Aliens Vs Predator

[Bishop2]

No wonder why everyone's talking about a prequel- no one wants Alien 5 to be a sequel to that (if Alien 5 is ever made).

I do. I want an Alien 5 that takes Ripley #8 deeper into the exploration of her inner conflict and has her finally facing the aliens at the source more than I want almost anything on Earth.

I managed to enjoy Resurrection, although the first script draft was better - of course, it would also have cost over 100 million dollars, but you know, whatever. The ending is the weakest part - waaaaay too predictable and derivative from the moment Ripley escapes the nest. And a few line deliveries need work. Otherwise I think it's got a lot of interesting ideas and of course, just like the highly flawed Alien 3, it looks great. It's not as good as the first two movies, but those two are so damn near flawless it's kind of an impossible task for any sequel.

 

[turtlefocker]

Still no teaser?

 

[SalaciousVC]

no,sadly

 

[Rezzo]

Sadly I think there will never be a teaser

 

[enterthemadness]

Well, at least the movie seems to be heading towards being ''good''.

We know that Fox has given them (directors) money to shoot more scenes.

We know Fox likes the movie and will release it R into theaters.

Now, is the script any good? Maybe, maybe not. The story for AVP was good, just not a good script. The book made it work great, though.

 

[xwolverine2]

Well, at least the movie seems to be heading towards being ''good''.

We know that Fox has given them (directors) money to shoot more scenes.

We know Fox likes the movie and will release it R into theaters.

Now, is the script any good? Maybe, maybe not. The story for AVP was good, just not a good script. The book made it work great, though.

they didnt get much money.... less than the first movie

 

[enterthemadness]

they didnt get much money.... less than the first movie

Yes, but it's been confirmed they got more money to films scenes now.

http://dreadcentral.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835

The directors also recently shot new scenes for the film which are being worked into the trailer. Reportedly, Fox was so pleased with the early version that they gave more money to shoot scenes that were previously cut due to budget and time constraints. This excuse is usually a load of B.S., but considering the film has yet to be test-screened, it definately holds water.

 

[xwolverine2]

or maybe it was SO bad they gave them money...lol

 

[Nathan]

Still no Trailer. ARRRRRGH!!! >_<

 

[Bishop2]

Still no Trailer. ARRRRRGH!!! >_<

Apparently, as enterthemadness already mentioned, it's been delayed to the end of September while they shoot some new scenes and put them into the trailer. Colin Strause posted to explain that there were a few scenes that they originally wanted to shoot that Fox wouldn't give them the money for... but after viewing the rough cut, they decided that the movie didn't flow without those scenes, so they coughed up a little more cash and now they're gonna shoot 'em and put 'em in the first teaser trailer.

Some people have been complaining that, hey, the first trailer isn't gonna be out until 3 months before the movie hits, what does that mean? Well, it means exactly what we've known all along - this is a low budget sequel. They don't want to hype it up because this isn't some epic battle. There's a budget between 30 and 40 million, the lowest budget of either series' history since like the first Alien back before 28 years of inflation. That doesn't mean it's going to be a bad movie, mind you. It just means that they don't want to overhype what's going to be a quieter kind of film.

 

[Spade]

I'm trying to be optimistic, but I'm not so certain about Colin's claim that they have the best marketing company imaginable. I know that some fans are overreacting, so I don't want to sound like I'm pitching into the negativity. But l'm starting to get that ominous ROTSS feel here. All we really have is an old script review of which half has been alluded to have survived in the Strause's working script (the pizza boy, the rural setting, the Wolf, the detachable shoulder cannon, etc.), a few leaked screenshots, and some promises. That makes me uneasy. Add to this that Fox gave them even less to work with to the point that the Aliens are basically reworked AVP designs and it begins to erode my confidence. This franchise can't afford another nail in the coffin. I really cannot see why, in this time of crisis, it's only now that Fox realizes it needs to pump more effort into the quality of the material.

I'm not trying to bash any one side, just putting it out there.

 

[Bishop2]

Add to this that Fox gave them even less to work with to the point that the Aliens are basically reworked AVP designs and it begins to erode my confidence.

Well hell, the designs in AVP were just repaints of the aliens in Resurrection so they would have more money to work on the new predators and queen. Hopefully they at least built new suits out of the old molds. Hey, at least they redesigned the heads this time I guess.

This franchise can't afford another nail in the coffin. I really cannot see why, in this time of crisis, it's only now that Fox realizes it needs to pump more effort into the quality of the material.

