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What reason would Sif need to return?

what happened to the fridge prisoners?
I think s/he means after that.They were freed by John Garrett.
I think s/he means after that.
Bell never came out and said it explicitly, but reading between the lines of his answer to the Attilan questions, I think he Inhumans connection is all but confirmed. Or did no one else get that sense?Very long interview with Jeff Bell on Newsarama
http://www.newsarama.com/22854-agen...-inhuman-theories-ward-s-future-and-more.html
According to him, the next few episodes will leave people freaking out with excitement
Newsarama: Jeff, I want to ask you about the slow burn of the central mystery of the show so far, and the way it has evolved. It started out being about How is Coulson alive? Then it turned into What is the formula? What is this blue alien? and then Why wasnt Skye affected? What is the writing? How much of these changes and these evolutions to that mystery were planned out originally?
Jeff Bell: Everything thats happened, plus a few to come! The thing about  one of the challenges of doing network, where you do 22 episodes, you cant really devote (unless youre 24 which is concentrated), its very difficult to sustain peoples interest or attention on a single arc. You can do it in 10, you can do it in 13, but when you have 22, it begins to feel like the same slice of pizza every week. If we spent 22 episodes dedicating to finding out the truth about Coulson you couldve done that a few years ago. I keep saying, it took 7 years to learn about Mulders sister on X-Files, but if they did that now, I dont think you could sustain that mystery through even the first season  viewing habits have changed so much. So you need to find ways to have your stories evolve. Bring up a mystery, ask logical questions, and as you set it down and answer it, pick up a new question.
We were very aware of that going into the first season. We knew we had this big thing coming up, Hydra, which we called the H word last year, because we werent allowed to say that word. We had to have other presenting problems, but we also knew we had to solve at least the first piece of the Coulson mystery before that happened, so it gave us a timeline on that. As we resolved that, we brought up Hydra and were able to then segue from Coulson in TAHITI to Hydra and Wards betrayal, which took us to the end of the season. That was by design, and the timing and structure of it was predicated on Cap 2. There was a movie coming out that was going to blow up our organization, we knew that was coming.
So with this season, we knew that we were going to be on for 10 episodes, then be off the air for a bunch of time, then come back and do 12 in a row. So it made sense to us to treat these, not as two seasons, but to spend the first half dealing with one arc. As we answer some of those questions, blow it up and present a new mystery at the end of that, which were still heading towards. When we come back in episode 11 in March, hopefully everything that happens in 9 and 10 will have people freaking out and excited to come back!
But the tent poles have been there. Ive said this before: we work toward tent poles. We know that by this episode we needthat to happen. How you get there is where the fun is. Those elements can change. Ruth Negga who plays Raina  we had no idea we were going to love her so much. So we kept giving her more and more  things like that can evolve. The overall shape of it is what we sat down and were discussing at the beginning of the season.
Nrama: So obviously the reveal of the map being a city was one of those tent poles, right?
Bell: Yes. Weve got, oh what is this thing? Oh, it looks like a map. Oh, its a map of a city. Oh, lets find the city, and thats how we left 8. So I dont need to say much to go, What do you think episode 9 is about? [laughs] So yes, there is a progression, and theres Whats in the city? Should we be here? Whats happening? I think there are sort of natural questions that people have right now that set themselves up for us to look at.
And hopefully we can subvert a lot of those expectations and make something else happen  because thats what we do! Otherwise it wouldnt be a good story.
Nrama: Absolutely. With this storyline, at its core its been building since literally season 1, episode 1. What do you see being the pressures of the payoff of a story that has built upon itself that way over the course of a season and a half?
