Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD TV series for ABC - General Discussion - LEVEL 11 - Part 4

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? because DD likely isn't getting a film. Marvel can only put out so many movies a year, so they decided to take the street level drama to Television.

The point, of course, was that, despite Daredevil being one of their most valuable properties, they didn't go with the "anything other than a movie doesn't do service to the character" line of thinking, they didn't think television (well, Netflix), was below it.

umm news flash. That's not confirmed. Though as likely as it is.. Wakanda is likely in Avengers 2, so it does make sense to have him there in a role... there's also a chance panther is popping up... and Panther DOES pop up in the next Marvel film post A2 (aside from ant-man) he's starring in Captain America : Civil War so yeah... he's being introduce in film BEFORE his own solo which is fine. It's just different if you introduce people on tv for a film (a different audience, and a different medium) and also then do so 4 years before they show up on film

News flash, I'm well aware of that, it's the reason I wrote "but it seems like they did it in all likelyhood" in my previous post.

The "different audience and different medium" is a fair point, I'll grant you that: I don't recall any good examples of actors cast for TV roles who have moved on to do the same roles on movies and have them be box office successes. I'm at a loss, however, at alternatives of how the Inhumans can be introduced into the MCU.

I think we forget that the Inhumans were NEVER introduced on their own in any media so far - it has always happened in someone else's books or shows, like the Fantastic Four or Hulk and the Agents of SMASH - and they're not a tried and true success even in the comic book world so far, unlike Guardians of the Galaxy and despite Marvel's efforts. As such, an introduction prior to the movie, in the same vein Black Panther is getting, would do wonders to ensure the movie's success. Furthermore, it is not guaranteed the 2019 movie will be an origin one, on the contrary: sandwiching it between parts 1 and 2 of "Avengers: Infinity War" may point to it being a tie-in movie, so to speak, and an origin tale wouldn't fit well in this take.

In any case, we're likely to know this a month from now.
 
News flash, I'm well aware of that, it's the reason I wrote "but it seems like they did it in all likelyhood" in my previous post.

The "different audience and different medium" is a fair point, I'll grant you that: I don't recall any good examples of actors cast for TV roles who have moved on to do the same roles on movies and have them be box office successes. I'm at a loss, however, at alternatives of how the Inhumans can be introduced into the MCU.

Kree explorers, mixing human and alien DNA, alien outposts on earth - the Inhumans ARE being introduced to viewers of Agents of SHIELD. But not the Royal Family.

The Inhumans movie won't be out until 2018. And though Marvel Studios certainly has a first script ready, it will likely go through numerous iterations between now and the release date. They can't introduce Black Bolt and Lockjaw on AOS and tell viewers that we'll see them again in three years.

So we'll be introduced to the concept of Inhumans on AOS, and powered characters that show up will be revealed to have alien blood coursing through their veins. But whoever is hired as the Inhumans director will want to have some say in how the core characters are presented. That means that they are off limits for a while.
 
But whoever is hired as the Inhumans director will want to have some say in how the core characters are presented. That means that they are off limits for a while.

Oh, please! Black Panther has no director yet, by the time it does the character'll already have a take the director will have to be faithful to when it begins principal photography, do you seriously think they wouldn't do the same to the Inhumans movie if they so wish it?

The movie does have a writer, though, it's Mark Bailey: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825683/.
 
Oh, please! Black Panther has no director yet, by the time it does the character'll already have a take the director will have to be faithful to when it begins principal photography, do you seriously think they wouldn't do the same to the Inhumans movie if they so wish it?

The movie does have a writer, though, it's Mark Bailey: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825683/.

Oh please?

Though Marvel may introduce the Royal Family prior to 2018, they are not going to have Vin Diesel's Black Bolt pop up on a TV show and say "See you in three years!"

Though there has been some overlap between the TV and Film universes, Feige is not going to let the AOS showrunners play with his "toys" until he is ready to reveal them.
 
The clues are there, but I don't think they will be called Inhumans yet. They will remain as "Gifted" for the time being.
 
Oh please?

