Acting:Who needs to up their game ?

[Fantastic-Boy]

This need be the union between acting,direction and script...

 

[Memphis Slim]

Alba, McMahon, and Gruffud. Gruffud overacted occasionally and didn't seem much like a genius. McMahon was nowhere near menacing enough.

I agree totally!! They were not good!

Especially Guffud' s Reed. I heard that he's supposed to be more of a leader this time.

 

[Antrax255]

Alba though I love her need to stop acting like she is in a high school .
McMahon needs to act like a evil genius bent on ruling the world.
Ioan needs to act like hes a GENIUS!

 

[Sun_Down]

All of 'em. The only one who really sold me on his character the first time was Evans.

 

[DACrowe]

Jessica Alba....can't act. Period.

So if she can give a convincing performance for once (besides Sin City and even that was inconvincing to a degree), I'll be dumb-struck. Machmon and Grufford just need to be written better and in-character. Evans and Chicklis are good but had very shallow cliches to play. Give them some depth (take notes from Sam Raimi and Chris Nolan on that) and they'll be fine.

Oh well.

 

[DACrowe]

Jessica Alba....can't act. Period.

So if she can give a convincing performance for once (besides Sin City and even that was inconvincing to a degree), I'll be dumb-struck. Machmon and Grufford just need to be written better and in-character. Evans and Chicklis are good but had very shallow cliches to play. Give them some depth (take notes from Sam Raimi and Chris Nolan on that) and they'll be fine.

Oh well.

 

[Retroman]

Its a sequel; theres a bigger budget, greater expectations, introduction of the SS.Theres a lot riding on this movie. So i think everyone needs to up their game even the actors who's performances were good in the first flick.It all depends on the script and direction of course.

 

[Retroman]

Kerry Washington- Shes a really good actress but I was expecting more from her. Maybe its cause she wasn't given much to do with the script but I hope she does better this time

More than half of Washington's scenes were cut from the movie including the scene with Ben at the Kirby gallery.So it's not all her fault.

 

[Carp Man]

I would say Alba deffently. And I think she will. She seems to have a bigger part, and will use her powers in more ways then we saw in the 1st movie. Ioan's charactor needs to step up, and be the leader, like we saw flashes of at the end of the first movie in the final sequence. Doom needs to step up. Better and more imagitive dialog, and a more evil, sinister looking Doom. Full Doom as Story said. The 2 brightest spots we're Chilkis and Evans. They carried the movie with their banter, and back and forth with each other. We need to see that again. And as Retro said, it depends on the script, and Tim's direction. The actors did well with what they had in the 1st film. Good actors, can make bad dialog look good. I'm very optomistic that we will see the improvements that needed to be made. All we have heard, and seen has been nothing but positive. t: Go get em guys.

 

[Jolie_Desastre]

No JAL acting is a big part of the movie,if those 3 are to be discussed so be it,why can't we talk about the acting ? it's a forum for just that type of thing

i know . there is no harm in it. honestly. if you don't like the thread don't post in it. it's simple.

ok the script sucked, so the actors aren't totally to blame. but i thought that the actors could have worked more with what they had, like chiklis and evans. they did the best out of everyone. most of the other actors i felt were wooden and there was no life to their characters , evans and chiklis brought life to theirs. chiklis showed his vunerable side, and the audience felt his pain. evans was a scene stealer and really played his part well.(though johnny was never a scene stealer in the comics), their feud was one of the most entertaining things in the movie.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

never Mind.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

McMahon was the weakest link, imo.

 

[Retroman]

McMahon was the weakest link, imo.

Good bye!

 

[TripleF]

No that's a cop out option so i didn't include it,there's always a weak link and room to improve

Wow, so my opinion along with a few others I see, are um, cop out opinions?





Wow, thanks skippy.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Wow, so my opinion along with a few others I see, are um, cop out opinions?





Wow, thanks skippy.

