Superman Returns 11 Clips Posted on IESB!

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Hi Res versions at RT

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/trailers.php

 

[bsquad]

the "Did you love him" clip played out alot better than it did when I read it in the book. Props to James Marsden

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

If Superman realized that earth was his home long before that the character would be so stale you would need olive oil to soften him up. This is what relates Superman to the masses, that he feels like an alien or an outcast, it plays out through all Superman media.

Sure, he does feel like an alien, but that has due to the fact that, he is an alien, he´s not from here.
But the thing is, he was born here, raised here...he might not feel that he belongs, but doesn´t make it any less true that he finds Earth his home.

 

[ultimatefan]

Now that I managed to hear the dialogue, I´m really impressed. It´s emotional without being corny and fun without being cheesy. Like all things Singer, there´s an innate elegance to it, even within the realms of a fun summer blockbuster.

 

[ad101867]

It's strange i loved [Batman Begins] but didn't relate to Bruce at all, plus relating to a character and the character doing a jerk act is not the same thing IMO

I think you did relate to Bruce. We all did - not because we've all had our parents murdered, but because Bruce's reaction to things sprang from a universal human nature that we can relate to. For instance, I would bet that everyone on this board at some time or another has been angry at someone for something they did to us or to someone we cared about, and we may have had vengeful feelings toward that person. Bruce's situation just maximizes those vengeful feelings, but then he learns the difference between justice and revenge. This is why Rachel Dawes' statement to him in the car was, I think, probably the key philosophical line in the film: "Justice is about harmony; revenge is about making yourself feel better."

But you're absolutely right that a character doesn't have to do a jerk thing in order for us to relate to him or for him to be "humanized." Still, I don't mind Superman doing a jerk thing now and again. If he were morally perfect, well, basically he'd be a substitute Jesus, and that wouldn't sit well with me either. I like it when a Christ-figure (and there's no doubt that is what Superman is) reminds me of Jesus - not replaces Him.

As to an "absolute morality," another post-er said that it doesn't have to be absolute, just something people can aspire to. But if a moral standard isn't absolute, then there's no particular reason why anyone "should" aspire to it. I.e., if it's not absolute, then there's no reason to think it's superior to any other, hence not worth aspiring to more than aspiring to some other standard. The only way any of us evaluates anybody's morality is by assuming in the back of our minds a very real Absolute Standard. We sense that standard strongly in back of a character like Superman; we sense that this character, more than perhaps any other fantasy or comicbook character, gets close to that Absolute Standard. And we sense that's a good thing, and that's what we warm to in the character of Superman.

 

[Steelsheen]

But you're absolutely right that a character doesn't have to do a jerk thing in order for us to relate to him or for him to be "humanized." Still, I don't mind Superman doing a jerk thing now and again. If he were morally perfect, well, basically he'd be a substitute Jesus, and that wouldn't sit well with me either. I like it when a Christ-figure (and there's no doubt that is what Superman is) reminds me of Jesus - not replaces Him.

i agree