The Dark Knight All signs lead to an amusement park confrontation

[Mr. Socko]

Abandonned amusement park, even though it's done perfectly in the killing joke, might be a little too scooby doo for Nolan. We'll see. Either way, it will be cool to see what they come up with, in terms of lair and confrontation.

LOL

Good point

 

[Figs]

Abandonned amusement park, even though it's done perfectly in the killing joke, might be a little too scooby doo for Nolan. We'll see. Either way, it will be cool to see what they come up with, in terms of lair and confrontation.

I see your point, but I think if he were to use it he would make it fairly dark and atmospheric rather than bright and silly.

 

[Dvhyzs]

Abandonned amusement park, even though it's done perfectly in the killing joke, might be a little too scooby doo for Nolan. We'll see. Either way, it will be cool to see what they come up with, in terms of lair and confrontation.

Hehe, wasn't old man withers the criminal in that one?

 

[mcflytrap]

It's a ****ty idea...let it die.

 

[nickyg641]

Abandonned amusement park, even though it's done perfectly in the killing joke, might be a little too scooby doo for Nolan. We'll see. Either way, it will be cool to see what they come up with, in terms of lair and confrontation.

I kind of agree. It works in the comics, but, yeah, "Scooby Doo".

 

[Nepenthes]

I'd much rather something quiet, private and yet intense in back alley somewhere. Strip it down to basics. Batman and Joker, a confined space, that's it.

 

[Karea07]

i would like an amusement park confrontation

 

[Tempest19]

It can be fcking terrifying if Nolan goes for a more stylistic approach for the scene. Imagine Burton covering a creepy abandoned amusement parks- and if had any- nightmares that terrified u as a child of abandoned amusement parks. Now if you go all out with that, this would be the creepiest and scariest final confrontation- IN FILM HISTORY!

I have this very gothic picture in my mind and all that I can say is that if Nolan has this same image... you're NEVER going to look at an amusement park the same way again without immediately running away from it crying out of fear.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I loved the Amusement Park endings in Mask of the Phantasm and Killing Joke. A stylistic approach to it would be very nice.

 

[BubbaGump]

I'd much rather something quiet, private and yet intense in back alley somewhere. Strip it down to basics. Batman and Joker, a confined space, that's it.

We had that in Dead-End. Joker got eaten.

 

[ragdus]

Am I the only one that thinks using a hall of mirrors to create tension is bordering on cliché, even by Hollywood standards?

 

[ragdus]

We had that in Dead-End. Joker got eaten.

Ew.

Not @ the eating, but @ Dead End.

 

[Tempest19]

Not really, depends on how you play with it. Read this alone in your room in the pitch black with no interuptions:

You walk through an old creepy dark woods to come across an abandoned amusement park. Rain pours heavily from the dark gray sky above. The Ferris Wheel moves in the wind and the carousel slowly spins around in it's arced circle. The amusement park is old, decrypt- no one has been here in a long time. You see one of the horses on the carousel and notice that there is mold running down alongside it which gives a more demonic appearance. You hear a psychotic laugh and then a bolt of lightning! You look around- no where to be seen. You see an old carnival game with a creepy looking clown face in the middle. You walk towards it and hear a door creak behind you. ENTER THE ROOM OF MIRRORS IF YOU DARE! You enter the hall of mirrors and look around. It is dark, almost no sign of any light source. The mirrors are cracked and molding. You hear a psychotic laugh as a figure darts across your field of view... you look around unable to see it. "So tell me, having a good day Batbrain?!" We see a freakish looking clown coming towards us from all angles. "Want to tell us about it?" Joker leans in, his face covers every mirrror. "I'm all ears!" You look around, no where- no sign of where the Joker is coming from.. . you look around. Where the fck is he?!!!!

TO BE CONTINUED IN THE DARK KNIGHT....

I think that could give you guys an idea of how this scene could be played out.... not an active amusement park, but a very old one that has been abandoned for so long mold is growing on the horses on a carousel giving them a demonic appearence. This is similar to an alleyway, but creepier in that it's a dark twisted joke. Turning an innocent place into the place of nightmares, where horror reigns supreme.

Then add a Burtonesque and Gothic feel to the scene via lighting, music, etc. and guaranteed the scene will jump off the pages and scare even the bravest of adults in the theater. Playing off of deep imbeded childhood fears for a dreadfully good scare.

 

[ragdus]

That sounds like a million bad horror movies I've seen.

