ABC's Once Upon a Time - Part 7

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It was ok though things went over way to easy imo. The bottle magically being right there and being from their mother, a curse that is suppose to have kill each other and yet no one is killed or injured. The writers just held back to much.

But I am here for this Queen of Darkness! Cruella looks PERFECT, Mals new costume is 10x better then her original, Ursula.......if that is her official look, they wrong.

Is this the midseason finale or is there another episode next week?

Next week is the midseason finale.
 
The Snow Queen's endin was good yet sad, thanks to Liz Mitchell's really good acting.

The Queens of Darkness look amazing.
 
I still have to hold off complete judgment of Ursulas brief look that we saw since it may not be her final form or costume, but if it is, they probably should have pulled a Hairspray and got a drag queen to be Ursula or just someone on the bigger side.
 
I did like how Doc (I believe it was him) was trying to get Dopey to talk.
 
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The HBICs, Regina/Rumple best look out.
 
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The HBICs, Regina/Rumple best look out.

These three just look great. I know Ursula might not be everyone's cup of tea yet, but I wanna see the full look before passing judgement. Cruella looks like she just stepped out of the Dalmations movie, and Mal looks like she's certainly emulating more of what they did with Jolie.
 
GREAT episode but major continuity issues.


I hope we see Elsa and Anna often.
 
GREAT episode but major continuity issues.

Please elaborate on this, because I have no idea what you're talking about.

BTW, here's my review (cross-posted):
My review:
In the future, creative writing students should be given two series as 'study material': this show and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, because there's a ton that can be learned about how to write just by watching both series, particularly when it comes to balancing humor with drama and when it comes to wrapping up serialized stories.

Depending on how you choose to view this episode's placement in the season, A&E and the other writers either wrapped up the Frozen story arc exactly on or ahead of schedule, but either way, they pulled another page from the "Book of Joss" in doing so.

As with Smash the Mirror Parts 1 and 2 three weeks ago, there was so much going on in this episode that it's hard to know quite where to start in talking about it all, so if some of this comes off disjointed, I apologize.

I would've loved to have been on set during the filming of this episode, because the way the characters behaved as their 'worst selves' was seriously some of the best material I've seen in this show to date, and had to have been a joy to both write and act. I do kind of wish we'd seen a bit more 'in-depth coverage', as it were, of characters beyond just Snow, Charming, Kristoff, and Regina, but when you have as much to get through as this episode did, sacrifices have to be made, and what we got from 3 of those 4 was more than enough to make up for not seeing more craziness from some of the supporting characters. I especially loved the writers finally acknowledging their massive motivational screw-up vis a vis Regina's past, and have to give kudos to both Lana and Ginny for the way they handled the whole thing. I also enjoyed the big swordfight between Snow and Regina.


As if the stuff involving Ingrid's spell wasn't enough, the writers also filled in about 3 seasons' worth of blanks in the course of about 40 minutes (not counting commercials), and, in the process, tossed out a whole bunch of theories/implied assumptions about Emma's backstory pre-Storybrooke, especially with regards to her time in the foster care system. They also made her character a whole lot more complex, emotionally, than she already was.

For starters, it had been previously assumed/implied that Emma 'aged out' of the foster care system before we saw her in Portland, but, after tonight, it's clear that, after Ingrid freaked her out, she just never stopped running. The fact that her relationship with Ingrid - the one good thing in her life before Neal - ended the way it did, BTW, actually makes the fact that she 'took a chance' on letting Neal in all the more remarkable than it had been before given what we knew about her past at the time the writers showed us her relationship with Neal and what happened between them.

While we're on the subject of the flashbacks, did anybody catch the particulars of where Ingrid's house was location-wise (I didn't quite see the caption) and when, exactly, she arrived in Storybrooke (also, what was up with her Nun-esque outfit)?

After "Family Business" aired, there was a little bit of discussion here about when Emma's Season 1 run-in with Ingrid would've happened given that she only wore her blue jacket in a handful of episodes, and we finally had that question answered tonight. With the first season's events happening relatively in real time, Emma had to have visited Any Given Sundae between the end of "The Price of Gold" and the beginning of "That Still Small Voice" (since TPoG is the only episode that aired in November 2011 in which she wore her blue jacket).

It was a pretty fair bet that this storyline was going to end with Ingrid's death, but I was kind of surprised that they didn't just go the predictable route of having Emma and Elsa take her down using magic, regardless of how sympathetic they'd made her character. I did like the symmetry and symbolism inherent in Ingrid sacrificing herself to stop her own spell after realizing that she'd made some seriously terrible mistakes, and all four of the actresses involved in that scene really sold the raw emotion of the moment, so kudos to them.

