2012: A Monster Year? (box office predictions)

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Worldwide:

1. The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - 1.4 billions.
2. The Dark Knight Rises - 1.2 billions.
3. Twilight Breaking Dawn: Part 2 - 1 Billion.
4. Ice Age 4 - 1 billion.
5. The Amazing Spider-Man - 990 millions.

I don't see how Twilight will break a billion when Eclipse only made about $700 million. Its not getting a 3D boost(as of now) and inflation will not increase it by that much. Sure there are repeat viewings from the fans but that only does so much since most of the fans repeat already.
 
Do not underestimate the Twilight fans. And I have read the books and I know what is to come in this last movie. This movie will be a huge hit. Bigger than expected.

Just the fact that the movie will have sex will bring even more teen girls.
 
Tolkien fans dwarf all comics fans combined.

And internationally that will make a difference. But domestically? Mainstream GA dwarf fans and fanboys of any property. And right now the mainstream is stoked about a sequel to TDK. A prequel ten years later to LOTR? Sure, but it's not exactly something EW or CNN is following with each new official picture or blurb released because most people don't care right now.
 
And internationally that will make a difference. But domestically? Mainstream GA dwarf fans and fanboys of any property. And right now the mainstream is stoked about a sequel to TDK. A prequel ten years later to LOTR? Sure, but it's not exactly something EW or CNN is following with each new official picture or blurb released because most people don't care right now.

Absolutely untrue. Every time there has been movement on The Hobbit, EW has reported on it. Many of the official pics we have were initially released through EW and just a few months ago they had a 4 page spread of pictures with an interview with Peter Jackson.

Hell, back in 2007 when WB acquired the rights, they gave the Hobbit the cover. Think about that, a cover story for rights acquisition.

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Do not underestimate the Twilight fans. And I have read the books and I know what is to come in this last movie. This movie will be a huge hit. Bigger than expected.

Just the fact that the movie will have sex will bring even more teen girls.

Your not answering my question, how do you expect Part 2 to hit $1 billion when Eclipse made only $700 million WW, that is quite a jump.

Yes I've read the books too and even many of the fans agree its the worse book out of all of them. Any part involving sex happens in the Part 1 and if teen girls haven't jumped on by now I don't see why they would at the last movie.
 
this is a thread about the BO. so lets talk about money. Avengers trailer is out. looks like a fanboy's dream movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuR3wSKeNOc

the trailer doesnt make it look like a movie everyone must see.i think it will underperform so much that fans will cry like babies.

p.s.: Marvel is so cheap that they used a shot from IM 2008 and a 2D promo image from Johanson.
 
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this is a thread about the BO. so lets talk about money. Avengers trailer is out. looks like a fanboy's dream movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuR3wSKeNOc

the trailer doesnt make it look like a movie everyone must see.i think it will underperform so much that fans will cry like babies.

p.s.: Marvel is so cheap that they used a shot from IM 2008 and a 2D promo image from Johanson.

It's funny that you say it looks like a "fanboy's dream movie". While I was viewing the trailer I couldn't shake the feeling that I was watching something fan made. OTOH, The Avengers at least looks more epic from an action standpoint than the other Marvel movies have. I expect it'll make about as much as the IM movies, maybe slightly more. I think that's the upper limit for Marvel movies. They just haven't done enough to lure in people who aren't already superhero movie fans.
 
