Activision and High Moon announcing Deadpool project at SDCC

[hippie_hunter]

I had a feeling that this was going to happen once the fighting rights were taken away from Capcom. I think that Disney is just planning on treating the Marvel license the way they treated the Star Wars license where Disney keep the social/mobile rights and another company gets the rest. It makes a lot more sense than dividing the rights to various different companies.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I had a feeling that this was going to happen once the fighting rights were taken away from Capcom. I think that Disney is just planning on treating the Marvel license the way they treated the Star Wars license where Disney keep the social/mobile rights and another company gets the rest. It makes a lot more sense than dividing the rights to various different companies.

Yea id agree. I just hope this means decent games from here on out. Hopefully Spider-Man is next, altho i believe that property is under contract through 2017 correct?

 

[hippie_hunter]

You can still purchase the game physically, so no, it's not really "gone". You just lose the option to purchase it digitally.

The games are no longer in print. Once the stores are out, that's it.

 

[Havok83]

I had a feeling that this was going to happen once the fighting rights were taken away from Capcom. I think that Disney is just planning on treating the Marvel license the way they treated the Star Wars license where Disney keep the social/mobile rights and another company gets the rest. It makes a lot more sense than dividing the rights to various different companies.

yeah Marvel poorly managed their IPs before the Disney acquisition and made some horrible decisions. Hopefully Disney's influence will lead to more quality titles instead of ones rushed out for a quick buck

Yea id agree. I just hope this means decent games from here on out. Hopefully Spider-Man is next, altho i believe that property is under contract through 2017 correct?

The X-men license was renewed at the same time as Spiderman and both were set for 2017, yet Wolverine Origins and Xmen Destiny were pulled so Im not sure what happened there

The games are no longer in print. Once the stores are out, that's it.

yes, this

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

So, this is happening because Disney isn't renewing the licenses?

If so, then it's probably for the best. Because, really...if you look at the list of games that are vanishing, most of them aren't things to be proud of. The only ones that I can think of that were good were X-Men Origins Wolverine and the Marvel v. Capcom games (which I've never played, but I hear good things about them).

 

[Havok83]

So, this is happening because Disney isn't renewing the licenses?

If so, then it's probably for the best. Because, really...if you look at the list of games that are vanishing, most of them aren't things to be proud of. The only ones that I can think of that were good were X-Men Origins Wolverine and the Marvel v. Capcom games (which I've never played, but I hear good things about them).

Pretty much. It started when the Sega licenses expired a year or 2 ago and we recently saw it happened with Capcom and now Activision. I think they want control of their IPs again and are letting the licenses lapse as opposed to renewing them as they re-evaluate the gaming division

 

[hippie_hunter]

Yea id agree. I just hope this means decent games from here on out. Hopefully Spider-Man is next, altho i believe that property is under contract through 2017 correct?

Spider-Man expires in 2017, but Disney has a history of where if it's possible, they'll end the contracts early. With Activision moving away from licensed games and how they parted with the X-Men rights without remorse, I honestly won't be surprised if Amazing Spider-Man 2 is the last Activision Spider-Man game.

I think we're going to see EA get the Marvel license soon.

 

[Nathan]

I need Marvel to at least revive that canceled Avengers game, or do something similar.

 

[zenith16]

Well i'm happy the Ip was taken back but what marvel should to is take charge like they did with making marvel movie studio's and hire some one like Dc did with Jim Lee who has had some Experience with the video game industry and that person is Joe mad for marvel. They can keep TQ in the same position, he 's at but have him be Joe mad's Right hand man while Joe mad will be his boss as full president there have TQ be his hand man in the vp position. cause like jim lee joe mad has worked with some very good dev's. and knows his way around there since he left marvel for the video game industry and came back

But start a marvel studio's/ publishing for the video game side as well . and they have better protection of their characters in how their used in the video game industry. They were tired of what the movie industry was doing to them and they made their own movie studio. The same should have been done with the video games side a while ago.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Pretty much. It started when the Sega licenses expired a year or 2 ago and we recently saw it happened with Capcom and now Activision. I think they want control of their IPs again and are letting the licenses lapse as opposed to renewing them as they re-evaluate the gaming division

Disney has already reevaluated their games division. They're going exclusively social/mobile while licensing out properties like Star Wars to companies like EA. I think Disney is just trying to boost the value of the Marvel IP to where the sell all of the rights (with the exception of social/mobile) as opposed to Activision having Spider-Man and X-Men, Capcom having the fighting rights, Gazillion having the MMO rights, Sega having the movie rights, etc.

As for the Sega deal, I don't think Disney had any say on that one. After numerous terrible games, Marvel Entertainment just took them away from Sega. I'm pretty sure that these contracts have a quality clause in them. And I think Disney probably used that excuse to get some of the rights back from Activision.

