Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD TV series for ABC - General Discussion - LEVEL 11 - Part 4

[Lilbaz]

Really liked the episode. AoS seems to have grown up.

 

[seahammer]

• Attilan(also called The Hidden Land) – Home of the Inhumans. Originally an island in the North Atlantic ocean, it has moved several times, including to the Andes, Himalayas, to the Blue Area on the Moon, the homeworld of the alien Kree, Halahttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hala_(comics)&action=edit&redlink=1. More recently Attilan was destroyed during the events of Infinity by Black Bolt when he detonates the Terrigen Bomb, the remains of Attilan now reside within New York, in the Hudson Estuary.

I can see it on Earth in the Himalayas

You know, I wouldn't mind this city being in the Andes instead of the Himalayas just to cut down on the redundancy between Attilan, K'un-L'un (home of Iron Fist), and Kamar-Taj (where The Ancient One trains Dr. Strange). Not a big deal either way, though.

If all of this isnt what we think it is this is one helluva cruel misdirection job by Marvel.

Haha so true!

 

[fixxxer]

Yeah they said the alien was older than the pyramids, so it makes sense.

I feel like they will discover an abandoned city where the Kree did their experiments, and the original Inhumans lived before some moved on to Attilan and some of them integrated back with humanity.

That means they can actually discover a city and find answers on this show without compromising the film. I don't see it being the Kree homeworld, simply because how would they be able to find that answer out.

Bingo! This is pretty much exactly what I was thinking after watching the episode.

 

[Lilbaz]

You know, I wouldn't mind this city being in the Andes instead of the Himalayas just to cut down on the redundancy between Attilan, K'un-L'un (home of Iron Fist), and Kamar-Taj (where The Ancient One trains Dr. Strange). Not a big deal either way, though.



Haha so true!

You can almost see the Ancient One doing his weekly shopping trip in Attilan.

- Would you like Lockjaw to give you a lift home Ancient One? Those bags are awful heavy and your back is still playing you up.
- Thank you Medussa but I'm fine. Wong has got the magic carpet with him.

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Doctor Steven Strange has been searching for 2 weeks. He ran out of food yesterday and his broken hands had siezed up with the cold. But finally he'd made it. This had to be. An ancient city in hidden in the Himalayas. With the strength he had remaining he banged on the golden doors.
He heard a muffled voice from the other side.
- That better not be bloody carol singers again.
The door opened slowly and a figure dressed in green with a yellow headscarf looked out.
- Ancient One? Steven gasped.
- Sorry mate no. This is Ku'n Lu'n. Everyone always makes that mistake. His mountain is 3 over to the left.
If you're going that way you wouldn't take some post for him would you? Bloody mail man never gets it right. Oh and look out for Dragons. It's mating season, and they really don't care where they stick it.
Cheerio.

And the door slammed shut. Steven groaned in despair. And just sat there looking at the 2 utility bills and an Ann Summers catalogue.

 

[marcvader]

I still wouldn't rule out mar-vell. He may never be named. But coulson and the kree body could indeed lead to ms marvel none the less

This would be beyond lame.

 

[Vartha]

Isn't it more likely the city is the kree homeworld? Its going to still be about what? 4 years? Until the inhumans movie? They arnt going to introduce them now and wait for 4 years to show the royal family... nor would they introduce Attilan before the inhumans movie.

Plus wasn't it confirmed the alien was kree by one of the actors on the show?

If this ties into the inhumans at all, its likely that the dead kree is one of the kree that experimented on humans and turned them into inhumans

I guess that can also be a possibility, since the body was a Kree, but it still doesn't mean it's NOT Attilan. What if the city just transferred to the Inhumans? Basically the experiments taking over the Earth bound city

 

[Vartha]

I've feel like a fool thinking Skye & her father are [blackout]Kree [/blackout] when in fact they are [blackout]Inhumans! [/blackout]

All of this makes so much more sense now:

• The Ancient Alien
• The regenerative powers of the blood
• The increased knowledge
• The Artifact

Terrigan Mist is what was in the alien's blood!