"Hobbit," "Twilight" Top Most Anticipated List


By Garth Franklin Friday December 9th 2011 11:15AM
Fandango has conducted a poll amongst their user base for the most anticipated movies of next year, splitting the results by both gender and separating both remakes and films overall.
The results prove a tad surprising, especially the higher than expected placements of Baz Luhrmann's "The Great Gatsby", Len Wiseman's "Total Recall" remake and Tarsem Singh's "Mirror Mirror":
THE MOST ANTICIPATED BLOCKBUSTER IN 2012:
According to Men:

  1. The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (Warner Bros)
  2. The Avengers (Marvel/Disney)
  3. The Dark Knight Rises (Warner Bros)
  4. The Bourne Legacy (Universal)
  5. Men in Black III (Sony)
According to Women:

  1. The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, Part 2 (Summit)
  2. The Hunger Games (Lionsgate)
  3. The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (Warner Bros)
  4. Dark Shadows (Warner Bros)
  5. The Avengers (Marvel/Disney)
THE MOST ANTICIPATED REMAKE IN 2012:
According to Men:

  1. Total Recall (Sony)
  2. The Amazing Spider-Man (Sony)
  3. The Great Gatsby (Warner Bros)
  4. Snow White And The Huntsman (Universal)
  5. Mirror Mirror (Relativity)
According to Women:

  1. Snow White And The Huntsman (Universal)
  2. The Great Gatsby (Warner Bros)
  3. Mirror Mirror (Relativity)
  4. Total Recall (Sony)
  5. The Amazing Spider-Man (Sony)
 
^TDKR is behind The Avengers and The Hobbit? :huh: Okay, The Hobbit I can see, but I can't fathom how The Avengers could be more anticipated.
 
because it's the first major superhero crossover ever put to feature film. tdkr is the what, the teneth batman move ever made?
 
^TDKR is behind The Avengers and The Hobbit? :huh: Okay, The Hobbit I can see, but I can't fathom how The Avengers could be more anticipated.

I can easily see how it beat out TDKR. It's something NEW and unprecedented. TDKR isn't.
 
because it's the first major superhero crossover ever put to feature film. tdkr is the what, the teneth batman move ever made?

I can easily see how it beat out TDKR. It's something NEW and unprecedented. TDKR isn't.

But TDKR is coming off TDK, the highest-grossing superhero film ever. Aside from Iron Man, none of the Marvel movies have really broken the bank. This poll either indicates that the Joker is vastly more popular than Batman, or Fandango users are huge Marvel fans. :yay:
 
I wouldn't put much stock in that poll. Fandango users are such a small percentage of the audience, and that's not even all Fandango users who voted on it (I know I use Fandango and I didn't). I doubt it's a large enough sample size to be all that accurate.

That said, I could understand Avengers being more highly anticipated than TDKR (like others have mentioned, it's more novel)...but I bet if that poll were taken AFTER the TDKR prologue and trailer had been released, it might have gotten different results. I've noticed that people always seem to underestimate the "epicness" of Chris Nolan films before they see footage. Once the footage comes out, everyone's just kinda like "holy s*** MUST SEE." (at least, that seemed to be the case with TDK and Inception).
 
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Biz preps for tentpole turnaround

'Dark Knight Rises,' 'Avengers,' 'Hobbit' will fuel B.O.


Andrew Stewart & Jeff Sneider said:
Summer tentpoles "The Avengers," "The Amazing Spider-Man" and "The Dark Knight Rises," and bankable fall entries such as the final "Twilight" and first "Hobbit" pics have the biz looking forward to more B.O. cheer in 2012.

On Thursday, Variety analyzes 2011's box office ups and downs.


Here's a peek at what's in store for next year:


High on everyone's list of potential early blockbusters is Lionsgate's late-March entry "The Hunger Games," the first installment in Suzanne Collins' bestselling young adult book trilogy. "Games" is followed just a week later by "Wrath of the Titans" -- Warner Bros.' 3D follow-up to 2010's "Clash of the Titans," which grossed north of $163 million domestically.


Those pics, as well as fellow March entries including "Dr. Seuss' The Lorax," from Universal and Illumination Entertainment, and Paramount's "Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters," could keep bizzers happy through the end of the first quarter. Successes such as 2010's "Alice in Wonderland" and "How to Train Your Dragon" were a hard act to follow in 2011, leading to big first-quarter dropoffs.