Though Marvel may introduce the Royal Family prior to 2018, they are not going to have Vin Diesel's Black Bolt pop up on a TV show and say "See you in three years!"

Though there has been some overlap between the TV and Film universes, Feige is not going to let the AOS showrunners play with his "toys" until he is ready to reveal them.

After all, the show didn't really reach it's true potential until they revealed the Hydra stuff in Winter Soldier.
 
Dont get your hopes up. I dont think he's happening at all

I doubt they are going to treat Mar-Vell, who had his own comic title nearly as long as the often pushed Ms. Marvel and after all the years of being out of print has a cult following, as an origin catalyst like Abn Sur. Mar-Vell will more than likely carry a little more weight than that and not die inside of 10-15 minutes.
Feige DID say Carol will have been one of MANY who have worn the Costume. I'm guessing they're taking the protector of the Universe approach. Mar Vell could be her predecessor
 
The point, of course, was that, despite Daredevil being one of their most valuable properties, they didn't go with the "anything other than a movie doesn't do service to the character" line of thinking, they didn't think television (well, Netflix), was below it.

Daredevil is a different case though because they specifically cited him when talking about how certain properties weren't getting movies because their previous franchises hadn't done well enough. Daredevil is a popular hero but I'm gonna guess the major reason he's getting a TV show and not a movie is precisely because they feel the previous franchise's poor performance made him less valuable in terms of their overall Cinematic Universe.

And as they said unless they REALLY want to do it I can't see them getting the leads of the Inhumans movie to show up on a TV show with a "Watch our movie in three years!" vibe.

The clues are there, but I don't think they will be called Inhumans yet. They will remain as "Gifted" for the time being.

I disagree. They might not be called Inhumans but they have to call them something to differentiate them from the previous gifted humans we've seen. A whole race of people born with powers is a bit difference from some random jackass who accidentally got super strength from a lab explosion.
 
Also does anyone think we might get a retroactive reveal that some of the Gifted people we've already met may be Inhumans? I'm reminded of how I thought Scorch's origin was really stupid ("He was caught in a nuclear accident but instead of killing him, the radiation gave him superpowers!") and I thought he could be an Inhuman whose dormant genes were just kickstarted by the accident. Or maybe even Donnie Gill, who was recently revealed to be an Inhuman in the comics. Maybe he had latent inborn powers and the explosion from his weather device just awakened them?

Did we ever learn where Creel got his absorbing powers from?


I doubt they are going to treat Mar-Vell, who had his own comic title nearly as long as the often pushed Ms. Marvel and after all the years of being out of print has a cult following, as an origin catalyst like Abn Sur. Mar-Vell will more than likely carry a little more weight than that and not die inside of 10-15 minutes.

No offense but we've already seen Marvel take pretty big liberties with things like that in the past. Notice how the Guardians of the Galaxy movie did not include any of the classic team other than Yondu, whose character and origin they completely redid. Don't ever think Marvel won't make a change or take a liberty just because that's not how it was done in the comic books. I do think Mar-Vell will appear, but he's not going to be the major player people seem to think he is.

Certainly not the theories I've seen along the lines of it essentially being a Mar-Vell movie with Carol only getting powers at the very end.
 
There's one sure way to summon an Inhuman quickly.

Coulson can step on a rusty nail and if untreated, he'll soon get lockjaw :hehe:
 
Feige DID say Carol will have been one of MANY who have worn the Costume.
When did he say that? At the media event announcement, he said "Let me clarify, Captain Marvel's gone by many names in the comics, has had many people who've inhabited that costume and used that power base. I wanna make it very clear that this Captain Marvel's name is Carol Danvers." I don't think he's saying that in the films she will be one of many. He just wanted to clarify that Carol would be the star and not anyone else who has had that title in the past comics.
 
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"It gave me clarity of mind. It gave me a vision of the world that is waiting beneath the surface of this world."

That's the direct quote from Garrett shortly after he took the GH325.
 
Thinking about the city the obvious choice is Attilan but as already stated I doubt we will see that until the Inhumans film, and I would think this City will be found long before that.

