ABC's Once Upon a Time - Part 7

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Yet those were not hyped for three seasons. And stop assuming people want/expect exact retellings of every fairytale because most of us don't but we do want them to be good. Beauty and the Beast is my favorite Disney film and I loved Once's take on it. I actually expected Rumple to be or at least be working with Ursula as a mermaid's voice is something I could have seen him adding to his collection of things.
 
TLM story was wasted which is sad given that they hyped it up for three seasons, hell are we even going to see Ariel come face to face with the real Ursula? Of all the stories done I was most disappointed in that one and I'm not even TLM's biggest fan.

that's what I'm pondering. They may be able to turn this around for me though... I mean.. Ursula has got to have some sort of Ariel connection right?

I think she may end up being a relative.. they mentioned casting a young african american as a princess who has a great singing voice... that seems "TLM-ish" to me... Also lets note that Eric's Kingdom worships Ursula as a goddess of the sea.... we also know that Disney originally intended to have Ursula be Triton's Sister... there father (and if we are going by greek mythology with Triton, would be Poseidon) gave Triton the Trident, and Ursula the Shell necklace. It's possible they may still be going that route... considering Triton basically is the ruler of the seas, and Ursula is being worshiped as a god...

This could mean they're siblings, or possibly even wife and husband?

another possible idea to me, is if they're siblings.. why is one half fish and one half squid? well... in greek mythology that matters very little, but for story telling purposes, what if Ursula (who's a very faustian character (the whole selling your soul for something you want and making a deal with the devil)) was once a mermaid? (it'd explain her easily mermaid inspired green dress btw), and what if She, as a mermaid.. "fell from grace" and was cursed into that "octopus form" this would also continue to carry the faustian theme and basically be an anology for christian mythology on Satan falling from grace and turning from Angel to Demon ?

I seriously doubt Once has room to go this deep, but I think it'd make for a very compelling twist, and interesting story (also a nice segway into the Greek Pantheon and hercules as well... )
 
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She got the same treatment as Cinderella and Repunzel and so many others. I don't expect this show to retell ever popular Disney fairytale as a major plot point. It's never been about doing that.

People were pretty pissed about Repunzel as well.. because that was a one-off and a complete waste... considering there was absolutely nothing like any story of the character, disney or real story.. it was just long hair, and a tower.. and that was it. I'm fine if they don't go the disney route, but at least bring some details from the book...

as for Cinderella.. unlike TLM and Repunzel, we've seen her in live action in different stories for decades... the story has been retold countless times, from realistic approaches to musicals. Her whole story, aside from actually seeing her step mother and siblings.. was played out just as we all know it.. the only twist was the baby, and rumple being her "fairy god mother". Otherwise.. it was the same story we all know
 
Regina has successfully transitioned from a villain to a hero, but will these ladies cause her to question her choices?

LP:
I love the whole heroes versus villains idea — I think it’s phenomenal. What we’ll see with Regina is she’s once again going to be in the position of having to choose sides. Is she going to stay a hero? Is she going to continue down that path? Or is she going to revert to her old ways and join the dark side?
 
Regina has successfully transitioned from a villain to a hero, but will these ladies cause her to question her choices?

LP:
I love the whole heroes versus villains idea — I think it’s phenomenal. What we’ll see with Regina is she’s once again going to be in the position of having to choose sides. Is she going to stay a hero? Is she going to continue down that path? Or is she going to revert to her old ways and join the dark side?

damn.. it sounds like it's going to be less about "unholy trinity" vs Regina, and more "Mean Girls" and the Plastic's wanting Regina George back into the fold ....
 
This bit from EW...
But romantic obstacles are far from the only ones Regina will face in the winter finale. Her former friend-turned-foe Maleficent (Kristin Bauer van Straten) is set to return, alongside two other villains: Cruella de Vil (Victoria Smurfit) and Ursula (Merrin Dungey). “They’re not very fond of her, nor she of them,” Parrilla says. “She has less of a history with Cruella and Ursula, and more of a history with Maleficent. There’s an episode where Regina and Maleficent, we go back into fairy tale land and we see how they met and how they became friends. It’s a beautiful episode.

