18 year old girl murdered by ex-boyfriend for breaking up with him

[DarthSkywalker]

http://www.dailycamera.com/boulder-...yfriend-admitted-killing-berthoud-teen-ashley

Tanner Flores admitted to shooting his ex-girlfriend twice in the head, cleaning her body and driving the corpse from Larimer County to the Western Slope town of Collbran, about five hours from the spot she was killed, according to an arrest affidavit.

Flores, 18, is accused of killing Ashley Doolittle near Carter Lake, in unincorporated Larimer County. Mesa County deputies arrested him Friday after his family advised an investigator that Flores' truck was parked in the driveway of his deceased grandfather's home. Flores faces charges of first-degree murder and second-degree kidnapping.

Flores was upset that Doolittle had broken up with him after a relationship that had lasted more than a year, a friend of his told investigators, according to the affidavit.

How the 18 year old POS got a hold of a gun:

Flores' father told investigators that his .22-caliber revolver was missing from a locked gun cabinet and that Flores knew where the key was kept, according to the affidavit.

 

[Chesterfield]

"We need guns...lots of guns" - Neo

"If more people had guns there'd be less shootings in this country" - Lazlow

 

[Asgard]

Not sure of the relevance of how he got the murder weapon, but regardless this guy needs life in prison or even the death penalty.

Some people should really not be in relationships.

 

[Marvolo]

Considering the situation, this guy would have killed her regardless of whether he had a gun or not. He would have stabbed her or beat her to death or done something equally horrible. The only difference the gun made was she most likely had a quicker less painful death.

Poor girl. My heart goes out to her family and friends.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I have to find it, but I remember reading a story on how adding a gun to a domestic violence situation makes a fatality a lot higher. Stabbing or beating someone is not the same thing. It is not as easy nor does it invoke the idea of doing it in the first place.

Here we go:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/18/guns-make-domestic-violence-deadlier/198942

 

[Marvolo]

I have to find it, but I remember reading a story on how adding a gun to a domestic violence situation makes a fatality a lot higher. Stabbing or beating someone is not the same thing. It is not as easy nor does it invoke the idea of doing it in the first place.

Here we go:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/18/guns-make-domestic-violence-deadlier/198942

This guy made a conscious decision to kill her out of jealousy and anger. Not because he had access to a gun. He was going to kill her regardless. In some situations a gun does make a difference. In this case, I doubt lack of a gun wouldnt have changed anything.

I dont know if youve ever been in a true murder rage before but maybe you have. I have. A girl I was with fooled around with a friend and I found out while he was at my house because she called me by mistake to tell him she'd left her panties at his house. When you're put in a situation like that when you feel so betrayed and hurt the rage wont dissipate just because you dont have a gun. When you are that angry (as Im sure this mentally unstable guy was) you begin to think of other imaginative ways to make the person hurt. Most of us have the control and balance to not act on those types of thoughts, but an unstable person doesnt have that control. Them not having a gun doesnt improve the situation much. A person like that is going to express that rage one way or another.

I can only imagine what this guy would have done to her if he didnt have a gun, and it might have been far uglier and less quick than what he did with that gun.

This whole thing is ****ing tragic. So young and life snatched away over some puppy love and mental instability.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This guy made a conscious decision to kill her out of jealousy and anger. Not because he had access to a gun. He was going to kill her regardless. In some situations a gun does make a difference. In this case, I doubt lack of a gun wouldnt have changed anything.

I dont know if youve ever been in a true murder rage before but maybe you have. I have. A girl I was with fooled around with a friend and I found out while he was at my house because she called me by mistake to tell him she'd left her panties at his house. When you're put in a situation like that when you feel so betrayed and hurt the rage wont dissipate just because you dont have a gun. When you are that angry (as Im sure this mentally unstable guy was) you begin to think of other imaginative ways to make the person hurt. Most of us have the control and balance to not act on those types of thoughts, but an unstable person doesnt have that control. Them not having a gun doesnt improve the situation much. A person like that is going to express that rage one way or another.