You been reading Milks posts ? anyway i'll reply to some of the other points later but i just wanted to say to this one that i don't care what names you use or how flippant you are it's naive as hell to think that all 5 actors nailed their roles precicesly,it's just impossible,i loved BB and thought Bale was awesome but i don't think anyone feels that he couldn't improve his delivery as Batman,stop being so defensive and just discuss the topic,if you think they were all magnificent then this thread isn't for fantasy land or you

 

[Tony Stark]

Every frickin movie that has ever been made has mistakes in it, or things that could be improved on. So who's going to change them? Should they go remake Lawrence of Arabia because it wasn't perfect?

This thread is so frickin' rediculous it isn't even funny.

The fact that people are called "cop outs" for not going with the Monday morning quarterbacks, is just plain pathetic.

 

[RagingTempest]

I guess Alba, her performance wasn't as terrible as people say!! I would say it was uneven at best!! There some moments were Alba actually did well, especially when her and Johnny would have their little fights. She really played the annoyed sister very well. I'd say were her performance lacked was when she was playing the intelligent side of Sue, because it seemed like she had no idea what she was talking about. Grufford did well for what he was given, I don't understand where his performance lacked at all. Evans and Chicklis stole the show, even with the campy dialogue, so no problem there. McMahon's performance didn't lack acting, it lacked direction!! If any of you saw how well McMahon acted on Charmed and Nip/Tuck, you know he could play the bad guy persona very well!! So I would say the script and direction are the blame for his performance. Doom just WASN'T Doom from the get go of the script!! Hopefully, FF2 will fix this!!

 

[gambitfire]

I think the actors where good the first time around, they were just written badly.

Oh and Kerry Washington didn't do anything so i hope to see more of her this time around.

 

[TripleF]

You been reading Milks posts ? anyway i'll reply to some of the other points later but i just wanted to say to this one that i don't care what names you use or how flippant you are it's naive as hell to think that all 5 actors nailed their roles precicesly,it's just impossible,i loved BB and thought Bale was awesome but i don't think anyone feels that he couldn't improve his delivery as Batman,stop being so defensive and just discuss the topic,if you think they were all magnificent then this thread isn't for fantasy land or you

You been reading Milks posts ?

Don't believe I've met Mr. Milks, so no.

flippant you are it's naive as hell

Sorry to sound flippant, better than calling you an ******* or something, and I'm called alot of things, naive isn't one of them.

My point is very simple, and several have made it here. I don't believe the performances were bad and warrant improvement, I believe their characters were written badly, and they did the best they could do with the material written. That is why I think that the option that is lacking is the option I would have chosen.

Chiklis 4 choices.
Alba in 5 choices.
Gruffund 5 choices.
Evans 5 choices.
Washington 2 choices.
McMahon 3 choices.

Somewhat uneven as I see it. Mostly in the combinations. (of which I'm not quite sure why you have so many, but ok.)

Has nothing to do with being naive, it is just another way of looking at it. Your poll is automatically biased against those that thought everyone did well. Again, has nothing to do with us being naive, but IMO it has everything to do with you thinking that someone was lacking in their performance. Some of us don't think it was lacking in the performance, but the lines that the actors had to perform. Hence, my need for a "none of the above".

PS, don't take Skippy personal man, I call alot of people skippy. Mostly out of sarcasm, rather than personal attack.

stop being so defensive and just discuss the topic,if you think they were all magnificent then this thread isn't for fantasy land or you

lol. Well all I can say to that is, take a look in the mirror dude, I can guarantee you the face you see, won't be mine.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I believe Jessica needs the most improvement, but I don't think her performance was nearly as bad as some here are painting. As one who was violently opposed to her casting at first, I will readily admit there were moments in the first film where she really surprised me with her capture of Susan.

For example, when she, Reed and Ben came into the Baxter Building's living room and she started with "He didn't," (referring to Johnny), "what did he do to his uniform?" etc.,--my mouth dropped open. It was like Susan Richards right off the page. Total mother hen in effect. And Jessica did brilliant with it. I also thought the way she handled herself in Victor's office (when she first met Ben and Reed during the business proposal) was executed perfectly too.

