Zombies!

[T'Jai]

they've only been featured in one film, though. not exactly a staple of the modern zombie films. i can't stand them and wouldn't have them in my movie, but whatever works for you.

the 28 days films though technically not "zombie" films are considered in genre. Since that film there have been a few more that include the quicker ones. (not just Dawn some of the low budgets are jumping that band wagon as well) Researching the old films I was surprised at what some of the originals were capable of. The Very First Ghoul knew enough to try the handle of the car door and then picked up a rock and smashed the window when he couldn't get in. Later on the outside ones smashed the lights of the truck(not sure why)... there are a few more little bits like that I saw that colored my "Definitive Ghoul" for my rendition including the lurching stride that was much faster than I expected in that "First Contact Scenario"...

 

[Ryo Jin]

true, that slipped my mind. damn good movie, too. i still think that something that's gone through rigor mortis should not be able to sprint.

I wholeheartedly agree and have been saying the same thing about running zombies for awhile

 

[sinewave]

the 28 days films though technically not "zombie" films are considered in genre. Since that film there have been a few more that include the quicker ones. (not just Dawn some of the low budgets are jumping that band wagon as well) Researching the old films I was surprised at what some of the originals were capable of. The Very First Ghoul knew enough to try the handle of the car door and then picked up a rock and smashed the window when he couldn't get in. Later on the outside ones smashed the lights of the truck(not sure why)... there are a few more little bits like that I saw that colored my "Definitive Ghoul" for my rendition including the lurching stride that was much faster than I expected in that "First Contact Scenario"...

yeah, but those "zombies" in the 28 films were alive, so their limbs werent affected by rigor mortis. i know zombies are sc-fi, but there should still be some logic invloved.

 

[Ryo Jin]

yeah, but those "zombies" in the 28 films were alive, so their limbs werent affected by rigor mortis. i know zombies are sc-fi, but there should still be some logic invloved.

Very true, just saying the way they were depicted in the sequel leaned more towards zombie status.

 

[T'Jai]

yeah, but those "zombies" in the 28 films were alive, so their limbs werent affected by rigor mortis. i know zombies are sc-fi, but there should still be some logic invloved.

and with the "viral" or "mystical" nature of the disease/curse/infection/affliction... perhaps the natural processes have been diverted and or disrupted

 

[sinewave]

Very true, just saying the way they were depicted in the sequel leaned more towards zombie status.

were they depicted different than in the first movie? i thought it was still a virus that left them alive but psychotic?

and with the "viral" or "mystical" nature of the disease/curse/infection/affliction... perhaps the natural processes have been diverted and or disrupted

could be. i'm more of a romero-ist, i guess.

 

[Ryo Jin]

were they depicted different than in the first movie? i thought it was still a virus that left them alive but psychotic?

Of course, they actually look like rotting zombies and actually bite this time around.

 

[T'Jai]

Oh I'm completely a Romero-ist but I'm also a WannashootamoviethatIwroteforasomehatreasonablebudget-ist as well

 

[Jack Rabbit]

true, that slipped my mind. damn good movie, too. i still think that something that's gone through rigor mortis should not be able to sprint.

But they're so much scarier.

Sure, it doesn't make sense(for the Snyder DoD, anyway), but it's all like, "Ah, shiet, we're ****ed."

I liked how fast and brutal they were in the 28 Days films.

 

[Ryo Jin]

Fast does equal scarier. They pose more of a serious threat and sense of urgency.

 

[The Lizard]

Return of the Living Dead had running zombies that could talk. Though those movies were basically a guy that worked with Romero who wanted to do his own thing. Not to mention 28 Weeks Later, where they actually bite instead of just spit like its predecessor.

The Return of the Living Dead films could do whatever they wanted since they were supposed to be comedy/horror films. Thus in the first ROTLD (the only really good one), we see zombies running and talking, along with skeletons that can somehow move by themselves and zombies immune to their brains being destroyed. It was all in fun (albeit sick, gory fun).

 

[T'Jai]

But they're so much scarier.

Sure, it doesn't make sense(for the Snyder DoD, anyway), but it's all like, "Ah, shiet, we're ****ed."

I liked how fast and brutal they were in the 28 Days films.

Fast does equal scarier. They pose more of a serious threat and sense of urgency.

