Abuse of Power Thread (Cops, Governments, Etc.)

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North Miami Cops Use Mugshots of Black Criminals For Target Practice

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http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...288739131.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_MIBrand

So stock photos wouldn't cut it? Somehow you become a better sniper if you use real bad guys for target practice?

This was pretty cool response from clergy members.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...s-black-youth-target-practice-use-us-instead/
 
When the suspect is white male what does a cop do?

They don't point guns at every white person.
They don't do it for every black person either
They look for other details, weight/height/clothing.
They did that with this guy too. He was wearing a similar jacket. Hard to tell other factors while sitting down and driving.

When it's a black suspect, just pull your guns on the first black guy you see.
Right, because that's what happens in every case.:whatever:
Especially if it at an Ivy League school where there could never be black students. :doh:
Or maybe, you know they pulled over the person described in the report.

Fun story, A friend of mine(white guy) had his legal car plates run, was pulled over and his name matched someone wanted for a violent gun crime. Two officers swarmed his car guns drawn. He about crapped his pants but followed their orders and ended up just fine. They had the wrong guy, but they have to check in situations like that, and they're going to be careful about it.
 
The funny thing is Howlett is trying to justify one instance of profiling when MessiahDecoy was talking about the kid at the college haha.
 
The funny thing is Howlett is trying to justify one instance of profiling when MessiahDecoy was talking about the kid at the college haha.
That's what you do with every one of these posts. For every one "abuse" you post that makes the news, there are thousands of non abuse incidents.

It would be nice if you started to know what you're talking about. Profiling is not the same as looking for a suspect that someone described to officers. Good effort though.
 
Beating up a black man simply because he wrecked his car trying to avoid a high speed chase is not profiling, you're correct on that. That's just a plain old abuse of power. Pointing a gun at a black college student who "fits the description" is textbook profiling however. Nice try though :o
 
Beating up a black man simply because he wrecked his car trying to avoid a high speed chase is not profiling, you're correct on that. That's just a plain old abuse of power. Pointing a gun at a black college student who "fits the description" is textbook profiling however. Nice try though :o
It's not profiling when they're looking for someone. You have a problem with it complain to the people who called the police and made the complaint, otherwise, you're ridiculous and just speculating nonsense.
 
Beating up a black man simply because he wrecked his car trying to avoid a high speed chase is not profiling, you're correct on that. That's just a plain old abuse of power. Pointing a gun at a black college student who "fits the description" is textbook profiling however. Nice try though :o
White kids never get guns pointed at them by cops? You're so hilarious I don't even need to finish this sentenc

How much you wanna bet I look and find posts from you how cops "treated you bad"
 
White kids never get guns pointed at them by cops? You're so hilarious I don't even need to finish this sentenc

How much you wanna bet I look and find posts from you how cops "treated you bad"

Well there are people who blindly defend the police because they have good experiences with cops (family members or friends who are cops).

What's wrong with someone scrutinizing the police because their experiences with the police have been bad.
 
That's what you do with every one of these posts. For every one "abuse" you post that makes the news, there are thousands of non abuse incidents.

...and then there are the thousands of abuse (no quotes needed) incidents that don't make the news.
 
It's not profiling when they're looking for someone. You have a problem with it complain to the people who called the police and made the complaint, otherwise, you're ridiculous and just speculating nonsense.

Howlett you have obviously lost your mind. Stopping someone at gunpoint because they "fit the description" is profiling. That's how profiling works. Funny thing is you don't hear about rich white people complaining about how the cops are always pulling them over for driving nice cars and such. I wonder why that is?

White kids never get guns pointed at them by cops? You're so hilarious I don't even need to finish this sentenc

How much you wanna bet I look and find posts from you how cops "treated you bad"

Not sure why you quoted me here when it's obviously in response to another poster but I'll play along. I've had multiple encounters with the police and out of 2 of those I got my ass beat for no reason other than mouthing off to them because I was drunk. Last time I checked I was well withing my rights to say whatever I damn well please without fear of being beat up by the cops. Now on the flip side of that I have had several instances were the cops were super cool with me.

...and then there are the thousands of abuse (no quotes needed) incidents that don't make the news.

Exactly. It's freaking hilarious how Howlett tries to act like these instances I report on are the only times any cop has abused their power. I'm of the opinion that police abuse of power and corruption is fairly low, all things considered, but as I have said before these stories are just the tip of the iceberg. Much like roaches, for everyone that you see there are a lot more you don't
 
it is not entirely on topic but it feels like this video should be shared here too.