“Ultimately, Regina doesn’t really want to deal with three new villains,” Parrilla continues. “Every villain that’s come to this town has caused so many problems. So this isn’t something she’s looking forward to. You’ll see how she ends up dealing with them throughout the back end of the season.”
Doesn't sound much like that's the case. Makes me think that, if she'll go dark side again, it'll be to get rid of them.
 
This bit from EW...

Doesn't sound much like that's the case. Makes me think that, if she'll go dark side again, it'll be to get rid of them.

yeah, hopefully.

ps... omg.. didn't realise someone could have the last name "Smurfit" haha i love it.
 
I kind of wonder what they will do next season since after 4b they have pretty much used every major Disney villain out there.
 
I expect Jafar to arrive in Storybrook very soon, maybe even Aladdin as well.
 
Regarding the TLM conversation, I agree with those who said it was a misfire. I liked Ariel herself but not what they did with the story. That and Rapunzel are the two adaptations that don't work for me. Well, I'm sure there are more, but those two always come to mind.
 
I kind of wonder what they will do next season since after 4b they have pretty much used every major Disney villain out there.

There's still a couple of pretty good Disney villains they could use - bring back Jafar, Doctor Facilier, Lady Tremaine + the evil stepsisters, Madam Mim, Ymza or Chernabog. Not to mention the Snow Queen and Wicked Witch of the West also showed that they could certainly do other villains that aren't necessarily straight from Disney movies.

Wish they hadn't of done Rapunzel yet or I'd have included Mother Gothel.
 
I think there's still a lot of places to go, not even strictly Disney. They introduced Lancelot back in S2, but that's pretty much all they've done, in terms of the Arthurian mythology. They can still get into the Greek myths.
 
There's still a couple of pretty good Disney villains they could use - bring back Jafar, Doctor Facilier, Lady Tremaine + the evil stepsisters, Madam Mim, Ymza or Chernabog. Not to mention the Snow Queen and Wicked Witch of the West also showed that they could certainly do other villains that aren't necessarily straight from Disney movies.

Wish they hadn't of done Rapunzel yet or I'd have included Mother Gothel.

Yeah, and they've certainly hinted at/shown other worlds that could offer a plethora of other villains. They had Lancelot, which means someone like Morgan Le Fey could come in. There's Frankenstein's world, so they could bring in someone like Dracula, or the Wolfman, or the Mummy. I also wonder if they could use someone like Jadis or other villains from the Narnia books. There's also other villains from Oz like the Nome King. And a chance they could always dip into mythology as well, since Disney did a Hercules movie.
 
Oh, the mythology mentions made me remember an idea I had after the last ep.

I'd seen a lot of people saying that they would really miss the Snow Queen after her death, and also when characters like Pan and the Wicked Witch died too. And it got me to thinking, they've got a perfect way available in the Disney library if they ever want to bring them back in some manner: Hades. God of the dead and certainly one of the more memorable Disney villains. So, who knows.
 
Oh, the mythology mentions made me remember an idea I had after the last ep.

I'd seen a lot of people saying that they would really miss the Snow Queen after her death, and also when characters like Pan and the Wicked Witch died too. And it got me to thinking, they've got a perfect way available in the Disney library if they ever want to bring them back in some manner: Hades. God of the dead and certainly one of the more memorable Disney villains. So, who knows.

thats and idea too. as i said above on this page, Ursula and Triton easily can tie in Greek Mythology
 
Looking back on this week's episode, did anyone else think the shattered sight curse seemed more comical than anything? I mean the way it's described makes it feel like something to take serious, but to me the outcome was just funny.
 
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I can only imagine it's something that would've intensified over time.
 
Looking back on this week's episode, did anyone else think the shattered sight curse seemed more comical than anything? I mean the it's described makes it feel like some to take serious, but to me the outcome was just funny.

When Hook bumped into Granny with her crossbow, that was great. "Move it!"
 
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I expect Jafar to arrive in Storybrook very soon, maybe even Aladdin as well.