The ruins in the blue area of the moon would fit, but given TV restraints and possible rights issues with the FF (first appeared in FF and The Watcher is with them for sure) they might revise that Kree/Cotari experiment concept so that all went down on Earth instead, perhaps in Antarctica, where they could merge it with the Savage Land too (and I think Mockingbird first appeared with Ka-Zar?)

The Eternals is another option. Similar concept as the Inhumans, and I think Thanos (and all Titanians) were ret-conned into being them? We have seen one dead Celestial and another in action in GOTG too so they might go with that.

Last one (I'd think this least likely) could be Atlantis. Not sure if they'd run with that though (having Atlanteans descendent of an alien race) plus afaik there's no plans for Namor in anything atm.

Whatever they go with I figure there must end up being an Inhuman connection there. My best guess is they might merge the Eternals with them (which has been done in the books. Thanos's son, 'Thane' is a hybrid of the 2). Next would be the blue area of the moon moved to Antarctica.
 
Oh please?

Though Marvel may introduce the Royal Family prior to 2018, they are not going to have Vin Diesel's Black Bolt pop up on a TV show and say "See you in three years!"

Though there has been some overlap between the TV and Film universes, Feige is not going to let the AOS showrunners play with his "toys" until he is ready to reveal them.


Indeed...Black Bolt isn't showing up on this show. And (insert favorite religious figure here) willing, Diesel won't be playing Black Bolt.
 
Found that Trust cap image

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There's actually FIVE propaganda posters
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/5-avengers-propaganda-posters-that-will-accidentally-recruit?bfpi
 
No offense but we've already seen Marvel take pretty big liberties with things like that in the past. Notice how the Guardians of the Galaxy movie did not include any of the classic team other than Yondu, whose character and origin they completely redid. Don't ever think Marvel won't make a change or take a liberty just because that's not how it was done in the comic books. I do think Mar-Vell will appear, but he's not going to be the major player people seem to think he is.

Certainly not the theories I've seen along the lines of it essentially being a Mar-Vell movie with Carol only getting powers at the very end.

No offense taken. The difference with the Yondu thing and Mar-Vell is Mar-Vell is a higher ranking character in the pantheon of Marvel characters with wayyyy more history than a character from an obscure title, the originals. I really don't think Mar-Vell will be relegated to being in the movie for a few minutes ala Abin Sur. The movie will be a Carol Danvers movie but I think Mar-Vell will be in it in a supporting roll for maybe half the film. I think he'll be Abin Sur, Tomar-Re, and Killowog rolled in to one so to speak and die and pass on his powers.
 
When did he say that? At the media event announcement, he said that "Let me clarify, Captain Marvel's gone by many names in the comics, has had many people who've inhabited that costume and used that power base. I wanna make it very clear that this Captain Marvel's name is Carol Danvers." I don't think he's saying that in the films she will be one of many. He just wanted to clarify that Carol would be the star and not anyone else who has had that title in the past comics.
No, I didn't say they ALL will be IN the film. I'm saying that there will probably be a MENTION that there WERE others
 
I dont think we will get that. If at best Mar-vell will pass his powers onto her and train her. I think we will only see or have reference of one previous captain marvel "mar-vel"
 
I dont think we will get that. If at best Mar-vell will pass his powers onto her and train her. I think we will only see or have reference of one previous captain marvel "mar-vel"
Either way, The powers are STILL cosmically connected, I just hope we at least get SOME kind of acknowledgement of where the powers come from.
 
Mockingbird did first appear with Ka-Zar but didn't she get completely retooled after that?
I'm also curious about the actress saying that Hawkeye is still very important to her character when they gave the ex-husband plot line to Hunter...maybe Barton was her first SO?

Also, we shouldn't dismiss Marvel revealing important stuff on AOS when only AOS viewers know who the current director of SHIELD is...
 
And? To the movie audience SHIELD is history and Coulson is dead. And thats important because that's what the heroes believe to be true.

SHIELD and Director Coulson are pretty deep underground right now.
 
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