 
Well there are people who blindly defend the police because they have good experiences with cops (family members or friends who are cops).
And there are people who blindly scrutinize the police and unconditionally defend their son/daughter/family member who shot at police or were caught breaking the law.

What's wrong with someone scrutinizing the police because their experiences with the police have been bad.
There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not the norm.
 
Cop who stole nude pics off arrested women’s phones gets no jail time

You can be guaranteed had he not been a cop he would have gotten a far harsher sentence with a few years of jail time. Instead it's a slap on the wrist and off he goes.

A now-former California Highway Patrol (CHP) officer who was charged with criminal felony charges after seizing and distributing racy photos copied from arrestees’ phones has pleaded no contest and will serve no jail time.

Sean Harrington’s plea deal, which was finalized on Tuesday, means that he receives a 180-day suspended sentence, three years of felony probation, and according to local media accounts, “must also speak at a community violence solutions class to tell everyone what he did.” Harrington resigned from the CHP last year after the charges were filed.

The case emerged last year from a woman, referred to in court documents as “Jane Doe #1,” who came forward to local authorities in early October 2014 after being briefly arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence (DUI) of alcohol in late August 2014 in San Ramon, California, about 35 miles east of San Francisco.

"I apologize to my family, my wife, my friends. I apologize to officers everywhere, especially to the two women involved," Harrington said, reading from a statement outside court in Martinez, according to the Bay Area News Group. "I'm trying to put this behind me and move forward from this. I hope now everyone else can, too."
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That's BS. That's a freaking sex crime and he should be registered as a sex offender
 
How Wearing the Wrong Jewelry Can Get You Locked Up

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Andre Perry is 32 years old. He's a commercial photographer, lives in Brooklyn, and loves fashion. He's also black. A month ago, Perry was stopped at a subway station by an undercover officer with the New York City Police Department. He was interrogated about his two-finger ring, arrested, and charged with possession of a deadly weapon—"metal knuckles."

"I'm not saying those are your intentions, but you could hurt somebody with this," the arresting officer says in a video recorded by Perry on his cell phone. Still, Perry was given the additional charge of "intent to injure." The crime carries penalties from a community service to a year in jail on Rikers Island.

"I was transferring trains at the Union Square. Walking from one platform to the other, I stopped to take a photo to post to Instagram," says Perry. "Out of nowhere, two guys approached me and started asking what I had on, pointing to my hand. I told them it was a ring."

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That's when he says the plainclothes cops showed him their badges and he immediately started recording the interaction using his cell phone. Over the course of the two-and-a-half-minute video, Officer Jonathan Correa informs Perry that he's wearing a weapon, frisks him and escorts him to a precinct. The video ends just after the officer places Perry in handcuffs.

Laws on metal knuckles vary, of course, by state but most have some statute on the books that prohibits their possession. Some, like South Carolina, make possession illegal only if "used with the intent to commit a crime," while states like California, Michigan, Illinois, and Vermont prohibit the possession, sale, and use of brass knuckles. California is the only state that makes an attempt to define brass knuckles in its statute. California Penal Code section 21810 defines metal knuckles as:

"...any device or instrument made wholly or partially of metal which is worn for purposes of offense or defense in or on the hand and which either protects the wearer's hand while striking a blow or increases the force of impact from the blow or injury to the individual receiving the blow. The metal contained in the device may help support the hand or fist, provide a shield to protect it, or consist of projections or studs which would contact the individual receiving a blow."

New York state has no such definition. Without it, enforcing the law is up to each officer's interpretation.

Over the last 10 years, 80's hip-hop aesthetics have reemerged in mainstream fashion, including multi-finger rings. Designers for Lanvin, Givenchy, and Eddie Borgo—to name a few—have all included multi-finger rings in their collections and celebrities from Rihanna and Solange to Lana del Rey and Lauren Conrad have worn them.

Hip-hop icons like LL Cool J and Big Daddy Kane pioneered this trend with their elaborate four-finger ring designs in the 1980's. Perhaps no wearer is more memorable, though, than the character of "Radio Raheem" from Spike Lee's 1989 Do the Right Thing. Radio, played by Bill Nunn, owned the central scene from the film using his rings to illustrate the cosmic battle between love and hate. Coincidentally, the character is choked to death by NYPD officer later in the film.

"It's not uncommon to see people walking around the city with two-finger rings," says Joshua Kissi, men's style expert and co-founder of New York City-based creative agency Street Etiquette. "The trend has come and gone but it's really back strong, especially for people who want to reference the 80s."