I wouldn't be surprised. I feel they can touch on Jafar more and now he even has more powers than he does before now that's he's a genie.

Um there's probably no way they can do Scar but like people say there's still a lot of villains they could use. Also who knows if the story with Gold gets wrapped this season he could accomplish is goal and get out in the real world and the guys have to go after him to stop him.
 
I expect Jafar to arrive in Storybrook very soon, maybe even Aladdin as well.

How would they tie in Sydney Glass/The Genie with Jafar?

Also, any chance we'll see more of Ruby/Red? Also will she ever find love?
 
Once Upon A Time': Lana Parrilla On The Villains Coming In Mid-Season Finale

Snow Queen Ingrid may be gone and the Curse of Shattered Sight broken, but our "Once Upon a Time" favorites face a new threat: The Queens of Darkness.
Ursula and Cruella De Vil are set to make their debut in Sunday's mid-season finale on ABC, and Maleficent will also return.
"It's 'Heroes vs. Villains' and the villains are definitely starting to outnumber the heroes at this stage," Lana Parrilla, who plays reformed villain Regina/The Evil Queen told Access Hollywood, when we asked about the episode.

"They're a lot of fun, these three women – one, who we've seen before, and Ursula and Cruella. What you're basically going to see is who they are and what do they want and how do our worlds sort of collide," she continued of the trios' introduction. "Regina has a history with these three women, so it'll be fun to see how they cross paths and what unfolds in that story, learning about how they met and how they sort of reunite in present time, so you'll see a lot of that in this second half of the season."
Kristin Bauer van Straten returns as Maleficent, while it is "Dracula" alum Victoria Smurfit as Cruella De Vil and Merrin Dungey as Ursula. Previously, Lana donned the tentacles of "The Little Mermaid" villain on "Once Upon a Time," pretending to be the sea sorceress in an exchange with Ariel (JoAnna Garcia Swisher).

"Before we knew that the real Ursula was going to join our show… because every interview I've ever had, people have asked, 'Who's your favorite villain?' and I said, 'Ursula, and God, I'd love to play her,' and I think that I was smart enough to plant that seed a long time ago and I think the boys – Eddy [Kitsis] and Adam [Horowitz, the 'OUAT' executive producers] – were kind enough to throw me that bone and they gave me the opportunity to play her," Lana said. "I felt so honored to play her because she's such an incredible villain – Disney villain – but, you know, it's funny, when I heard that Ursula was coming, I wasn't sure if they were gonna cast me as her again (laughs). I was like, 'Well that's gonna be difficult to do, you know, two parts at the same time."
Lana is happy to have the real Ursula in town, played by "Alias" alum Merrin.
"She's a great actress and a ton of fun," Lana said.
Aside from the evil ladies on the way, there will be more trouble for Regina and her true love, Robin Hood (Sean Maguire), whose wife is alive and in Storybrooke.

"He will have to make a very difficult decision between Regina and Marian and so you will see a bit of that this coming Sunday," Lana said.
Additionally, Sunday's episode – and when the show returns in 2015 – will continue to provide information related to the author of the book Regina is hoping to find to get her happy ending.
"There's going to be a lot of clues that sort of are going to help lead to finding this author. It's a quest that Regina's been on since Episode 2, and it's one that will continue throughout the entire season," Lana said.
 
I expect Jafar to arrive in Storybrook very soon, maybe even Aladdin as well.

I wouldn't be surprised. I feel they can touch on Jafar more and now he even has more powers than he does before now that's he's a genie.

We've already seen OUaT's Aladdin.... he was just named Cyrus instead, so bringing in in the real Aladdin character at this point would just be redundant. Bringing in Jasmine also doesn't work because of the way they handled the Agrabah mythology on Once: Wonderland.

There's definitely more story they could tell with Jafar, though.
 
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They can still do Aladdin/Jasmin. Just gotta get creative. Maybe have two kingdoms there like we have like 5 kingdoms in the Enchanted forest.
 
They would have to make so many alterations to both characters that it's not worth using them.
 
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