I would not be surprised that Skye's father is [blackout]Maximus![/blackout]

I agree with this last part. He just seems to be acting that part

 

[Comics]

I agree with this last part. He just seems to be acting that part

Meh. All I've seen so far is

Spoiler

Maximus The Slightly Miffed

 

[H.U.S.T.L.E.]

Man, this show has been killing it thus far this season.

The alien writing storyline was handled very well in the most recent episode and I got an X-Files type vibe with some of it too, so that was well done.

I've also enjoyed the way they've handled Ward's character as well - something they've excelled at conveying this season is how skilled and dangerous he really can be. I felt that was always a weak point in the show's early goings and it wasn't until they revealed him as HYDRA that it began to take shape, but they've done an even better job in Season 2. He's doing an excellent job with the loose cannon/agent of chaos role, so props to him.

So far, they've juggled the concurrent Ward and alien writing storylines pretty deftly, so I'm hoping that continues. It's always a little worrisome when multiple plots are moving along, but it's been pretty clear that Ward knows a little more than he lets on so I'm guessing they'll come back together at some point.

 

[Vartha]

Meh. All I've seen so far is

Spoiler

Maximus The Slightly Miffed

lol I can still see him as Maximus, granted not at his WORSE but still

 

[Silvermoon]

Don't think this has been posted yet, apparently AoS will finally be on Netflix in the U.S. on November 20th:

http://decider.com/2014/11/11/marvels-agents-of-shield-netflix/

 

[spideyboy_1111]

This would be beyond lame.

well.. they arn't going to give us 2 Captain Marvel's so if Mar-Vell is in Captain Marvel at all.. he will be killed off early on ala green lantern

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I agree with this last part. He just seems to be acting that part

see that's the part i don't agree with.. why would they introduce Maximus... A ROYAL INHUMAN 4 years before the movie?

I still think he's MR. HYDE and Skye is Quake. they just might make them Inhumans

 

[Heretic]

There is no way that Maclachlan is Maximus.

Maximus will be an important character in a new Marvel franchise, and we can assume that he will have a multi-picture deal.

Kyle Maclachlan will be 59 years old (I think) when the first Inhumans movie is released.

 

[Demileto]

see that's the part i don't agree with.. why would they introduce Maximus... A ROYAL INHUMAN 4 years before the movie

To be fair, as far as the major Inhumans are concerned even among them there are those that are more major than the others: Karnak certainly doesn't have the same weight in their story as Black Bolt or Medusa, for example.

That said, Maximus IS a "MAJOR major" Inhuman, so IF they dare introduce him long before their movie and on Agents of SHIELD of all things Marvel it'd certainly be for the same reason they're introducing Tchalla and - supposedly - Ulysses Klaw before the Black Panther movie: they don't want it to be an origin movie, they want their story to have been kickstarted already so they can get into the action already within the first 30 minutes. For the Inhumans, it means they could potentially skip the obvious first movie plot of Maximus orchestrating a coup to dethrone his brother Black Bolt, a plot all too similar of the one we saw in Thor, only with Thor and Loki replacing Black Bolt and Maximus.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Just because we won't see the Inhumans until 2018 doesn't mean that we won't see Inhumanity before then.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

To be fair, as far as the major Inhumans are concerned even among them there are those that are more major than the others: Karnak certainly doesn't have the same weight in their story as Black Bolt or Medusa, for example.

That said, Maximus IS a "MAJOR major" Inhuman, so IF they dare introduce him long before their movie and on Agents of SHIELD of all things Marvel it'd certainly be for the same reason they're introducing Tchalla and - supposedly - Ulysses Klaw before the Black Panther movie: they don't want it to be an origin movie, they want their story to have been kickstarted already so they can get into the action already within the first 30 minutes. For the Inhumans, it means they could potentially skip the obvious first movie plot of Maximus orchestrating a coup to dethrone his brother Black Bolt, a plot all too similar of the one we saw in Thor, only with Thor and Loki replacing Black Bolt and Maximus.

