2013/2014 NFL Thread: Where Hawks Fly - Part 8

[Duke]

Washington Sentinels. It's a decent enough name, and it comes with Keanu Reeves as QB

Watch Fox come dashing in with a lawsuit.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I don't usually visit this forum but I just read the Redskins lost their trademark.

I like it. It's like when they finally got Al Capone on tax evasion charges.

I'd expect a name change within 2 years if they lose the appeal. They'd lose WAY too much money.

"Washington Warriors" has a nice ring to it.

 

[Immortalfire]

Warriors would offend those who are descended from warriors of ancient times.


Let's think of how other team names are offensive.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The Washington Homeless

 

[Immortalfire]

The Vikings are probably offensive to some. Many of our ancestors were plundered by the vikings.

 

[Teelie]

Warriors would offend those who are descended from warriors of ancient times.

Let's think of how other team names are offensive.

There is a long list of potentially offensive names in sports but most of them get a pass (or a walk, occasionally a free-throw ).

It will be only a matter of time before the Indians, Seminoles, Braves, Vikings, Warriors, Buffalo Bills (racist connotation here), Chiefs, Pirates, Raiders, Buccaneers (sure are a lot of pirate-y teams, aren't there?) Devils, Royals, Kings (NHL & NBA, lot of royalty too) and the Wizards (don't piss off a wizard) have to change their names.

Joking aside, I do think it is long time for the Redskins to have a name change. The list above is just off the top of my head and a skim through the professional league teams so it could easily spread to dozens of teams being forced to rename themselves if this gets out of hand.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

There is a long list of potentially offensive names in sports but most of them get a pass (or a walk, occasionally a free-throw ).

It will be only a matter of time before the Indians, Seminoles, Braves, Vikings, Warriors, Buffalo Bills (racist connotation here), Chiefs, Pirates, Raiders, Buccaneers (sure are a lot of pirate-y teams, aren't there?) Devils, Royals, Kings (NHL & NBA, lot of royalty too) and the Wizards (don't piss off a wizard) have to change their names.

Joking aside, I do think it is long time for the Redskins to have a name change. The list above is just off the top of my head and a skim through the professional league teams so it could easily spread to dozens of teams being forced to rename themselves if this gets out of hand.

There's no other team in the Big 4 U.S. Pro sports that's nickname is a racial slur. This isnt going to spread. The whole "slippery slope" argument with this thing is ridiculous.

 

[Teelie]

Since when has that stopped an overreach of political correctness? The Seminoles, Indians, Chiefs and Braves have all been targeted for being racist in the past.

 

[Immortalfire]

Don't forget the Blackhawks too.

 

[Figs]

Hahaha, stay classy Sherman...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11104947/richard-sherman-seattle-seahawks-keys-minicamp-scuffle

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Since when has that stopped an overreach of political correctness? The Seminoles, Indians, Chiefs and Braves have all been targeted for being racist in the past.

But of course, not the Celtics or the Fighting Irish.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Hahaha, stay classy Sherman...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11104947/richard-sherman-seattle-seahawks-keys-minicamp-scuffle

Eh, it happens. Like in every mini camp / training camp ever.

 

[Duke]

Texans QB T.J Yates traded to Falcons.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ns-for-akeem-dent-latest-details-and-reaction

 

[Lantern Venom]

There's no other team in the Big 4 U.S. Pro sports that's nickname is a racial slur. This isnt going to spread. The whole "slippery slope" argument with this thing is ridiculous.

"Indians" is considered by some to be a racial slur because of the geographical confusion in its etymology. Since its become associated with the likes of Chief Wahoo, it's even more questionable.

 

[Dr. Evil]

"Indians" is considered by some to be a racial slur because of the geographical confusion in its etymology. Since its become associated with the likes of Chief Wahoo, it's even more questionable.

The term "Indians" has a double meaning. On one hand, yes, the term has racial overtones. On the other hand though that term is also used to describe a whole nationality of people, which in that case is not offensive at all.

When most people use the term Indians these days, they are referring to people from the country of India or those who's ancestry is from India.

 

[mkilban2]

Idk how people in DC feel about losing the Redskin name/logo but I know I'd be pretty upset if we had to change from being the Indians or lose Chief Wahoo altogether. They've certainly scaled back on using him as a logo, its on one sleeve of the jerseys and an occasional hat, but i don't believe they use it in promotional stuff anymore. But I can of course see where people get upset.

 

[Immortalfire]

20 team names that are offensive. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/148...pro-college-sports-obama-hasnt-said-anything/

 

[Themanofbat]

I like the Washington Red Hawks!

 

[Zeus]

Texans QB T.J Yates traded to Falcons.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ns-for-akeem-dent-latest-details-and-reaction

Game changer

 

[Duke]

Game changer

If you're a Falcons fan & that makes you feel better.

 

[Immortalfire]

I like the Washington Red Hawks!

That is offensive.

 

[Teelie]

20 team names that are offensive. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/148...pro-college-sports-obama-hasnt-said-anything/

There are a few problems with this article (namely, he's using the Obama Administration as a target despite this being a decades-long effort spanning multiple administrations), and writing off an entire population as "a few people." Many of his points are lost in his obvious snark to defend the Redskins losing their name.

I think the Redskins need a name change but I'm also wary of the slippery slope of a name potentially offending and therefore needing changed (hence, my joke about some of them above). The Indians and to a lesser extent, the Braves and Chiefs might be offensive and have been challenged in the past but their offensiveness is less blatant than a normally derogatory title.

Acknowleding my own "list" above, his argument loses some credibility with obvious sexist remarks like the Cougars being offensive to older women among others that are in his own words, "childish and irrational" which is exactly how he applied his response to the list of "offensive" team names.

The defense he used, "It would be a whole different story if: Vikings were alive today still pillaging towns, the U.S. government and Native Americans were still at war, and the San Diego Padres were somehow part of the Spanish Inquisition. But the thing is – they aren’t." is really close to the border of justifying a team named "The Negroes" or something even more offensive I don't need to state, because it's in the past and therefore it is no longer cause for concern.

Or maybe he is being extremely sarcastic and I'm just missing the point. In which case he might want to tone it down a little. The Redskins name crosses the thin line between honoring and offending enough people it's clearly not going to change opinions any time soon.

 

[MrMaooz]

Texans QB T.J Yates traded to Falcons.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ns-for-akeem-dent-latest-details-and-reaction

why

 

[Themanofbat]

That is offensive.

You're offensive!!!

 

[Immortalfire]

You're offensive!!!

This too, is offensive.