I can only imagine what this guy would have done to her if he didnt have a gun, and it might have been far uglier and less quick than what he did with that gun.

This whole thing is ****ing tragic. So young and life snatched away over some puppy love and mental instability.

I agree it will not prevent every situation. Of course it will not. Planning is different then the "heat of passion".

You say you can only imagine what else he would have done without the gun. But he couldn't do worse. She is dead. I don't really measure the amount of pain beforehand when it comes to death, because dead is dead. And whatever he did, it would have been more difficult. Stabbing someone, beating them to death, strangling them, etc. It takes a different kind of time, a different kind of effort, and it does give the victim more of a chance. A great chance? No. But more of one. It also ask more of the POS trying to do this.

 

[Greens]

I dont know if youve ever been in a true murder rage before but maybe you have. I have.

I have as well, and it's pretty fascinating how anger can transform you. It doesn't excuse anything, but there's definitely some devil that takes over your body for a second.

This is different because the guy premeditated everything. It wasn't a spontaneous bout of rage, it was a planned killing. ****ed up.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm all for gun control, but as Marvolo -and a million more said 5 million times already- limiting gun use is not the ultimate solution.
But it would certainly reduce the number of people killed significantly.

 

[Teelie]

In this instance gun control has nothing to do with what happened. It was a legally owned, properly locked and secure gun. It was taken in a premediated act. There was no spur of the moment anger, no loss of control or mindless rage motivating him to do it. He clearly planned this out ahead of time. He even cleaned her body up and drove it well out of the way from where the murder happened.

Not every gun violence story is an excuse to bring up gun control. This is a situation where he went out of his way to get the gun. It could easily have been a knife or a baseball bat or tire iron. He could have used his bare hands to choke her to death he was so determined to murder her.

 

[Sawyer]

Toxic masculinity at it's finest, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[SuperT]

Toxic masculinity at it's finest, ladies and gentlemen.

Bingo.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

There are a lot of A-holes who believe that they own the people they are in relationships with. It's disgusting.

 

[DA_Champion]

Toxic masculinity at it's finest, ladies and gentlemen.

Nailed.

 

[Logan0327]

I'm all for gun control, but as Marvolo -and a million more said 5 million times already- limiting gun use is not the ultimate solution.
But it would certainly reduce the number of people killed significantly.

not really if someone wants a gun they will get a gun

drugs are illegal and many people still get them

 

[DA_Champion]

Limiting guns is not a perfect solution, but it's several steps in the right direction.

There are ~30,000 gun deaths per year in the USA. No, that wouldn't drop to zero. But it would almost certainly drop significantly.

 

[Mani-Man]

not really if someone wants a gun they will get a gun

drugs are illegal and many people still get them

Honestly, this is the worst kind of excuse i have seen people make.
It sounds like people dont even want to try changing things.

Yes, drugs are illegal and people can still get them...but think for one second how the world would look like if you could get drugs as easily as guns.

The only way to make it easier for people is if you would throw guns out for free.

America has a elemental problem with not being able to handle emotions well, the first instinct always seems to be using anger or violence.

Banning guns is not the end of it all...its only a first small step into a better direction.
No matter what anybody says, banning weapons would lower the gun incidents a lot.
If i saw it correctly, 2016 in 6 months had 2300 incidents with weapons so far.
That is freaking scary.

 

[Knightfall]

Went on her Facebook... Seemed like a sweet young girl who is the age of one of my younger brothers. In other words she had her whole life ahead of her, poor thing. This kid knew what he was doing and man I hope they throw the book at him and he winds up being someone's personal stress release in prison if you catch my drift. Disgusting little vermin, and people can complain about gun control all they want (Which he did have easy access with it being a hunting community) bottom line is he would have killed her another way sadly.

Such a sad event and my prayers go out to her family and her spirit wherever it may be.