Bell: I would say the way we view it, its not a single payoff, its been a whole bunch of payoffs as we ask and answer new questions. So learning things about Tahiti, then seemingly putting it down last season and coming back to it in episode 7 this year to learn more about it was fun. Seeing a blue guy in an episode last year, then getting back into the GH formula this year, its been putting things down and picking them back up. So I think we feel pretty confident that what were building to is cool! We think its cool, we hope people think its cool! Beyond that, its not a final, final  were not revealing every secret of the island here, its not the payoff of just one central question, its we have a cool reveal coming up, and after that, were only halfway through Season 2. So we have many more cool reveals that we hope will lead to many more cool questions.
Nrama: What do you guys do to make sure that youre making these reveals big for both longtime Marvel Comics fans and accessible enough for people who are only in this world through the MCU?
Bell: Well, in general we try to break a cool story that anyone can show up and understand. We then try and populate that with details that are meaningful to Marvel fans.
The fact that Bill Paxton showed up last year and was John Garrett, hes this really fun, big presence, and eventually he was revealed to be a bad guy and everything else. For Marvel fans, they know, Oh, John Garrett, thats super cool  does he have his cyborg body? What are they going to do with that? And we show a piece of that. We do our version of that. So I think its really exciting for Marvel fans to get those pieces, but you dont need to know that for the story to be enjoyable. Thats the key to doing it, and I think the movies do that really well.
Guardians of the Galaxywas a property where there are 12 people that know that comic, and they did an amazing job of making these alien worlds feel warm and familiar. Its also the most genius use of pop songs Ive ever seen in my entire life.
We try to tell you stories  S.H.I.E.L.D. is a family, and Coulson is a surrogate father for Skye  this year her biological father shows up, so you have a daughter torn between two fathers. Thats something that thematically plays to everyone, no matter what, regardless of who she is, or what her name is, or who her father is, or what he is, thats something that anybody at home can enjoy and understand. And if those people do in fact tie into the Marvel Universe in an extra cool way, then for those fans, hopefully its sprinkles on top of your ice cream.
Nrama: No takebacks! You also said that the aliens have been around for hundreds or thousands of years, and that they came to test humanity and we have a hidden city this all makes people think of places like Attilan, for example, then Kevin Feige comes out during the big Phase 3 announcement and says you might see Inhumans sooner than you think) Obviously, if nothing else, you guys are laying down a foundation that will make people think this way
Bell: I I understand why people might think that way. And our job is to This is something that I have felt on every show that Ive done. I did this little show called Harpers Island which was fun, it was a murder mystery where there were 25 people, the mystery of whos the killer, and were going to reveal that in 13 episodes. The way I and my partners approached that was, it cant be a complete surprise, because then you suck and you cheated. It cant be that obvious that everybody understand, because then you suck.
So you try to lay breadcrumbs that a third of the people go, Oh my god, its that! and a third of the people go, I cant believe it was that! and the other third go, Im sorry, what was the conversation? You try to present it that way. So that doesnt mean were always literally going where were laying breadcrumbs, but wherever were going, we trust that weve set it up properly, so when it happens, the right people will go, That was cool or that make sense or I didnt think that was coming, but its all earned.
So yes, weve been seeing a lot of stuff, and its fun to read all the theories, and fun to see them develop over the last year and a half.
Nrama: Well, its been fun developing them!
Bell: Cool! And what I hope you realize  if you go back and watch from the very beginning, and you think about Grant Ward turning Hydra in episode 16, there was stuff from the beginning where we laid in pipe for that. We put in things he says and does, Oh, he just took May off the radar by sleeping with her, and hes Skyes C.O.  we try not to cheat, is what Im saying, and we also try and surprise.
There are lots of theories about who people are and whats going to happen with all of that stuff  thats all very fun. Some things dont necessarily line up because some characters belong to certain parts of the Marvel Universe and some people dont Anyway, Im just saying, Im glad people are enjoying that, because were working very hard to do it.
Nrama: How much of that particular pay off will we see in these last two episodes before the break?
Bell: All I will say is we want the first half to end in a way that people will go, Holy ****, Ihave to come back and see the second half.
