2013/2014 NFL Thread: Time to Scream!

[Dr. Evil]

Think Gruden is riding on his is riding that Super Bowl victory more than his actual coaching abilities. Didn't he rely mostly on his veterans on the teams he was a part of?

Still though his name has been linked to every NFL vacancy since he left coaching.

Hell, his name has even been mentioned for some college vacancies.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Washington Bravehearts?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...on-redskins-become-the-washington-bravehearts

 

[Erzengel]

Firewaters

 

[Erzengel]

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I saw that

Those cannons are loud as fug.

 

[Warhammer]

Here's the video:



I was dying.

 

[Kaleb]

Mike Williams told the Tampa Tribune he has a torn hamstring.
Williams was previously believed to only be dealing with a hamstring strain. If true, it's a potentially season-ending injury. Williams is looking at missing extended time and could be placed on injured reserve.

As if they needed any more problems.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Here's the video:



I was dying.

Mooch nearly had a heart attack!!! Cam appears to have some experience in dealing with shots being fired though.

 

[Hush]

Hey guys remember there is a London game this week!.........yeah no one else cares either.

 

[JaD]

I saw that

Those cannons are loud as fug.

That was a pretty natural reaction in my opinion

But I love how he ducks out of frame

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

Tampa is just a practice game for other teams.

 

[signalman]

Hey guys remember there is a London game this week!.........yeah no one else cares either.

In 2014 there will 3 games in London that NO one will care about.

http://nfl.si.com/2013/10/24/nfl-london-games-2014-season/

 

[Matt]

Think Gruden is riding on his is riding that Super Bowl victory more than his actual coaching abilities. Didn't he rely mostly on his veterans on the teams he was a part of?

Sure. Same can even be said of Tony Dungy. Take Peyton Manning out of the equation and you have a good coach, not a great one, with an absolutely TERRIBLE playoff record, who built his entire team around a single player and was never able to adapt when things got bad for his team.

Dungy's legacy is preserved because he had the good sense to get the hell out of Dodge toward the end of Manning's career before Manning got injured. If Dungy were coaching during the 2011 season, he would've been humiliated and ultimately fired, much in the same way that Jim Caldwell was. The reason Dungy will never return is because he knows that he will never have another Peyton Manning to lean on.

Dungy, Brian Billick are good (not great) coaches, who are part of the second tier of their generation. Top tier of that generation being Belichick, Cowher and Coughlin (mind you, I consider Jimmy Johnson, Mike Holmgren and Bill Parcells to be part of the previous generation who just kinda leaked over into the current one a bit).

There are four other prominent coaches of that generation: Jon Gruden, Jeff Fisher, Andy Reid and Mike Shanahan and the jury is still out as to which tier those men will ultimately land in.

Jon Gruden is young enough that he can (and probably will) come back. I think that return will ultimately determine where his final legacy lies. If he doesn't coach again, I'd say he is in the second tier. If he coaches again and tanks, he could fall into the third tier. If he coaches and excels, he could be a top tier coach of his generation.

Andy Reid, as he stands right now, is lower second tier and arguably third tier with Marvin Lewis. If he actually turns KC around (and I suspect it is a fluke that is predicated by a very easy schedule and will result in one and done), he could make the argument for upper-second and even top tier....Though I'd say even with a Super Bowl ring, all of his missteps suggest that he remains solidly in the second tier. Same with Jeff Fisher.

Shanahan is an interesting one....if he stayed retired, argument could be made that he is top tier. As it is, he is tarnishing his legacy by the day and making it more and more apparent that he rode Elway's coattails. He is, IMO, third tier.

Of the current generation, the only one who I'd say is even in the discussion as elite is Sean Payton. Yes, other coaches have rings...but Payton is the only one who has consistently built teams, adapted, and shown the football IQ needed to be considered elite, IMO.

 

[Darthphere]

But you can make that argument with any coach thats considered great. Most great coaches weren't coaching a team with scrubs.

 

[Matt]

But you can make that argument with any coach thats considered great. Most great coaches weren't coaching a team with scrubs.

But most built their teams rather than (as is Dungy's case) walked into a team with arguably the best quarterback ever.

 

[Warhammer]

Yeah, I'd say an argument can be made that Sean Payton is something special. I mean hell, turn the clocks back to a year ago. It's more than just Drew Brees (who many can make the argument that he's the best QB in the league right now).

 

[Mr. Dent]

So what are the chances of the Bucs going 0-16? I will literally hang myself because they'll have a weaker schedule than us and thus get the first pick over us if they did.

I mean, how ****ed up would it be if one of the worst teams in NFL history didn't even get the number 1 pick?

 

[Immortalfire]

So what are the chances of the Bucs going 0-16? I will literally hang myself because they'll have a weaker schedule than us and thus get the first pick over us if they did.

I mean, how ****ed up would it be if one of the worst teams in NFL history didn't even get the number 1 pick?

I literally doubt that.

 

[Darthphere]

I literally will make sure that happens.

 

[Venom'sDad]

So what are the chances of the Bucs going 0-16? I will literally hang myself because they'll have a weaker schedule than us and thus get the first pick over us if they did.

I mean, how ****ed up would it be if one of the worst teams in NFL history didn't even get the number 1 pick?

I literally doubt that.

I literally think it's a certainty...the players have given up on their coach; and, is playing as if they want him gone. You know what I'm saying here....

 

[DoomsdayApex]

How good is Luke Kuechly? He's so good that St. Louis and Tampa Bay used a spy on him. I have never heard of anything like that before.

 

[Immortalfire]

Why do the Jaguars seem to be the team that always gets suckered into these London games?

 

[Venom'sDad]

I suspect the Jags will eventually move to London within three years. They would have played 4 straight games there, in just as many years. I think the league is trying to acclimate everyone for the inevitable move.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Next year, the Jaguars will be playing in London again. Their opponent for the London Game?

The Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Darthphere]

I suspect the Jags will eventually move to London within three years. They would have played 4 straight games there, in just as many years. I think the league is trying to acclimate everyone for the inevitable move.

It helps that Khan just recently bought Fulham as well which is a London based soccer club.