2011 NFL Thread: The Lazarus Season - Part 5

[Donut]

its not just him....the Broncos f'n suck....have for some time now....Tebow (as much as I like the guy) isn't going to improve if the people around him suck

basically everyone sucks right now and Im still baffled that John Fox got the job considering the ****** job he did in Carolina

All of the injuries are popping up now. Players are getting hurt at ****ing practice now

 

[Rowsdower!]

& he still managed to beat the Fins. Next up Raiders

And the Fins haven't managed to beat anybody. They have a bad backup quarterback at the helm, teammates fighting with each other, and a coach who KNOWS he's going to be fired. You'd need to start an armless quarterback to lose to them.

 

[Hound55]

& he still managed to beat the Fins. Next up Raiders

Yes, the winless Fins... led by Matt f***ing Moore.

 

[BlackLantern]

if you ask ETM...Matt Moore is the second coming, not Tim Tebow

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yes, the winless Fins... led by Matt f***ing Moore.

Cue the "Matt Moore will win League MVP someday" response by ETM.

 

[Raiden]

& he still managed to beat the Fins. Next up Raiders

Those 0-7 Miami Dolphins? Yeah, that win was totally impressive.

 

[Boom]

Tim Tebow doesn't have a prayer of beating the Raiders (no pun intended).

 

[Ness]

Don't talk to me alright!!!! KNOCK IT OFF! ********* ***** ***** ****!!!!!!!!

You should hear his recent interview with Peter King. It's really good. He seems like a totally different person.

 

[Ness]

I listened to Cowherd this morning and I agree with him. Cowherd said that Colts must draft Luck, but if they do, they will have to do what the Packers did with their Favre & Rodgers situation, and they must choose Luck over Manning. This season, we already seen rookie QBs like Newton and Dalton doing phenomenal job with their teams, and Luck is more pro-ready than any of them. Why should he sits on the bench and learn from Manning? If Newton and Dalton can do it, so can Luck, and the Colts have enough talents for him to start winning right away. And if Luck does sit on the bench, it'll divide the fan base because if Manning struggles, half of the fans will want Luck to start and the other half want Manning to continue. It'll be just like what Green Bay went through with their QB controversy as well.

Of course, if Manning retires, this debate is moot, but I have a feeling that Manning will be back. Whether he will be 100% or not is obviously still a question mark.

The comparison between the Aaron Rodgers/Brett Favre situation is not a good one in the slightest. These would be two completely different scenarios. Brett Favre hadn't decided if he was coming back or not. The organization couldn't just wait on him forever like they had been doing every single season. They had to do what was best for the organization and decided to move on.

The Colts wouldn't have to choose between Luck and Manning. The Colts could have them both. If the Colts selected Andrew Luck, Manning could still play if he wanted to with the Colts. He's probably going to play another two or three seasons. He's had three neck surgeries in the last three years I think. Maybe it was two years. Whatever the case, he's not going to last much longer. You have to think about what is best for the team going forward. And Manning probably knows this. It's a business.

As for the fanbase, who gives a ****. Since when do they run the team? As long as the team wins, then they'll shut up. If they're divided about who should play, oh well they have no say in what goes on anyways. And Peyton Manning struggling to the point that fans would want to see Andrew Luck play would be surprising.

Again, I don't see how this is a waste of talent. Andrew Luck's talent wouldn't vanish because he's not playing. You could even say that Luck's talent could really be wasted by going to a terrible team and expecting him to be Superman and save the franchise and turn them into a contender right off the bat. A lot of rookie quarterbacks have done well in the last decade or so, but at the same time a lot of those quarterbacks that have been rookies and done well have also had good talent around them. This fits the bill for Roethlisberger, Flacco, Dalton and Ryan. Miami has virtually nothing. Things could always change in one offseason of course, but in that division he would have a lot on his plate.

 

[Rowsdower!]

You should hear his recent interview with Peter King. It's really good. He seems like a totally different person.

That's probably because Peter King glues his lips to the ass of anyone who takes the time to talk to him. t:


In all seriousness though, hopefully Leaf did mature. But man, he was a *****e and a half when he was in the NFL.

 

[Hound55]

The comparison between the Aaron Rodgers/Brett Favre situation is not a good one in the slightest. These would be two completely different scenarios. Brett Favre hadn't decided if he was coming back or not. The organization couldn't just wait on him forever like they had been doing every single season. They had to do what was best for the organization and decided to move on.