 
	Very long interview with Jeff Bell on Newsarama
http://www.newsarama.com/22854-agen...-inhuman-theories-ward-s-future-and-more.html
According to him, the next few episodes will leave people freaking out with excitement
Newsarama: Jeff, I want to ask you about the slow burn of the central mystery of the show so far, and the way it has evolved. It started out being about How is Coulson alive? Then it turned into What is the formula? What is this blue alien? and then Why wasnt Skye affected? What is the writing? How much of these changes and these evolutions to that mystery were planned out originally?
Jeff Bell: Everything thats happened, plus a few to come! The thing about  one of the challenges of doing network, where you do 22 episodes, you cant really devote (unless youre 24 which is concentrated), its very difficult to sustain peoples interest or attention on a single arc. You can do it in 10, you can do it in 13, but when you have 22, it begins to feel like the same slice of pizza every week. If we spent 22 episodes dedicating to finding out the truth about Coulson you couldve done that a few years ago. I keep saying, it took 7 years to learn about Mulders sister on X-Files, but if they did that now, I dont think you could sustain that mystery through even the first season  viewing habits have changed so much. So you need to find ways to have your stories evolve. Bring up a mystery, ask logical questions, and as you set it down and answer it, pick up a new question.
We were very aware of that going into the first season. We knew we had this big thing coming up, Hydra, which we called the H word last year, because we werent allowed to say that word. We had to have other presenting problems, but we also knew we had to solve at least the first piece of the Coulson mystery before that happened, so it gave us a timeline on that. As we resolved that, we brought up Hydra and were able to then segue from Coulson in TAHITI to Hydra and Wards betrayal, which took us to the end of the season. That was by design, and the timing and structure of it was predicated on Cap 2. There was a movie coming out that was going to blow up our organization, we knew that was coming.
So with this season, we knew that we were going to be on for 10 episodes, then be off the air for a bunch of time, then come back and do 12 in a row. So it made sense to us to treat these, not as two seasons, but to spend the first half dealing with one arc. As we answer some of those questions, blow it up and present a new mystery at the end of that, which were still heading towards. When we come back in episode 11 in March, hopefully everything that happens in 9 and 10 will have people freaking out and excited to come back!
But the tent poles have been there. Ive said this before: we work toward tent poles. We know that by this episode we needthat to happen. How you get there is where the fun is. Those elements can change. Ruth Negga who plays Raina  we had no idea we were going to love her so much. So we kept giving her more and more  things like that can evolve. The overall shape of it is what we sat down and were discussing at the beginning of the season.
Nrama: So obviously the reveal of the map being a city was one of those tent poles, right?
Bell: Yes. Weve got, oh what is this thing? Oh, it looks like a map. Oh, its a map of a city. Oh, lets find the city, and thats how we left 8. So I dont need to say much to go, What do you think episode 9 is about? [laughs] So yes, there is a progression, and theres Whats in the city? Should we be here? Whats happening? I think there are sort of natural questions that people have right now that set themselves up for us to look at.
And hopefully we can subvert a lot of those expectations and make something else happen  because thats what we do! Otherwise it wouldnt be a good story.
Nrama: Absolutely. With this storyline, at its core its been building since literally season 1, episode 1. What do you see being the pressures of the payoff of a story that has built upon itself that way over the course of a season and a half?
Bell: I would say the way we view it, its not a single payoff, its been a whole bunch of payoffs as we ask and answer new questions. So learning things about Tahiti, then seemingly putting it down last season and coming back to it in episode 7 this year to learn more about it was fun. Seeing a blue guy in an episode last year, then getting back into the GH formula this year, its been putting things down and picking them back up. So I think we feel pretty confident that what were building to is cool! We think its cool, we hope people think its cool! Beyond that, its not a final, final  were not revealing every secret of the island here, its not the payoff of just one central question, its we have a cool reveal coming up, and after that, were only halfway through Season 2. So we have many more cool reveals that we hope will lead to many more cool questions.