There's plenty to offer even before March, however.


In early January, Universal will bow Mark Wahlberg-Kate Beckinsale thriller "Contraband," and during that same weekend, Disney looks to replicate this year's success of "The Lion King" 3D re-release with a multidimensional treatment of "Beauty and the Beast."


Sony-Screen Gems' fourth "Underworld" installment, "Awakening," launches in 3D a week later on Jan. 20. "Awakening" marks the franchise's third January opener; the first pic debuted in September 2003.


Other noteworthy first-quarter entries include Fox's action comedy "This Means War" and Sony's 3D "Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance," both launching the weekend of Feb. 17; Universal's Jennifer Aniston-Paul Rudd romantic comedy "Wanderlust" (Feb. 24); Disney's big-budget tentpole "John Carter" (March 9); the Todd Phillips-produced WB comedy "Project X" (March 2) featuring a largely unknown cast; and Sony's "21 Jump Street," which bows March 16.


Pics from outside the majors that could boost first-quarter B.O. include Steven Soderbergh's "Haywire," which Relativity Media is releasing Jan. 20; Open Road's sophomore title "The Grey" and Summit's "Man on a Ledge," both bowing a week later on Jan. 27; and Lionsgate's Tyler Perry offering "Good Deeds" (Feb. 24).

Usual summer suspects

Even without "Harry Potter" or "Transformers," summer 2012 is bursting at the seams with tentpoles.

A sked packed with potential new franchises and plenty of sequels kicks off the weekend of May 4 with Disney-Marvel Entertainment's "The Avengers." Warner Bros.' "Dark Shadows" -- Tim Burton's adaptation of the cult 1960s TV serial -- bows a week later, followed by Universal's "Battleship" (May 18) and "Men in Black 3," which Sony will launch over Memorial Day weekend.


Missing from the May lineup, however, is the usual kidpic from DreamWorks Animation, which had "Kung Fu Panda 2" this year and "Shrek Forever After" in 2010. June kicks off with director Adam Shankman's Tom Cruise tuner "Rock of Ages," looking to repeat the summer success of Shankman's July 2007 musical entry "Hairspray," which cumed almost $120 million domestically. Standing in its way could be Kristen Stewart, who toplines Universal's dark fairy-tale adaptation "Snow White and the Huntsman," opening June 1.


The week of June 8, Ridley Scott's sci-fi epic "Prometheus" will vie for adult auds, while kids can pick DWA's "Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted." That film will have a corner on the family market until Disney opens its first female-powered pic from Pixar, "Brave," on June 22, when Fox's adult-skewing "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" also bows.


After an extended absence, Bryan Singer returns to theaters June 15 with another dark fairytale "Jack the Giant Killer," which will try to slay Adam Sandler's comedy, "I Hate You Dad," at the box office.


The final week of June, Channing Tatum squares off against himself: He toplines Steven Soderbergh's male stripper pic "Magic Mike" and will hand off the "G.I. Joe" franchise to Dwayne Johnson, who will be joined in the sequel, subtitled "Retaliation," by Bruce Willis, playing the original Joe.


July remains light so far in terms of the number of releases, but a pair of heavyweight superhero tentpoles -- "The Amazing Spider-Man" and "The Dark Knight Rises" -- should make up for fewer openers.


Sandwiched between those B.O. brawlers will be Fox's fourth installment in the mega-hit "Ice Age" franchise, "Continental Drift," and Seth MacFarlane's "Ted," which stars Mark Wahlberg and a foul-mouthed CG-animated teddy bear.


August, meanwhile, should start with a bang, as Universal begins a new chapter in its Jason Bourne franchise with "The Bourne Legacy." That pic should rival Sony's reboot of "Total Recall," starring Colin Farrell. Both pics play opposite "Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Dog Days" -- the third in Fox's kidpic series.


The rest of August features a diverse lineup ranging from Sylvester Stallone's action ensembler "The Expendables 2" to Focus Features' animated "Paranorman."