Sadly, there were other times where her voice got so high and whiney that it just annoyed me to no end. And that's when I saw more Jessica Alba than the character bleeding through. Whining suggests tantrum--and tantrum suggests child.

SOLUTION: Put some bass in that voice! And she needs to be dressed and groomed in a more sophisticated fashion that suggests that she is an adult. The first film she was more of "The Invisible Girl" than anything. I want to see Invisible WOMAN this time...

 

[Hunter Rider]

Sorry to sound flippant, better than calling you an ******* or something, and I'm called alot of things, naive isn't one of them.

you say this and then...

Has nothing to do with being naive, it is just another way of looking at it. Your poll is automatically biased against those that thought everyone did well. Again, has nothing to do with us being naive, but IMO it has everything to do with you thinking that someone was lacking in their performance. Some of us don't think it was lacking in the performance, but the lines that the actors had to perform. Hence, my need for a "none of the above".

Contradict yourself

My point is very simple, and several have made it here. I don't believe the performances were bad and warrant improvement, I believe their characters were written badly, and they did the best they could do with the material written. That is why I think that the option that is lacking is the option I would have chosen.

It's all the writers fault that Ioan had no presence or that Julian sounded bored or that a lot felt Jessica conveyed no maturity ? yeah back to my above statement

Chiklis 4 choices.
Alba in 5 choices.
Gruffund 5 choices.
Evans 5 choices.
Washington 2 choices.
McMahon 3 choices.

Somewhat uneven as I see it. Mostly in the combinations. (of which I'm not quite sure why you have so many, but ok.)

That's why i gave a "other combination" option

lol. Well all I can say to that is, take a look in the mirror dude, I can guarantee you the face you see, won't be mine.

Well unless you have acutally perfected the tech from Face/Off i'd imagine that will be the case but if this was some way of trying to suggest i'm the one in fantasy land b/c i choose not to blame everything on the writers then i point again to the above

 

[Hunter Rider]

Every frickin movie that has ever been made has mistakes in it, or things that could be improved on. So who's going to change them? Should they go remake Lawrence of Arabia because it wasn't perfect?

This thread is so frickin' rediculous it isn't even funny.

The fact that people are called "cop outs" for not going with the Monday morning quarterbacks, is just plain pathetic.

Ok you seem to be slow so I'll make it easy for you,every movie has performances,this is a message board,the topic is discussing which of the actors could improve on their portrayal in the next movie,ok you got it now ?

Why you keep bringing up old movies that aren't having sequels where anything could be improved on seems as pointless as both your other posts in here so at least you are consistent

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

*sigh*

This is going to be a loooooong year.

 

[Jasmine]

Personally think it's the script that needs the most work rather than acting IMO. Julian is a very good actor, but he got a rotten deal with the story he was given same for Alba. Acting wise I thought it was good for the most part. I would like Reed to be more of a leader in this one, he was starting to show that towards the end of the first film. Sue's character should be more sophisticated.

 

[TripleF]

you say this and then...



Contradict yourself



It's all the writers fault that Ioan had no presence or that Julian sounded bored or that a lot felt Jessica conveyed no maturity ? yeah back to my above statement



That's why i gave a "other combination" option





Well unless you have acutally perfected the tech from Face/Off i'd imagine that will be the case but if this was some way of trying to suggest i'm the one in fantasy land b/c i choose not to blame everything on the writers then i point again to the above

Hunter, I simply gave my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm not trying to prove you righ or wrong man. I simply did not see an option in your poll for my opinion. So I gave it. You called it a "cop out" I explained why I felt it was my opinion. I gave my explanation of why I have the opinion I do. It is not a contradiction of anything. It's a simple opinion. Around here that is given, I think. If others think someone's performance was not great, then fine. Cool with that, I just wanted to give my opinion, and point out that I wasn't given a chance to vote, because I thought all did well. Jesus dude, opinion, has been given. Done man.

Nothing more to give. I gave my opinion, you think its a cop out and naive. Ooooh and now contradictory. Thanks again, Skippy. Don't want to get into it other than that. I'll get in trouble.