Nrama: What do you guys do to make sure that youre making these reveals big for both longtime Marvel Comics fans and accessible enough for people who are only in this world through the MCU?
Bell: Well, in general we try to break a cool story that anyone can show up and understand. We then try and populate that with details that are meaningful to Marvel fans.
The fact that Bill Paxton showed up last year and was John Garrett, hes this really fun, big presence, and eventually he was revealed to be a bad guy and everything else. For Marvel fans, they know, Oh, John Garrett, thats super cool  does he have his cyborg body? What are they going to do with that? And we show a piece of that. We do our version of that. So I think its really exciting for Marvel fans to get those pieces, but you dont need to know that for the story to be enjoyable. Thats the key to doing it, and I think the movies do that really well.
Guardians of the Galaxywas a property where there are 12 people that know that comic, and they did an amazing job of making these alien worlds feel warm and familiar. Its also the most genius use of pop songs Ive ever seen in my entire life.
We try to tell you stories  S.H.I.E.L.D. is a family, and Coulson is a surrogate father for Skye  this year her biological father shows up, so you have a daughter torn between two fathers. Thats something that thematically plays to everyone, no matter what, regardless of who she is, or what her name is, or who her father is, or what he is, thats something that anybody at home can enjoy and understand. And if those people do in fact tie into the Marvel Universe in an extra cool way, then for those fans, hopefully its sprinkles on top of your ice cream.
Nrama: No takebacks! You also said that the aliens have been around for hundreds or thousands of years, and that they came to test humanity and we have a hidden city this all makes people think of places like Attilan, for example, then Kevin Feige comes out during the big Phase 3 announcement and says you might see Inhumans sooner than you think) Obviously, if nothing else, you guys are laying down a foundation that will make people think this way
Bell: I I understand why people might think that way. And our job is to This is something that I have felt on every show that Ive done. I did this little show called Harpers Island which was fun, it was a murder mystery where there were 25 people, the mystery of whos the killer, and were going to reveal that in 13 episodes. The way I and my partners approached that was, it cant be a complete surprise, because then you suck and you cheated. It cant be that obvious that everybody understand, because then you suck.
So you try to lay breadcrumbs that a third of the people go, Oh my god, its that! and a third of the people go, I cant believe it was that! and the other third go, Im sorry, what was the conversation? You try to present it that way. So that doesnt mean were always literally going where were laying breadcrumbs, but wherever were going, we trust that weve set it up properly, so when it happens, the right people will go, That was cool or that make sense or I didnt think that was coming, but its all earned.
So yes, weve been seeing a lot of stuff, and its fun to read all the theories, and fun to see them develop over the last year and a half.
Nrama: Well, its been fun developing them!
Bell: Cool! And what I hope you realize  if you go back and watch from the very beginning, and you think about Grant Ward turning Hydra in episode 16, there was stuff from the beginning where we laid in pipe for that. We put in things he says and does, Oh, he just took May off the radar by sleeping with her, and hes Skyes C.O.  we try not to cheat, is what Im saying, and we also try and surprise.
There are lots of theories about who people are and whats going to happen with all of that stuff  thats all very fun. Some things dont necessarily line up because some characters belong to certain parts of the Marvel Universe and some people dont Anyway, Im just saying, Im glad people are enjoying that, because were working very hard to do it.
Nrama: How much of that particular pay off will we see in these last two episodes before the break?
Bell: All I will say is we want the first half to end in a way that people will go, Holy ****, Ihave to come back and see the second half.
Anyone see this? It's the Inhuman 50th Anniversary Cover and look at the floor on the sides....it looks extremely similar to the writing we have been seeing on AOS.....
Take a look..

well, the next Marvel movie that Loki and Lady Sif will be in is Age of Ultron, so we might have to wait till May 2015 for Asgardians to come back on Agents of Shield.
 
				