Fall holiday highlights


Once considered a B.O. dumping ground, the month of September is now worthwhile real estate, especially for gender-specific and genre pics, and 2012's slate is set to prove that theory.


Sony-Screen Gems' "Resident Evil 5" opens two weeks after Labor Day, fighting for screens with Ben Affleck's "Argo," set against the Iran hostage crisis. During the last week of September, Universal's Oliver Stone-helmed drug crime thriller "Savages" bows alongside Sony sci-fier "Looper."


October features the requisite genre pics, including "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D" and Tim Burton's animated "Frankenweenie," both of which will battle Fox's Liam Neeson starrer "Taken 2" on Oct. 5. Warner Bros.' period crime drama "Gangster Squad" bows Oct. 19.


On Nov. 2, FilmDistrict will finally unveil MGM's long-delayed "Red Dawn" remake, starring "Thor" thesp Chris Hemsworth. Pic launches alongside Disney's animated "Wreck-It Ralph" and Paramount's Seth Rogen-Barbra Streisand comedy "My Mother's Curse."


B.O. observers will then turn their focus to Sony and Sam Mendes' James Bond pic "Skyfall" and Summit's final "Twilight" installment, which bows the week before Thanksgiving -- in a release strategy similar to that of "Breaking Dawn -- Part 1." (That pic bowed mid-week, while "Breaking Dawn -- Part 2" launches on a Friday, looking to rival Warner's opening three-day record set by the "Harry Potter" finale.)


Alfonso Cuaron's ambitious sci-fi two-hander "Gravity," starring Sandra Bullock and George Clooney, could be a box office dark horse.


The year's holiday moviegoing will continue with "The King's Speech" helmer Tom Hooper's take on "Les Miserables," which bows Dec. 7. One of the most-anticipated films of 2012 is Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey," which finds its way out of the shire on Dec. 14.


A typical December logjam is already shaping up a week later: Five wide releases include Judd Apatow's "This Is 40," from Universal; Par's zombie pic "World War Z" and Fox's 3D adaptation of "Life of Pi." Relativity's actioner "Hunter Killer" and Sony's Kathryn Bigelow-Mark Boal untitled project about the hunt for Osama bin Laden are also slated to bow over the Christmas frame.


This year, Steven Spielberg competed against himself on Christmas Day -- in 2012, Leonardo DiCaprio does double duty in both Quentin Tarantino's spaghetti Western "Django Unchained" and Baz Luhrmann's "The Great Gatsby."

Up in the air


Pics set for 2012 but not yet dated include Steven Spielberg's "Lincoln," from Disney-DreamWorks, and Focus' "Anna Karenina."


Elsewhere, the Weinstein Company has Paul Thomas Anderson's sure-to-be controversial religious drama "The Master," which stars Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Joaquin Phoenix. TWC also has Tobey Maguire-starrer "The Details," which bowed to mixed reviews at Sundance in January.


Tom Tykwer and the Wachowski siblings return to theaters with "Cloud Atlas," an ambitious, big-budget epic starring Tom Hanks and Halle Berry.


Looking to repeat the success of "Midnight in Paris," Sony Classics just acquired Woody Allen's next film "Nero Fiddled," which does not have a release date yet but will likely debut in 2012. Pic stars Alec Baldwin, Roberto Benigni, Penelope Cruz, Jesse Eisenberg and Ellen Page.


While Walter Salles' adaptation of Jack Kerouac's "On the Road" is still in search of a distributor, expect it to make its festival debut at some point in 2012. Also seeking a distributor is Mel Gibson-starrer "How I Spent My Summer Vacation," which could be ready to roll out next year.


Robert Redford's political thriller "The Company You Keep" and Terrence Malick's next untitled film starring Ben Affleck, Javier Bardem, Rachel Weisz and Rachel McAdams are also expected to bow in 2012.
 
