A Case For Creation

[Maxwell Smart]

Then don't lock your doors at night. Illusions can't break in and hurt you. Don't pay your light bill......money is just an illusion. The power company will understand.

Its no less silly than believing in a creator period you braindead moron.

It doesn't bother me when people choose to believe, what BOTHERS me is silly little ****s like yourself who truely think your way of believing is superior and would even have the audacity to put down beliefs of others that are just as much based in faith as your's. It shows you are a small, self-absorbed person.

 

[celldog]

Its no less silly than believing in a creator period you braindead moron.


Well...there goes the name-calling! LOL You guys really get worked up over this. Why can't you just intelligently re-inforce your position without the insults? Are you truly as confident in your position as you say??


It doesn't bother me when people choose to believe, what BOTHERS me is silly little ****s like yourself who truely think your way of believing is superior and would even have the audacity to put down beliefs of others that are just as much based in faith as your's. It shows you are a small, self-absorbed person.

Well, don't you "believe" that "your" way of thinking is "superior " to mine?? You've put my beliefs down as well. Also, I can respect the fact that you think differently. But if I believe in my cause, there is no way I can call yours equal to mine. Both cannot be right. It's not logical.
So, it's okay to disagree. It's okay to be free to "SAY SO" as well. Problem is, you don't want an opposing view out there at all. You'd rather we be quiet.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

I don't put down the belief in a higher power.

I put down blind allegiance to religious doctrine which does NOT go hand-in-hand with belief in a higher power.

I don't think I am superior for NOT believing in God, yet your comments clearly demonstrate you think of your take on God as superior. Its all FAITH so to genuinely think you have something over any other person on this planet when it comes to the nature of our existence is arrogant and self-absorbed to the Nth degree.

 

[huskerwebhead]

Found this a few weeks ago and thought it was hilarious:

Moderator: We're here today to debate the hot new topic, evolution versus Intelligent Des---

(Scientist pulls out baseball bat.)

Moderator: Hey, what are you doing?

(Scientist breaks Intelligent Design advocate's kneecap.)

Intelligent Design advocate: YEAAARRRRGGGHHHH! YOU BROKE MY KNEECAP!

Scientist: Perhaps it only appears that I broke your kneecap. Certainly, all the evidence points to the hypothesis I broke your kneecap. For example, your kneecap is broken; it appears to be a fresh wound; and I am holding a baseball bat, which is spattered with your blood. However, a mere preponderance of evidence doesn't mean anything. Perhaps your kneecap was designed that way. Certainly, there are some features of the current situation that are inexplicable according to the "naturalistic" explanation you have just advanced, such as the exact contours of the excruciating pain that you are experiencing right now.

Intelligent Design advocate: AAAAH! THE PAIN!

Scientist: Frankly, I personally find it completely implausible that the random actions of a scientist such as myself could cause pain of this particular kind. I have no precise explanation for why I find this hypothesis implausible --- it just is. Your knee must have been designed that way!

Intelligent Design advocate: YOU BASTARD! YOU KNOW YOU DID IT!

Scientist: I surely do not. How can we know anything for certain? Frankly, I think we should expose people to all points of view. Furthermore, you should really re-examine whether your hypothesis is scientific at all: the breaking of your kneecap happened in the past, so we can't rewind and run it over again, like a laboratory experiment. Even if we could, it wouldn't prove that I broke your kneecap the previous time. Plus, let's not even get into the fact that the entire universe might have just popped into existence right before I said this sentence, with all the evidence of my alleged kneecap-breaking already pre-formed.

Intelligent Design advocate: That's a load of bull**** sophistry! Get me a doctor and a lawyer, not necessarily in that order, and we'll see how that plays in court!

Scientist (turning to audience): And so we see, ladies and gentlemen, when push comes to shove, advocates of Intelligent Design do not actually believe any of the arguments that they profess to believe. When it comes to matters that hit home, they prefer evidence, the scientific method, testable hypotheses, and naturalistic explanations. In fact, they strongly privilege naturalistic explanations over supernatural hocus-pocus or metaphysical wankery. It is only within the reality-distortion field of their ideological crusade that they give credence to the flimsy, ridiculous arguments which we so commonly see on display. I must confess, it kind of felt good, for once, to be the one spouting free-form bull****; it's so terribly easy and relaxing, compared to marshaling rigorous arguments backed up by empirical evidence. But I fear that if I were to continue, then it would be habit-forming, and bad for my soul. Therefore, I bid you adieu.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

husker that is quite possibly the greatest thing I've ever read.