Kissi says that, despite the general popularity of the rings, he's not surprised to see the NYPD interpreting them differently when on black bodies.

"If there was a girl walking through SoHo with the same ring on, she wouldn't have even be stopped—let alone questioned and arrested," says Kissi. "It's clear that some people can wear items like Air Jordans and certain jewelry and be considered fashionable and creative, but when people of color do it, it 's dangerous."

During the encounter last month, Andre Perry can be heard telling Officer Jonathan Correa, "I feel so degraded right now."

Correa, who currently has a lawsuit pending against him from a previous arrest in 2013 involving a weapons possession case, replies, "You shouldn't. You gotta understand I'm doing my job."

Ronald Kuby, a prominent New York City civil rights attorney, agrees that Perry's arrest was reasonable.

"The law does not change in response to fashion trends," says Kuby, "and with almost all possessory offenses, one has to simply know that they're in possession of an item, not that it's illegal. Looking at what Andre possessed, it strikes me as the exact kind of thing the court would want to stop you from having."

Still, Perry feels that the officer took his race into account when making the judgement call between whether there was a ring or a deadly weapon on his fingers.

"I feel like I was profiled. Some people have no idea how easy it is for a black man to get a criminal record," he says. "Now I have to go through the legal system. I'm not some thug and had to spend the night in jail with real criminals and, while I was there, the officers were joking about all of it. The one who took my mugshot joked that I could post it to Instagram."

The NYPD has long been plagued by charges of harassment, misconduct and brutality with "broken windows" policing—exemplified in its controversial Stop and Frisk program—at the center. A 2013 federal class-action lawsuit put the city of New York on trial for unconstitutional and race-based stops. The city ultimately lost that case and, during the trial, two officers revealed that they had quotas for making stops, citations and arrests, and that they were specifically instructed by superiors to stop young men of color like Perry. [Representatives from the NYPD did not respond to requests for comment on this story.]

There were more than 6,000 arrests for criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree made in New York City last year, according to the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services. Blacks and Latinos account for more than three-fourths of those arrested. And, coincidentally, questionable arrests like Perry's are used in defense of Stop and Frisk. The program is touted for its effectiveness in taking concealed weapons off the streets. The number of criminal weapons possession arrests—which includes everything from firearms and switchblades to stun guns, slingshots and metal knuckles—is central to making that case, even if it includes fashion crimes.

As for what's next? Kuby says that state officials will ultimately have to convince retailers to stop selling items like Perry's ring, pointing to a spate of similar arrests made in recent years for popular knives. An analysis done by the Village Voice last year found that white suspects who were found by police to be carrying knives were significantly more likely to be let go than blacks.

"A large number of people, many who work with knives, were being arrested for possession of gravity knives. The knives were being sold by large chain stores, even sporting goods stores," Kuby says. "Finally, the DA's office persuaded merchants to stop selling them because they're illegal to possess. I guess the DAs haven't quite caught up to the fashion industry."

As for what's next? Kuby says that state officials will ultimately have to convince retailers to stop selling items like Perry's ring, pointing to a spate of similar arrests made in recent years for popular knives. An analysis done by the Village Voice last year found that white suspects who were found by police to be carrying knives were significantly more likely to be let go than blacks.

"A large number of people, many who work with knives, were being arrested for possession of gravity knives. The knives were being sold by large chain stores, even sporting goods stores," Kuby says. "Finally, the DA's office persuaded merchants to stop selling them because they're illegal to possess. I guess the DAs haven't quite caught up to the fashion industry."

Until then, two-finger rings are still for sale at retailers including Barneys, Bloomingdale's, and Bergdorf Goodman.

After reviewing Perry's ring, the Manhattan District Attorney's office decided to drop the charges against him " in the interest of justice." Perry says that's he's consulting with attorneys and planning on filing a lawsuit against the NYPD in the coming weeks for unlawful arrest.

If Perry wins his case or it's settled, he will join the ranks of more than 10,000 New Yorkers who, over the past five years, have successfully sued the city to the tune of nearly half a million dollars. For the 2015 fiscal year, the city budget has set aside $674 million to pay judgements and settlements for claims like Perry's.

"This is something that should have never happened to me," Perry says.

Cue the usual right wing trolls claiming this had nothing to do with race :o
 
Cop who stole nude pics off arrested women’s phones gets no jail time

You can be guaranteed had he not been a cop he would have gotten a far harsher sentence with a few years of jail time. Instead it's a slap on the wrist and off he goes.