As I close out my review, I have to ask three questions (all of which stem from the fact that I missed last week's episode):
* Why was Anna immune to the Shattered Sight spell?
* What was up with Henry's attitude?
* Why was Rumple making preparations to leave town?
 
The only thing I thought was weird was young Emma referencing Harry Potter as if he was a widely known pop culture figure at that point. I thought they said a few episodes ago that she was like 13 or 14 at that point. So, what? 1996-97? Not a single movie of the series existed yet and the book would have just come out in 97.
 
The only thing I thought was weird was young Emma referencing Harry Potter as if he was a widely known pop culture figure at that point. I thought they said a few episodes ago that she was like 13 or 14 at that point. So, what? 1996-97? Not a single movie of the series existed yet and the book would have just come out in 97.

It was 1998 when she had her run in with Lilith and I believe I remember a title card this week saying 1999. Still no movies but the second book could be out depending on the month at least. Though it did feel weird to me too.
 
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The only thing I thought was weird was young Emma referencing Harry Potter as if he was a widely known pop culture figure at that point. I thought they said a few episodes ago that she was like 13 or 14 at that point. So, what? 1996-97? Not a single movie of the series existed yet and the book would have just come out in 97.

Emma ran away from her group home in Boston and ended up in Richfield, MN in the fall of 1998, and was placed in Ingrid's care after the turn of the next calendar year (1999). The first book was published in the US in September of 1998, so it would've been fairly new at the time; it's still very plausible for her to have read it and therefore been aware of the characters, though.
 
As I close out my review, I have to ask three questions (all of which stem from the fact that I missed last week's episode):
* Why was Anna immune to the Shattered Sight spell?
* What was up with Henry's attitude?
* Why was Rumple making preparations to leave town?

1. Anna wasn't effected because she was already put under the Shatterd Sight Spell already. They did touch on this last weeks Episode.

2. Henry I assume was just under the Curse

3. We really don't know hy Rumple is leaving town seems like he wants to take over the world or something IDK.
 
They could have left the door there to come & go between worlds & then the Storybrooke townspeople could have came & went to the Enchanted forrest as they pleased.
 
The only thing I thought was weird was young Emma referencing Harry Potter as if he was a widely known pop culture figure at that point. I thought they said a few episodes ago that she was like 13 or 14 at that point. So, what? 1996-97? Not a single movie of the series existed yet and the book would have just come out in 97.

I know in 2000 or 2001 i had a teacher who would talk about it non stop and no one in my class knew what she was talking about (we were in high school) its quite possible the books were popular to a few at the time especially a younger age group. But the rest of us were pretty oblivious until the films began. Doesn't really make the writers incorrect about this one.
 
This Cruella is much hotter than the Glenn Close version.:hrt:

Who will be playing Maleficent this go around same actress as before
Was Cruella ever suppose to be hot? And yeah, that's the same actress from the first season.
 
Emma ran away from her group home in Boston and ended up in Richfield, MN in the fall of 1998, and was placed in Ingrid's care after the turn of the next calendar year (1999). The first book was published in the US in September of 1998, so it would've been fairly new at the time; it's still very plausible for her to have read it and therefore been aware of the characters, though.

And the book showed up at school book fairs in 1998. That's how I and I assume a lot of other young US kids discovered the book. IDK if Emma was ever in public school, but she likely came near a book store at some point in 1998.

So what is the point of Cruella being in this? She has no magic and she's basically the evil Disney villain version of Miranda Priestley. Not exactly in the same league as Ursula and Maleficent. What's she gonna do...set out to skin all of the dogs in storybrooke?
 
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Making Cruella magical robs her of the greatest thing about villainy.

Her humanity or lack there of.

Everyone views her as one of the Disney greats because she's NOT some magical witch, etc. But rather a woman who simply is truly out of touch with her most human emotions so much that she sees puppies and goes ''SKIN EM. MURDER EM! MAKE A COAT."
 
But without magic I'm not sure she would work as a villain in OUAT...unless she is just the schemer. The evil mastermind that directs Mal and Ursula. If these three are a triumvirate of sorts and Cruella is the brains then a magicless Cruella could work. But if she is just doing her own thing with no magic and tries to engage Swan or Regina or any othef magic person she will get her ass handed to her. Being evil without magic will only get you so far on OUAT.
 
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