2012: my prediction....are

1. The Avengers
2. The Amazing Spider-Man
3. The Hobbit
4. Men In Black 3
5. The Raid
6. Ghost Rider Vengeance
7. TDKR
 
not gonna like i may be alone but Snow White and the huntsman is the film i am looking forward the most lol

i love me some dark fantasy/adventure films

just love films that involved a long journey is why i love lord of the rings films

the trailer looks amazing and has a great cast and a director with lots of promise
 
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey- $1.1-1.2 Billion
The Avengers- $1.02-1.04 Billion
The Dark Knight Rises- $980 Million- 1.02 Billion
Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn- Part 2- $800 Million
The Amazing Spider-Man- $750 Million
 
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There's no way Avengers beats Batman.

I'm not even saying that as a fan, it's just Batman has both the better reputation and the history of performing, well, phenomenally. I'd honestly expect TDKR to eclipse TDK.
 
But TDKR is coming off TDK, the highest-grossing superhero film ever. Aside from Iron Man, none of the Marvel movies have really broken the bank. This poll either indicates that the Joker is vastly more popular than Batman, or Fandango users are huge Marvel fans. :yay:

I think that, while TDK was a good movie, it made its half billion due to the popularity of Heath Ledger's Joker. I have no doubt that TDKR will do well at the box office, but personally I doubt it will be able to catch the lightning in a bottle like TDK did, even though they've upped the ante with both Bane and Catwoman in the movie.

As for The Avengers, it has never been attempted before, putting several superheroes who had their own successful solo movies together in one epic film. Time will tell if the hype is justified, but I don't think it should be a surprise that moviegoers are very excited about this movie.
 
and imo avengers has a more exciting trailer for casual audiences

as fan i was left cold to TDKR trailer
 
I think that, while TDK was a good movie, it made its half billion due to the popularity of Heath Ledger's Joker. I have no doubt that TDKR will do well at the box office, but personally I doubt it will be able to catch the lightning in a bottle like TDK did, even though they've upped the ante with both Bane and Catwoman in the movie.

As for The Avengers, it has never been attempted before, putting several superheroes who had their own successful solo movies together in one epic film. Time will tell if the hype is justified, but I don't think it should be a surprise that moviegoers are very excited about this movie.
Yeah, but at the same time, TDK wasn't nearly as anticipated as TDKR is. I mean, everyone knew BB was good, there was the whole buzz about Ledger's Joker...but the excitement for it among the GA definitely wasn't as big as TDKR's...even now.

Because now, the GA has seen TDK and Inception and they're very intimately aware of just how damn good Nolan is...and I think it's going to show.
 
and imo avengers has a more exciting trailer for casual audiences

as fan i was left cold to TDKR trailer

I thought the trailer for TDKR seems almost like Inception meets Batman, due to the large presence of Inception alumnis (Tom Hardy, Michael Caine, Marion Cotillard, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and maybe even Cillian Murphy if Scarecrow returns). And the Batman logo--with its building crumbling--reminds me strongly of Inception. I love Inception and I thought it's one of Nolan's best, but there's too many similarities between that movie and TDKR imo.
 
Haha, I honestly think Nolan has garnered this infamous rep of being the director that, if you say you don't care for one of his movies you must be a literal moron, or not smart enough to get it.
 
The TDKR trailer has broken iTunes record with over 12.5 million downloads in 24 hours. That's a much better sample of general audience interest than a Fandango poll. Anyone who thinks The Avengers or anything else has the slightest chance of even coming close to (let alone outgross) Batman's numbers next year is deluding themselves. And of course, it's just another nail in the coffin of those who keep on trying to convince themselves that TDK made all that money just because of Heath Ledger.

It's 2008's "no way TDK makes more than Indiana Jones" argument all over again, except this time, the hype train for TDKR is bigger and faster than it was for its predecessor. How's that for odds?
 
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