I get it. AVP was a huge shot in the arm for the franchise - the most successful movie they had since Aliens and the first Predator, provided that you account for inflation. If you DON'T account for inflation, it made more money than any movie in either franchise! And yet, it also had sharp week-to-week drops and many fans responded with hostility towards it. So they're hedging their bets. It made enough money to keep the series trucking into a new installment, but not enough for them to toss a lot of cash into the new one because they're worried about bitter fans, percentage drops from before, etc. And yet... I can also see the fans' argument that putting LESS money into it isn't a good way to win the fans over, because it ensures less time for creature action.

 

[Spade]

I get it. AVP was a huge shot in the arm for the franchise - the most successful movie they had since Aliens and the first Predator, provided that you account for inflation. If you DON'T account for inflation, it made more money than any movie in either franchise! And yet, it also had sharp week-to-week drops and many fans responded with hostility towards it. So they're hedging their bets. It made enough money to keep the series trucking into a new installment, but not enough for them to toss a lot of cash into the new one because they're worried about bitter fans, percentage drops from before, etc. And yet... I can also see the fans' argument that putting LESS money into it isn't a good way to win the fans over, because it ensures less time for creature action.

I actually wouldn't mind less action. In my humble opinion, some of the best parts in both franchises involved the creature encased in shadow. That's why I was a bit happy to hear that the Aliens wouldn't be scattering around in daylight. But on the budget issue- while that might work for the Superman sequel because they already have things established, wouldn't logic dictate that if they give less room for expansion they would end up with another FF2? That film was the sequel to an ill-received film, and when they just gave an above-average try at it they ended up with less than the first made. Even from a business standpoint, how will spending less elevate the quality so they can get a higher yield? Maybe I shouldn't say that they haven't learned, but it's a bit late in the game to suddenly start showing delayed concern.

 

[Hypestyle]

I want lots of violence shooting and things blowing up in these films.. but I don't want the Predators to win.. they should lose, too..

 

[Bishop2]

I want lots of violence shooting and things blowing up in these films.. but I don't want the Predators to win.. they should lose, too..

I would still argue that they lost last time. I mean c'mon. Every single Predator who gets involved in the fight, dies. Every single alien... except ONE... that's in the fight, dies. And that ONE left standing is obviously the victor. Alien wins.

 

[Spade]

I would still argue that they lost last time. I mean c'mon. Every single Predator who gets involved in the fight, dies. Every single alien... except ONE... that's in the fight, dies. And that ONE left standing is obviously the victor. Alien wins.

Ah, the endless debate among fans...who won in AVP. t: Well, I can see both sides of the argument. On the Aliens' side, their hero character killed two Predators in one stroke, owned the humans, and ultimately won in their own way through the birth of the Predalien chestburster that will undoubtedly kick off AVP2 by killing many Preds. But on the Predator's side, Scar owned a facehugger and Adult at the same time, wiped out the entire colony, and finished off the Queen to boot all in the span of what was to be a three-man hunt with more powerful weaponry to use than just their average melee tools.

I think it's pretty hard to say, but I'd have to agree- coupled with Anderson's weak portrayl of the Predators, the Aliens come off on top by the end of the flick.

 

[xwolverine2]

do they really need to show us anything in the teaser?... whats the hold up?

or are they going straight for a trailer?

 

[Nathan]

I'd be happy enough if we just see the Predator shoot an Alien. I want just something, no matter how small. Just give us something new damn it!

 

[xwolverine2]

I'd be happy enough if we just see the Predator shoot an Alien. I want just something, no matter how small. Just give us something new damn it!

or an alien shoot a predator

 

[Mr. Socko]

I dislike Alien and Predator fighting on earth. I'm a bit skeptic about this.

 

[xwolverine2]

whats the predator without a jungle though?

 

[Symbiotic]

whats the predator without a jungle though?

I prefer the concrete jungles.

 

[DoomRulz]

As long there's a jungle of some sort, it's all good t:

 

[Bishop2]

I dislike Alien and Predator fighting on earth. I'm a bit skeptic about this.

I was highly skeptical of the concept in the first AVP... but very grateful that they kept the Aliens and Predators far away from populated areas so that "containment" of the alien threat could still be a central theme.

Putting them in a populated town in the middle of America makes me quite wary, though.

 

[DoomRulz]

Putting them in a populated town in the middle of America makes me quite wary, though.

How come?