 

[Kritish]

I really don't have to make fun of these people. They make fun of themselves.

 

[huskerwebhead]

husker that is quite possibly the greatest thing I've ever read.

It gave me quite a chuckle.

 

[Addendum]

Found this a few weeks ago and thought it was hilarious:

Moderator: We're here today to debate the hot new topic, evolution versus Intelligent Des---

(Scientist pulls out baseball bat.)

Moderator: Hey, what are you doing?

(Scientist breaks Intelligent Design advocate's kneecap.)

Intelligent Design advocate: YEAAARRRRGGGHHHH! YOU BROKE MY KNEECAP!

Scientist: Perhaps it only appears that I broke your kneecap. Certainly, all the evidence points to the hypothesis I broke your kneecap. For example, your kneecap is broken; it appears to be a fresh wound; and I am holding a baseball bat, which is spattered with your blood. However, a mere preponderance of evidence doesn't mean anything. Perhaps your kneecap was designed that way. Certainly, there are some features of the current situation that are inexplicable according to the "naturalistic" explanation you have just advanced, such as the exact contours of the excruciating pain that you are experiencing right now.

Intelligent Design advocate: AAAAH! THE PAIN!

Scientist: Frankly, I personally find it completely implausible that the random actions of a scientist such as myself could cause pain of this particular kind. I have no precise explanation for why I find this hypothesis implausible --- it just is. Your knee must have been designed that way!

Intelligent Design advocate: YOU BASTARD! YOU KNOW YOU DID IT!

Scientist: I surely do not. How can we know anything for certain? Frankly, I think we should expose people to all points of view. Furthermore, you should really re-examine whether your hypothesis is scientific at all: the breaking of your kneecap happened in the past, so we can't rewind and run it over again, like a laboratory experiment. Even if we could, it wouldn't prove that I broke your kneecap the previous time. Plus, let's not even get into the fact that the entire universe might have just popped into existence right before I said this sentence, with all the evidence of my alleged kneecap-breaking already pre-formed.

Intelligent Design advocate: That's a load of bull**** sophistry! Get me a doctor and a lawyer, not necessarily in that order, and we'll see how that plays in court!

Scientist (turning to audience): And so we see, ladies and gentlemen, when push comes to shove, advocates of Intelligent Design do not actually believe any of the arguments that they profess to believe. When it comes to matters that hit home, they prefer evidence, the scientific method, testable hypotheses, and naturalistic explanations. In fact, they strongly privilege naturalistic explanations over supernatural hocus-pocus or metaphysical wankery. It is only within the reality-distortion field of their ideological crusade that they give credence to the flimsy, ridiculous arguments which we so commonly see on display. I must confess, it kind of felt good, for once, to be the one spouting free-form bull****; it's so terribly easy and relaxing, compared to marshaling rigorous arguments backed up by empirical evidence. But I fear that if I were to continue, then it would be habit-forming, and bad for my soul. Therefore, I bid you adieu.

That was the Best post in this thread.

Salud

 

[Kritish]

I'm going to invent a time machine and take people like him back to the dawn of man. Where he will see no talking snakes, giant boats or unicorns.

 

[Man-Thing]

Athiest: "If you can prove one single verse in the Bible, I will give you one million dollars."

Christian: "Okay"

The Christian proceedes to grab the athiest nose twisting it 180 degrees. The athiest screaming in pain and bleeding says "WHY DID YOU DO THAT?, YOU MORON!"

Christian: "How will you be paying me?"

Athiest: "You didn't prove anything!"

Christian: "Proverbs 30:33 says 'For as churning the milk produces butter, and as twisting the nose produces blood."