 

[Tempest19]

To each his own, amusement parks used to scare me as a child. And I actually wrote that bit in about a minute, so- Nolan and crew could obviously do a lot better. And I mean LIGHTYEARS better. But the key elements:

- It is dark. NO ACTIVITY. Only remains of an abandoned amusment park- it is torn apart and is so decrypt that you see mold and the mirrors are cracked. That is one of the differences I see here, some imagine lit amusement parks that look "new" still- in order to be creepy it has to be old and abandoned for more than twenty to forty years type look.
- A gray color pallete to enhance the mold and abandoned nature.
- Gothic. And by Gothic, I mean Burton Gothic.
- Has to not be afraid to go "out there" restraint would be detrimental.

It would be the most original and scariest action sequence in a superhero film- scarrier than an alleyway and a candy factory (well, that could be good- if it's the one from TAS). But, point is- Joker should never be pictured in the film as having a normal fighting location, he should have a "zany" and "wacky" headquarters because that's who the character was/ is/ has always been.

Only thing I'm worried about is that if they do go out there- parents might respond negatively.

Behind GOOD directorial hands this setting would be a miracle.

Not so much the hall of mirrors as the exterior of the amusement park itself. Heavy rain, creepily cheerful setting and brutal hardcore fight = Joker vs. Batman.

Ragdus, just quick question- are you:
1. Against Hall of Mirrors
2. Against amusement park. Period.

Personally on edge about mirrors, but DEFINITE on EXTERIOR of the amusement park due to the griminess an old abandoned amusment park would have.

 

[Arnold Wesker]

I can see this. Joker straps a bunch of paralyzed kids to a shoddy wooden roller coaster and lets it rip, then runs into a funhouse. Maybe a fight on a carousel as it spins around. Or a Ferris Wheel battle. Lots of good possiblities to even the odds.

 

[Nepenthes]

We had that in Dead-End. Joker got eaten.

I don;t see your point. Yeah it happened in Dead End but that was a shiiit movie no one saw.

 

[Juanigi]

technically the entire internet saw it and now they won't shut up about it

 

[jtfaria]

Am I the only one that thinks using a hall of mirrors to create tension is bordering on cliché, even by Hollywood standards?

Cliché by ANY standards, yes, fer sure. Amazing how some people think something they've seen before is great or original just because it comes regurgitated out ot their mouth (or keyboard).

 

[Castlewood]

I'm 100% certain we're getting an amusement park showdown.

Think about it.

Nolan, Bale, and Ledger all say that they're looking at "The Killing Joke" for inspiration. So let's look at "The Killing Joke", shall we?

- Joker's supposed comedian origin
- The first time Joker is really sadistic
- Barbara gets shot in the spine
- Amusement Park showdown
- Joker tells Batman a joke, and they both laugh

Now, if we're looking at TDK according to that list, we're NOT getting the comedian origin, we're NOT getting Barbara Gordon, and I doubt we'll see Batman laughing at a joke. If these things are true, then what EXACTLY is in "The Killing Joke" that inspired Nolan to make TDK?

- The first time Joker is really sadistic
- Amusement Park showdown

I'm telling you... this is what we're getting. Hell, I'd even be pleasantly surprised if Joker kidnapped Jim Gordon and stripped him naked, tied him up and tortured him while clowns pointed and laughed... but that might not pass the PG-13. It's ironic that scenes in a kid's comic book wouldn't pass in a movie for 13 year olds.

 

[the amazing fro]

The amusement park is possibly the best place for a Joker-batman confrontation. if its done right then it will be the best CBM fight ever. If not it will look a mess

 

[SodaPop]

the amusement park idea is a great one, especially if they make it a rundown and shoddy place. and just imagine a fight on a roller coaster or a ferris wheel. that would be tight.

 

[BEEEsH]

Scarecrow uses some kind of gas on batman, and batman pursues the joker in an abandoned carnival area. The scene ending in a maze of mirrors. The joker escapes, batman finds his lair.

 

[Dvhyzs]

Scarecrow uses some kind of gas on batman, and batman pursues the joker in an abandoned carnival area. The scene ending in a maze of mirrors. The joker escapes, batman finds his lair.

and then....

 

[Octoberist]

it would be great if the movie ended with an amusement park confrontation. But so far, I don't see any real evidence on it, nor have I heard anything about Joker's Candy factory hideout (which could be cool too)