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That's silly. I've seen rapists get little or no jail time. It's not because he's a cop. It's because he's a man, and his victims were women who were being arrested.
 
Seattle Cops Sorry About Arresting 70-Year-Old Black Vet for No Reason

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This week, the Seattle Police Department issued an apology to a 70-year-old black veteran who was arrested last summer when a female officer apparently falsely accused him of threatening her with a golf club.

William Wingate, a 69-year-old Seattle man who regularly used his golf club as a cane, was standing on a street corner last summer when Officer Cynthia Whitlatch pulled up next to him.

In a exchange captured on her police cruiser's dash cam, Whitlatch accused Wingate of threatening her with his club, repeatedly warning him, "You're being audio and videotaped."

But as the police department conceded, there's no evidence at all—much less a recording—showing that Wingate threatened Whitlatch in any way. Via a Seattle Police Department press release:

The City Attorney's Office and SPD took a second look at this case and recommended that it be dismissed.

Deputy Chief Best personally met with the man, returned his golf club, and offered an apology for his arrest.

Video of the man's arrest was just released to a media outlet as a result of a public disclosure request. It is being published on the SPD Blotter in the interest of fostering better police transparency.


Wingate had actually ended up pleading guilty to the misdemeanor charge of unlawful use of a weapon in exchange for two years of probation, which were dismissed early.

Not dismissed, however, was Whitlatch, the arresting officer.

The officer who made the arrest received counseling from her supervisor, a course of action that the department believes to be an appropriate resolution.

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/ar...lderly-man-for-walking-in-seattle-while-black

That is freaking ridiculous! It was clear as day on the recording that man did nothing wrong and the cop still lied about it even though she obviously knew she was being recorded. And then to make things even worse the man pleaded out like so many people do because they can't afford an attorney. This is a perfect example of how some police abuse their power
 
Police Officer Handcuffed Meddling Defense Attorney to a Wall

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A San Francisco public defender says she was placed under arrest and handcuffed to a wall for around an hour because she tried to stop police officers from questioning her client without a lawyer present.

Deputy Public Defender Jami Tillotson was inside a San Francisco courthouse when she reportedly heard police were in the hallway outside, interviewing a man she was representing on a misdemeanor theft charge.

There, she found plainclothes officer Brian Stansbury taking pictures of her client and tried to stop him, asserting the man's right to have his attorney present during any questioning.

Via CBS:

The video shows Deputy Public Defender Jami Tillotson refusing to step aside as a man identified as San Francisco Police Inspector Brian Stansbury tries to take a cellphone picture of him in a hallway at the Hall of Justice on Tuesday.

"I just want to take some pictures, ok? Then he will be free to go," says Stansbury on the video. Tillotson refuses and Stansbury then tells her she can either step aside or be arrested for resisting arrest, according to the subtitles on the YouTube video.

Tillotson, an 18-year veteran of the public defender's office, is calm throughout the video and does not resist officers. She continues to assert she is representing her client as she is led away.


Public Defender Jeff Adachi told reporters Tillotson was eventually handcuffed to a wall for close to an hour while Stansbury photographed and questioned her client.

She was charged with resisting arrest, a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...or-intervening-between-police-and-her-client/

This is even more insane. The attorney did nothing wrong, these cops can't just do anything they damn well please. We all have rights as Americans and this is a blatant attempt to disregard them
 
There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not the norm.

ohh I think it's the norm alright. Most people I know in general just do not like cops. And are forced to respect them just because they are people with badges on their arms which automatically puts them above the rest in a local setting.
 
ohh I think it's the norm alright. Most people I know in general just do not like cops. And are forced to respect them just because they are people with badges on their arms which automatically puts them above the rest in a local setting.

Are you sure that's not just because they get speeding tickets?

The city that I live in is too small for a police department, but it has an RCMP detachment and the people here love the Mounties. One of them was recently killed in a casino shooting and the trees in the town were all adorned with white ribbons in the Mountie's honour. People had signs in their windows that said "Thank You RCMP" and flowers lined the sidewalks around the detachment. He was a good man and a good cop.

At the end of the day, the police are the ones you call when you're in trouble. They put their life on the line to protect you. That deserves some respect.
 
At the end of the day, the police are the ones you call when you're in trouble. They put their life on the line to protect you. That deserves some respect.

Too much of a blanket statement.
 
Jeez Feenix/Pinchy, wassamatterwidu? You obviously put on a mask and hoodie and put those six weeks of karate to good use.
 
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