 

[Kritish]

Why God never received a PhD:

1. He had only one major publication.
2. It was in Hebrew.
3. It had no references.
4. It wasn't published in a refereed journal.
5. Some even doubt he wrote it by himself.
6. It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since then?
7. His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
8. The scientific community has had a hard time replicating his results.
9. He never applied to the ethics board for permission to use human subjects.
10. When one experiment went awry he tried to cover it by drowning his subjects.
11. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, he deleted them from the sample.
12. He rarely came to class, just told students to read the book.
13. Some say he had his son teach the class.
14. He expelled his first two students for learning.
15. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of his students failed his tests.
16. His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a mountain top.
17. No record of working well with colleagues.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Athiest: "If you can prove one single verse in the Bible, I will give you one million dollars."

Christian: "Okay"

The Christian proceedes to grab the athiest nose twisting it 180 degrees. The athiest screaming in pain and bleeding says "WHY DID YOU DO THAT?, YOU MORON!"

Christian: "How will you be paying me?"

Athiest: "You didn't prove anything!"

Christian: "Proverbs 30:33 says 'For as churning the milk produces butter, and as twisting the nose produces blood."

And yet the meek still won't inherit the earth.

 

[Man-Thing]

yeah, i know. I mean it really happened.

 

[Kritish]

http://atheistempire.com/entertainment/images/imaginary_friend.gif

 

[Bill]

Since we're throwing out some quotes:

"Our ignorance is God; what we know is science."
-Robert Ingersoll

"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means."
-George Bernard Shaw

And finally:

"There are none more ignorant and useless, than they that seek answers on their knees, with their eyes closed."

-Anon.

 

[Kritish]

http://atheistempire.com/entertainment/humor/calvin-565x191.png

 

[Maxwell Smart]

Lord Siva I love that site.

 

[Kritish]

Statistics
850,000,000 Secularists, Non-Religious, Agnostic and Atheists in the world. That's about 15% or more than 1 out of 10 people, making this the fourth largest religious belief grouping.

The population of non-believers in the USA is about 10% and 10-25% in Europe.

Most studies of the hightly educated and scientists show a higher proportion of atheists and non-believers.

Prison populations appear to have a lower proportion of Atheists and non-believers.

Statistics of Atheists are generaly considered statisticaly low especially in 'self-identification' surveys because many who are technically 'Atheists' shy away from the term, often using 'non-religious', 'agnostic', 'secular' or 'humanist' due to Atheism's negative perception.

 

[Bill]

I had never heard of AtheistEmprie.com, but I found this appropriately fitting little list there:

TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN​

10- You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god.

9- You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt

8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god

7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees!

6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5- You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old.

4- You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving".

3- While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to prove Christianity.

2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a Christian

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[Maxwell Smart]

Statistics of Atheists are generaly considered statisticaly low especially in 'self-identification' surveys because many who are technically 'Atheists' shy away from the term, often using 'non-religious', 'agnostic', 'secular' or 'humanist' due to Atheism's negative perception.

Troof.

My best friend does not believe in God, yet he calls himself Agnostic. I asked him before "why aren't you an atheist?" and from what he said he seemed to assume if you're an Atheist, that means you are a nihilist.

I think Atheism continues to be tied to Nihilism, thusly even if somebody knows they don't believe in God they avoid saying they are an Atheist because to them Atheism doesn't simply mean you don't believe in any deities. Even though that IS what it means.

I think religious people like to attach other, what they view as "negative" ideas to Atheism to make it seem less attractive and acceptable.

 

[Kritish]

I had never heard of AtheistEmprie.com, but I found this appropriately fitting little list there:

TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN​

10- You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god.

9- You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt

8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god

7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees!

6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5- You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old.

4- You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving".

3- While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to prove Christianity.

2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a Christian


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[cass]

Atheism - the religion devoted to the worship of one's own smug sense of superiority.





Thanks Lackey!

 

[huskerwebhead]

Atheism - the religion devoted to the worship of one's own smug sense of superiority.

Pot....kettle....a little black??

 

[Danalys]

Atheism - the religion devoted to the worship of one's own smug sense of superiority.





Thanks Lackey!

he says smugly.

 

[Kritish]

Atheism - the religion devoted to the worship of one's own smug sense of superiority.





Thanks Lackey!

We arn't a religion.