ABC's Once Upon a Time - Part 4

[Specter313]

So why did rumple have to die with pan? I didn't get that.

Here's the best explanation I've found about it:

Some people were confused as to what all that was about. First of all, keep in mind Gold's then seemingly out of place line in "Save Henry." When he caught Pan trying to take Henry's shadow, and opened Pandora's Box, Gold said, "Blood magic works both ways, father." Now, remember, the Dark One's curse works like this: whoever controls the magical dagger controls the Dark One. If you stab the Dark One with his own magical dagger, he dies and you become the new Dark One. Since Pan is magical and immortal, he can't be killed with a regular weapon. When Gold shoves the magical blade through Pan's body first, and then into his own, it as if Pan is the person stabbing Dark One, because the blade is coming from Pan's body, to Gold's. However, since Gold is still wearing the magic suppression cuff, the Dark One's powers cannot flow from Gold into Pan/Papa Stiltskin. The Dark One's curse ends because of this. The curse is blocked from traveling to Pan, so it dies as its last host (Gold) dies. It evaporates in a poof of paradox.

 

[Hush]

I kinda thought something along those lines but yeah I had a hard time figuring it out. My gf asked why and I kinda spun the same sorta BS but yeah they really needed to make that clearer.

 

[Sawyer]

http://tvline.com/2014/01/01/sons-o...ginnifer-goodwin-michael-coleman-leearenberg/

I really hope this doesn't happen. It's bull**** if it does. A guy shouldn't lose his job just because a faction of shippers like to stir **** up and harass actors on the show they claim to like.

 

[Primal Slayer]

This is just beyond stupid, the entire thing. The fans getting pissy, the actor getting pissy, everyone else getting pissy. Though don't discuss which fans are annoying, that's just rule number 2.

 

[Sawyer]

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[Specter313]

Everyone remember Chris Gorham's casting for this? I'm betting now that he's a boyfriend or something that Emma's got in the year since she left Storybrooke.

 

[Sawyer]

That's pretty much what I was thinking after the midseason finale aired. Before, I thought he might be older Henry as a result of something happening with Henry before the break, but once the episode ended with the one year jump and Emma/Henry together in NY, I pretty much assumed he'd be a boyfriend of hers or something.

I just hope they don't turn him into another Greg and Tamara.

 

[Teelie]

I didn't know the shipbase was so large for SwanQueen. And I really didn't know someone from the cast would take notice and respond so openly like that. Especially not being one of the two in the ship.

 

[Sawyer]

Pretty much every actor/writer on the show has a twitter account and are bombarded on an hourly basis with **** like that.

Adam Horowitz could tweet about what he ate for Breakfast and within 60 seconds would probably get half a dozen tweets saying "WHERE ARE EMMA AND REGINA GETTING TOGETHERRRR?! ZOMG SWANQUEEN FOREVA!!!!!"

 

[Teelie]

I'm not that invested in most series or actors to follow their Twitter feed, or Facebook. Or Tumblr account. Or pretty much anything else they might use. Makes sense though that the more enthusiastic would hound them I guess.

 

[Specter313]

That's the biggest problem with the entertainment industry in general these days. Fans think that because they now have access that they didn't have before through social media and such, that they think that creators and actors etc. owe them something and that they have to listen to what the fans want. Guess what? Entertainers don't owe you ****. They are all the ones out there putting stuff on the line that can be virtually **** upon day in and day out, they don't have to bow down to every make and whim because there is no way to ever please 100% of the audience. They need to do what they feel is right to give the story or experience that they want to put out there, and they don't have to answer to anyone but the people who write their checks at the end of the day.

 

[Sawyer]

Yep. They're not our employees.

 

[Hush]

That is ******ed, SwanQueen sounds awful and idiotic anyway. I just wow.

 

[Milos]

SwanQueen sounds awful and idiotic anyway.

I agree!!! Regina loves men!

 

[jaymes_e06]

Oh another day another Milos spam for Regina.

 

[Specter313]

Ok, I had a rather interesting theory pop into my head today while I was thinking about this show at work. Everyone has likely heard by now that many are speculating that the Wicked Witch could be Regina's sister. My theory is that her parents could be Cora and Rumple.

Hear me out now. We know that Rumple and Cora had a thing in the past. We also know that somehow Cora and her husband somehow fell out of royal power since she was scheming to use Regina to get back into power later on. So how could that last one have happened? I'm guessing that Cora and Rumple rekindled their romance at some point after Cora married the prince and had Regina, and became pregnant with the Wicked Witch from the affair. Her green skin made the affair obvious once she was born, and the king banished Cora and the girls, and her husband went with her out of blind loyalty and wanting to be there for the kids. Cora, being the selfish ***** that she is, blamed WW for the whole thing, and got rid of her, and she somehow ended up with the fairies who sensed her ability for magic, and made her one of them, until she became corrupted as the Black Fairy and banished to Oz.

Could work, don't ya think?

 

[PyroChamber]

Where did this whole SwanQueen thing come from anyway, and why do so many people want it to happen?

 

[Sawyer]

Because 40 years ago some Trekkie thought Kirk and Spock would make a cute couple and now slash fans exist.

 

[John Locke]

The long looks. The stolen glances. The general atmosphere of "would they might they?" Although they are probably reading too much into it. You could say the same thing about Belle and Hook.

 

[Teelie]

Because 40 years ago some Trekkie thought Kirk and Spock would make a cute couple and now slash fans exist.

I'm pretty sure it predates that but modern slash most definitely got its mojo from that pairing.

I think SwanQueen would solve a lot of problems, but it would also create a number of them too. Not just in the story but in reality too when "those people" start throwing a fit there's a lesbian couple on television and begin yelling for boycotts or protesting it.

There's also virtually nothing there to say those two are remotely attracted to each other or would be able to cooperate enough to make it work.

 

[DeeLovesMarvel]

Fans like those are the ones I can't stand, the ones who are so adamant and overbearing about a couple that will never happen.

Maybe it's just me but I hate slash ships between straight characters.

If at least one of the characters actually is gay, than ship all you want because I sure do. But I hate when people try to ship two clearly straight characters (or worse family members like those people who ship Sam and Dean Winchester) together when it's obvious the writers have no intention of ever making those characters get together romantically.

I'm all for shipping friendships, like people who just like the interaction between Regina and Emma and don't want them to be couple.

 

[Sawyer]

All things considered, they did do a good job finding a kid who looks like a Disney illustration.

 

[Primal Slayer]

They shouldnt have made him into Rumples father, made him downright evil, redeem him somewhat and added him to the cast.

 

[Sawyer]

Eh, I could've done without another branch being added to the main cast's family tree, but the rest I don't particularly mind.

 

[Maximus One]

Been watching old episodes of Community and man am I ready to see Yvette Brown play Ursula. Not just in voice but actually play her. She's just absolutely perfect for it