The Colts wouldn't have to choose between Luck and Manning. The Colts could have them both. If the Colts selected Andrew Luck, Manning could still play if he wanted to with the Colts. He's probably going to play another two or three seasons. He's had three neck surgeries in the last three years I think. Maybe it was two years. Whatever the case, he's not going to last much longer. You have to think about what is best for the team going forward. And Manning probably knows this. It's a business.

As for the fanbase, who gives a ****. Since when do they run the team? As long as the team wins, then they'll shut up. If they're divided about who should play, oh well they have no say in what goes on anyways. And Peyton Manning struggling to the point that fans would want to see Andrew Luck play would be surprising.

Again, I don't see how this is a waste of talent. Andrew Luck's talent wouldn't vanish because he's not playing. You could even say that Luck's talent could really be wasted by going to a terrible team and expecting him to be Superman and save the franchise and turn them into a contender right off the bat. A lot of rookie quarterbacks have done well in the last decade or so, but at the same time a lot of those quarterbacks that have been rookies and done well have also had good talent around them. This fits the bill for Roethlisberger, Flacco, Dalton and Ryan. Miami has virtually nothing. Things could always change in one offseason of course, but in that division he would have a lot on his plate.

Plus the entire Colts offense revolves around Peyton's readability of on-field situations and suitable reactions. It's not exactly an easy scenario for a QB to be in as we've seen with both a steady veteran in Kerry Collins and a young kid who's had years to learn their system in Painter.

Personally, I wouldn't view it as a waste at all, from the Colts perspective, to draft Luck and shelve him for a few years.

 

[enterthemadness]

if you ask ETM...Matt Moore is the second coming, not Tim Tebow

Matt Moore is a future UFL Champion at the rate he's going...I'm still baffled at how he had a good 1st half, then a dreadful second half last game. Whatever...he'll lead them to a few wins. Or Losman will.

 

[enterthemadness]

Is Delhomme Magic the uncanny ability to find the cornerback or the safety everytime you throw the ball?

In his later seasons, yes.

Also I quoted the wrong quote when talking about how Miami would go 2-14 & Colts 0-16, but whatever.

Also just let Tebow & Moore start rest of year. Just cmon...you're not going anywhere Denver with Fox and Miami is just DOA.

 

[Hound55]

Well of course Miami's going to start Moore the rest of the year. Henne's out for the season and they don't have anything else.

If they had something else they'd be using it.

They're really missing him to, guy had heart in spades.

 

[enterthemadness]

Moore looks defeated in press conference's. Or he sucks at public speaking...he wore his Fins hat backwards...you probably shouldn't be wearing a hat BACKWARDS in a presser...

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Moore looks defeated in press conference's. Or he sucks at public speaking...he wore his Fins hat backwards...you probably shouldn't be wearing a hat BACKWARDS in a presser...

Romo does it all the time

Spoiler

 

[enterthemadness]

Explains why Romo doesn't care...Dallas needs Kitna. I actually didn't hate them with Kitna starting. Moore>Romo, I said it...heard me. Only good Romo did was Jessica Simpson.

 

[Hound55]

I agree, as much as Kitna is susceptible to his own brain-farts he's mostly got over his "Yeah, I can probably squeeze that pass in there" attitude and he's probably a better option for Dallas than Romo is.

He sure as hell doesn't choke as spectacularly...

 

[Darthphere]

Are we seriously analyzing how a guy wears his hat?

 

[Hound55]

As long as he's not wearing his helmet backwards I don't particularly care...

 

[Hush]

The places you see Romo throw the ball on the field sometimes you would think he has his helmet on backwards.

 

[Ness]

Explains why Romo doesn't care...Dallas needs Kitna. I actually didn't hate them with Kitna starting. Moore>Romo, I said it...heard me. Only good Romo did was Jessica Simpson.

Matt Moore is not better than Tony Romo, please.

 

[Immortalfire]

etm is Moore's agent/father/lover/something. He has to plug him.

 

[Dr. Evil]

so what is the reason that the Colts have not placed Manning on IR yet?

 

[BlackLantern]

because the Colts will not make that decision....Peyton Manning will tell them