Gentlemen I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Fast ones don't give you time to be scared. Your too busy running and shooting, it's more of a action/thriller situation

That slow crawl;they could be anywhere and you don't know cause they are usually quiet and ah hell the damned things just won't stop coming... is a much more insidious and frightening situation,
the fast ones allow no illusions of survival, while the slow ones allow just enough false hope that you continue to fight the inevitable, the edges of your will being slowly chipped away by the relentless futility of your circumstance...

 

[sinewave]

Of course, they actually look like rotting zombies and actually bite this time around.

they bit in the first one, too.

Oh I'm completely a Romero-ist but I'm also a WannashootamoviethatIwroteforasomehatreasonablebudget-ist as well

are you mixing slow and shamblig zombies?

But they're so much scarier.

Sure, it doesn't make sense(for the Snyder DoD, anyway), but it's all like, "Ah, shiet, we're ****ed."

I liked how fast and brutal they were in the 28 Days films.

i always like the idea that people underestimate the slow zombies and end up getting surrounded by a large pack that they can't escape from. i'll take that over super fast zombies any day.

 

[Ryo Jin]

The Return of the Living Dead films could do whatever they wanted since they were supposed to be comedy/horror films. Thus in the first ROTLD (the only really good one), we see zombies running and talking, along with skeletons that can somehow move by themselves and zombies immune to their brains being destroyed. It was all in fun (albeit sick, gory fun).

Brains ease the pain! But those movies were also the reason why non-zombie fans think all they dine on are brains

 

[Ryo Jin]

they bit in the first one, too.

They did? Where?

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

The Return of the Living Dead films could do whatever they wanted since they were supposed to be comedy/horror films. Thus in the first ROTLD (the only really good one), we see zombies running and talking, along with skeletons that can somehow move by themselves and zombie immune to their brains being destroyed. It was all in fun (albeit sick, gory fun).

It's weird to me because Return of the Living Dead has never seemed like a big, mainstream crossover hit/cultural touchstone.
No one I know talks about it except real Horror Fans.

But it is the only Zombie movie I've seen where, more than human flesh, the Zombies specifically crave BRAINS.

And everyone, everyone, when you mention Zombies, they go "brRaAaAINS!"

How did this happen?

 

[sinewave]

They did? Where?

in the movie.

 

[Ryo Jin]

It's weird to me because Return of the Living Dead has never seemed like a big, mainstream crossover hit/cultural touchstone.
No one I know talks about it except real Horror Fans.

But it is the only Zombie movie I've seen where, more than human flesh, the Zombies specifically crave BRAINS.

And everyone, everyone, when you mention Zombies, they go "brRaAaAINS!"

How did this happen?

That's what I said, tis truly annoying.

 

[Ryo Jin]

in the movie.

Lies!

I was asking for which scene

 

[Jack Rabbit]

i always like the idea that people underestimate the slow zombies and end up getting surrounded by a large pack that they can't escape from. i'll take that over super fast zombies any day.

Valid point...

 

[T'Jai]

are you mixing slow and shamblig zombies?

it seems (after I have completed my musings and seen to the proper legislation) I shall have to offer up a copy for your perusal as to allow you to find out

 

[Untilteld]

I'd be more frightened of a slow zombie cause they have that essence of creepiness, running zombies it seems like I could fight them like a normal human.

 

[T'Jai]

in case it was somehow overlooked my take on the speed= scary debate

Gentlemen I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Fast ones don't give you time to be scared. Your too busy running and shooting, it's more of a action/thriller situation

That slow crawl;they could be anywhere and you don't know cause they are usually quiet and ah hell the damned things just won't stop coming... is a much more insidious and frightening situation,
the fast ones allow no illusions of survival, while the slow ones allow just enough false hope that you continue to fight the inevitable, the edges of your will being slowly chipped away by the relentless futility of your circumstance...

 

[Ryo Jin]

in case it was somehow overlooked my take on the speed= scary debate

Well said.

 

[The Lizard]

and with the "viral" or "mystical" nature of the disease/curse/infection/affliction... perhaps the natural processes have been diverted and or disrupted

Anyone looking for a more "scientific" explanation for zombies should read the chapter in The Zombie Survival Guide that discusses the Solanum virus. It's the most thought-out explanation for the zombie plague scenario so far.