the whole royal family from Crystal, Black Bolt, and Medusa to Triton, Karnak, Maximus and Lock jaw are likely all off limits because you can't introduce them in a tv series or the inhuman stars without hurting the future film. It's also just not practical for getting actors to be contracted to a tv show to later appear in a movie 4 years from now

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Just because we won't see the Inhumans until 2018 doesn't mean that we won't see Inhumanity before then.

eh, maybe a severely watered down version. The issue is alot of people DONT watch shield... and you've got to be sure to not expect people to watch shield to later fully enjoy the inhumans movie

 

[Dr. Evil]

eh, maybe a severely watered down version. The issue is alot of people DONT watch shield... and you've got to be sure to not expect people to watch shield to later fully enjoy the inhumans movie

we'll see after Age of Ultron.

 

[marcvader]

well.. they arn't going to give us 2 Captain Marvel's so if Mar-Vell is in Captain Marvel at all.. he will be killed off early on ala green lantern

I doubt they are going to treat Mar-Vell, who had his own comic title nearly as long as the often pushed Ms. Marvel and after all the years of being out of print has a cult following, as an origin catalyst like Abn Sur. Mar-Vell will more than likely carry a little more weight than that and not die inside of 10-15 minutes.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I doubt they are going to treat Mar-Vell, who had his own comic title nearly as long as the often pushed Ms. Marvel and after all the years of being out of print has a cult following, as an origin catalyst like Abn Sur. Mar-Vell will more than likely carry a little more weight than that and not die inside of 10-15 minutes.

Dont get your hopes up. I dont think he's happening at all

 

[nogolf33]

lol I can still see him as [BLACKOUT]Maximus[/BLACKOUT], granted not at his WORSE but still

I don't know enough about [BLACKOUT]Maximus[/BLACKOUT] to agree. I was thinking of [BLACKOUT]Mr. Hyde[/BLACKOUT] when I saw the ending of the episode where the Doctor meets Whitehall. Skye could be one of a number of comic book characters with a retconned history. [BLACKOUT]Mr. Hyde and Daisy Johnson [/BLACKOUT] appear consistent with the characters. if the Doctor puts on armor and starts experimenting with genetics I'll start to freak!

At the current pace they will reveal something with Skye at the end of the season - OR - Coulson will start a new obsession with homing to the city.

 

[Demileto]

the whole royal family from Crystal, Black Bolt, and Medusa to Triton, Karnak, Maximus and Lock jaw are likely all off limits because you can't introduce them in a tv series or the inhuman stars without hurting the future film.

Please enlighten me why would it be so. At least one of Marvel's most valuable properties, Daredevil, has gone the way of a Netflix show instead of a movie, so I don't see why this is a problem.

It's also just not practical for getting actors to be contracted to a tv show to later appear in a movie 4 years from now

It's also not practical to cast the villain of Black Panther 3 years before the movie gets its theatrical release, but it seems like they did it in all likelyhood. Oh, well!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Please enlighten me why is it so. At least one of Marvel's most valuable properties, Daredevil, has gone the way of a Netflix show instead of a movie, so I don't see why this is a problem.

? because DD likely isn't getting a film. Marvel can only put out so many movies a year, so they decided to take the street level drama to Television.

It's also not practical to cast the villain of Black Panther 3 years before the movie gets its theatrical release, but it seems like they did it in all likelyhood. Oh, well!

umm news flash. That's not confirmed. Though as likely as it is.. Wakanda is likely in Avengers 2, so it does make sense to have him there in a role... there's also a chance panther is popping up... and Panther DOES pop up in the next Marvel film post A2 (aside from ant-man) he's starring in Captain America : Civil War so yeah... he's being introduce in film BEFORE his own solo which is fine. It's just different if you introduce people on tv for a film (a different audience, and a different medium) and also then do so 4 years before they show up on film

 

[cph9fa]

At the current pace they will reveal something with Skye at the end of the season - OR - Coulson will start a new obsession with homing to the city.

Episode 9 (playing on Dec 2nd, after a one-week break for Thanksgiving) is entitled "Ye Who Enter Here". If that means what it seems to, we could be seeing this city sooner rather than later. That's also the second-to-last episode before the Christmas break.