and use all that's at your disposal.

That's the basic principles for completing any dungeon in any Zelda game, and it's even more highlighted here. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't ruin the effect of the game as TP does it better than any Zelda game to date... but it's not exactly brain science.

Although, I badly want a guide just to see what I've missed since I've started playing. It's so.... grand.

 

[Kipobe]

In WW you never went underwater...the tower of the gods had some water-level puzzles though, so I guess that's the closest thing WW had to a water temple

I still don't remember. Was it before you got the Master Sword, or after? I need to go back and play that game.

 

[Kipobe]

The main theme while sailing was the original Zelda theme, just re-mixed, or re-arranged, whatever the correct term is. It was the theme, just...a little different

In that case you could say that about any Zelda game, really. They all do that at one point or another with their overworld theme... but the Ocean theme wasn't the original no more than OoT's Hyrule Field was the original.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

****ing right, I found a Wii at my local Target. Time to play me some Zelda!

You have the blessing of us upon ye. Now, go forth, and enjoy yon Wii.

 

[hippie_hunter]

So what do you guys hope for the next Legend of Zelda game.

 

[Electro UK]

It being less than 3-4 years away'd be nice.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

You know it makes sense now why the Hylians prayed for the Hero of Time to come before Hyrule got flooded even though he was long gone, a person exactly similar arrived when Zant tried to merge the Twilight Realm and Hyrule.

So do the Hylians think that this Link is the Hero of Time returned or does he get a Hero of [Insert Title] like the other Links have?

Spoiler

I think the Hero of Time is for all Links. It's a title given to the person who saves Hyrule in its darkest hour.

 

[Kipobe]

Spoiler

I think the Hero of Time is for all Links. It's a title given to the person who saves Hyrule in its darkest hour.

OoT's Link got dubbed that because of his traveling through time. MM's Link didn't get an official title (if memory serves correct) because he was OoT's Link. WW's Link was dubbed Hero of Winds.

Dunno what this Link is gonna get yet... if any.

 

[kainedamo]

So what do you guys hope for the next Legend of Zelda game.

Well lets see. Each Zelda game since OOT has had a unique gameplay feature to that game. OOT enabled you to go between being a kid and an adult. MM had that whole weird time limit to complete the game thing. WW had the sailing. TP has being able to turn into a wolf. So maybe they'll do something new for the next game.

Besides that, what else can they do really? Graphical upgrade, a few new gameplay features... and what else? They made the perfect game when they made OOT, so they can't really redesign the whole concept from the ground up. All they can do is upgrade the graphics and add in a few new gameplay features where they can.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

OoT's Link got dubbed that because of his traveling through time. MM's Link didn't get an official title (if memory serves correct) because he was OoT's Link. WW's Link was dubbed Hero of Winds.

Dunno what this Link is gonna get yet... if any.

Where does it say WW Link is the Hero of Winds?

 

[kainedamo]

Where does it say WW Link is the Hero of Winds?

It says so in the game. He is dubbed the Hero of Winds by the King of Hyrule.

 

[Electro UK]

It says so in the game. He is dubbed the Hero of Winds by the King of Hyrule.

Yeah just after he got all the triforce back and headed into Hyrule for the final time...

Sucky thing to be a hero of though.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I guess this Link will be the Hero of Light.

 

[Kipobe]

Well lets see. Each Zelda game since OOT has had a unique gameplay feature to that game. OOT enabled you to go between being a kid and an adult. MM had that whole weird time limit to complete the game thing. WW had the sailing. TP has being able to turn into a wolf. So maybe they'll do something new for the next game.

Besides that, what else can they do really? Graphical upgrade, a few new gameplay features... and what else? They made the perfect game when they made OOT, so they can't really redesign the whole concept from the ground up. All they can do is upgrade the graphics and add in a few new gameplay features where they can.

I'm only 5 dungeons in, but this game has really set the bar for what all Zelda games should be. This is why Gamespot's review was such crap... because they said it's the same old thing... this game has redesigned so many Zelda staples, and brought in a myriad of new ones. I mean, Snowpeak's dungeon was set in someone's home for crying out loud... how kickass is that? And the story is way compelling.

The music is nostalgic enough to keep the Zelda feel whilst bringing in some new sounds here and there... I love Kakariko Villiage's remade theme. The music after you clear a dungeon that lingers before you warp out is awesome.

I guess my only hope for the next Zelda game is that they build the controls from the ground up... I'm anxious to see what they'd come up with having the Wii controller in their hands from day 1. Maybe even 1:1 controls? I dunno. Next-gen graphics leap. Don't get me wrong, TP is beautiful... but it took so much crap from reviewers and critics because it was being compared to the current generation... lame, I know... especially when it would be considered a top-end game last gen in terms of graphics... so for the sake of protecting it's great name, a graphics leap would be a must.

Other than that, I hope they continue in working hard on innovation and story. A ton of work went into this one, and it'd be daunting to start from scratch here... but they've done it before. I just hope they take their time... even if it means waiting another 3+ years.

 

[Zenien]

I've gotten through the first

Spoiler

4 temples

and I'm taking some time off from the main quest to explore. When I first played the game I felt like I was continualy being bolted from twilight to twilight, but now that

Spoiler

Hyrule is twlight free and I can transform

the whole world has opened up, I never realized how much nooks and hidden areas the game had before now. I feel like I'm playing the Zelda equivalent of a Morrowind world. It's so awesome. I was randomly like "I love you Zelda" when I was playing last night and then I laughed.

 

[Kipobe]

Did you go fishing in the real fishing hole with the real rod, yet? If not, do so.

 

[Zenien]

I'm not sure where to get the fishing rod yet, I might go back to Ordon to see if they have one. I spent about an hour last night exploring the mine area at Lake Hylia.

 

[Lackey]

****ing right, I found a Wii at my local Target. Time to play me some Zelda!

so you just waltzed into a Target and they had a Wii? no fair