 

[Havok83]

Disney has already reevaluated their games division. They're going exclusively social/mobile while licensing out properties like Star Wars to companies like EA. I think Disney is just trying to boost the value of the Marvel IP to where the sell all of the rights (with the exception of social/mobile) as opposed to Activision having Spider-Man and X-Men, Capcom having the fighting rights, Gazillion having the MMO rights, Sega having the movie rights, etc.

As for the Sega deal, I don't think Disney had any say on that one. After numerous terrible games, Marvel Entertainment just took them away from Sega. I'm pretty sure that these contracts have a quality clause in them. And I think Disney probably used that excuse to get some of the rights back from Activision.

Marvel nor Disney "took the rights" away from Sega. They had a contract and that license expired in 2011. In early 2012, Marvel announced they weren't going to have it renewed. It lapsed; it want taken away prematurely before the deal was up

 

[zenith16]

yes if you remember marvel was with activiston as far back as when they made maxium Carnage which predates marvel being bought by Disney so they were being run the same way as when they first entered the movie industry til now. Prior to that Disney wasn't apart of that deal cause marvel was in bed with activison way before marvel finally went to disney to make sure they themselves won't be in financial dip's and still run their comic's division. While dc had been enjoying that with Warner for decades now, compared to them. That stuff with Disney is recent and so far since buying marvel they were hands off and only started with ios projects recently with marvel.

As to Sega their contract did Expire. But that was also due to marvel not wanting to resign up too cause they were so many flops from them. And some parts of sega middle management was doing to same to other smaller Dev studio's that Activison's (top boss's) were doing to others like what happened to obsidian and alpha protocol..


Thus what marvel needs to do is make their games division more like their movie studio's division, So they won't be manipulated. So far the only thing they have control of and full say over is with Marvel Heroes and super hero Squad at gaz which was younger then their deal with Activison and sega.

 

[Havok83]

and Sega has been making Marvel games going way back to the Genesis X-men games and Cacpom has been going back to X-men COTA, etc... Marvel has had various companies make their games for decades. This past gen it became apparent that that hasn't been in the best interest to have so many hands in the pot. There's new management in charge now with all companies involved and the same rules don't necessarily apply as the gaming landscape is now different as are things on the backhand that we aren't necessarily privy to. Going forward into the next gen, it probably makes more sense to consolidate and place more emphasis on quality as opposed to quantity bc Marvel had it the other way around

 

[zenith16]

yeah well I'm just saying just do what they did with the movie division. it should have been done a while ago but ... I also like Disney to look into how marvel does some of marvel's editing practice's on the comic's side( like when they make a chose to reform a super villain like the Juggernaut and some writer come in later and screws it up like what went down in thunderbolts ) a bit too. But that's another animal all together. serious restructuring is needed.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, for a long time Marvel had really screwed up with how scattered the IP's had been divided. It was a real mess, when you think about it. I think I've seen people here predict that at some point they were going to just have to let things expire so that they could atleast have everything in one basket. Even though I guess their movie stuff is still kinda fragmented.

 

[zenith16]

Well be happy this isn't same deal with the video industry. What happened with marvel and fox on the movie side is what some claim the old comic industry did back in the day with the creators of certain characters and their royalty's deal . The sad part is we won't see some thing like marvel getting the movie rights to X-Men or Spider man unless Disney become ruthless and does a corporate take over of fox mostly and shut them down. They won't have to do that with Sony. But just saying

 

[ProjectPat2280]

The games are no longer in print. Once the stores are out, that's it.

It'll never be gone as long as there is a used market. My previous point still stands. The game isn't "gone"

 

[Destructus86]

I'm sure they are easy to still get on this place called....the interwebs.

 

[hippie_hunter]

It'll never be gone as long as there is a used market. My previous point still stands. The game isn't "gone"

True point.

 

[Nathan]

I'm sure they are easy to still get on this place called....the interwebs.

All digital is going to be a sucky future. Games get pulled when licenses expire, hard copies won't be available anymore, you'll practically be forced to pirate when you missed out on a game.

 

[Havok83]

All digital is going to be a sucky future. Games get pulled when licenses expire, hard copies won't be available anymore, you'll practically be forced to pirate when you missed out on a game.

at that point those developers wouldn't be making any money off the games anyway, so they probably wont care

 

[KevanG]

There will always be things like Steam for games like that.

 

[Havok83]

There will always be things like Steam for games like that.

These games were pulled off Steam so no

 

[zenith16]

They pulled it from steam too unless you bought it from there already they're gone. So whom ever has it from there better hold on to it.

 

[KevanG]

Well so much for that.

There'll still be copies for years at Gamestop and the like. So it's not like it'll be impossible to find a copy, a least for a few years.

I really should get around to playing it. It's just been low on the buy list for so long after so many negative reviews that I haven't really bothered to look for it for a decent price.