BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - Part 137

[shauner111]

Not everyone have the same definition for bad acting. I thought they were all fine.

Was it entertaining as f**k?! Check.

Mission accomplished.



Agreed.

Entertaining doesn't mean good acting.

 

[queendarkness12]

I wonder what names of famous comic book creators can be used to name the DCCU president.

It came up in my head since the MCU president was referenced after the author of the Extremis storyline.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

My level of being entertained is going to be affected if sub par performances rattle the suspension of disbelief. And sub par performances will always stick out if they are always contrasted against good ones. Gustin is good. Cavvanaugh is good. Martin is good. When each week they are paired with others in the cast it isn't flattering to the people they share the screen with far too often. It's been better casted than ARROW which has weak link after weak link (often forgiven cuz the actor/actress in question is "hot".) but that's not saying much. The excuse of "hey, it's on the CW" is no excuse at all, and it never has been. Not during SMALLLVILLE's era and not now.

 

[Kane52630]

Geeze...I'm glad none of you are casting directors.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Uwe Boll to direct Aquaman.

 

[Fallen Angel]

M.Night Shamalayan should get a gig in the DC universe.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Geeze...I'm glad none of you are casting directors.

Kane, it's not like people/fans that have this opinions are outliers though, right? This isn't someone saying that Peter Dinklage as Tyrion is crap or something. Laurel on ARROW is stunningly bad for such an important role. Patton as Iris is not good and it affects things across the board. If the romantic sub plot of the main protagonist were a small thing on these sorts of shows I would let it slide but it's something shoved in our face each week and makes me less likely to tune in each time I am exposed to it. Look at SHIELD. I was whole hog about that show, and knew there was great potential. But then Skye emerged as the Co-lead and that actress is just bad and some of the rest barring Ming Na and Phil himself, aren't much better. A lot on their best day are... serviceable? Even that would be stretching it for me. So... Yeah, if I were a casting director, you bet your sweet bippy I wouldn't have given those parts to those actors. I don't think that's just me being nit picky.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I have extremely high standards for what is considered acceptable superhero tv/movies and Flash does everything right IMO. I love the **** out of that show. Ezra will be good but I honestly think that the Flash tv show could easily fit into the DCCU quality wise

 

[SuperAl]

its a CW budget, not sure why people expect incredible performances. I find Arrow and the Flash to be very good tv. Its a hell of a lot better than Gotham or AOS.

 

[shauner111]

Geeze...I'm glad none of you are casting directors.

You can be entertained by a bad performance so just because one is entertained, doesn't mean that actor is doing a good job at his/her craft. Vin Diesel is not that good of a actor but he entertains some people because of his deep voice and his look. Doesn't mean he's right for a part that needs more emotion, better delivery, etc.

If im seeing a pure popcorn flick, then i dont need good acting. But i dont think these movies are trying to shove a Transformers or Fast and the Furious at the fans. Some of it might be that, but i think they're also going for something with emotion and gravitas at the same time. So you need good actors/acting for the main roles at least.

 

[Charlatan]

Laurel on ARROW is stunningly bad for such an important role.

Some would say that Amell is a terrible actor too. I would be among them. Half the time he won't even look at who he is talking to in the scene. It's like he's reading his lines off a cue card.

 

[shauner111]

its a CW budget, not sure why people expect incredible performances. I find Arrow and the Flash to be very good tv. Its a hell of a lot better than Gotham or AOS.

As the audience we should always raise the bar in our heads. We should always expect quality and good performances. These are actors who are paid a lot of money to do this and they should make the fans believe in it. It's not really their fault if they're not good but it's the fault of the casting director. They should be going after the best actors possible. It's not even a good excuse to say "what did you expect? it's a soap opera!" even then they shouldn't be doing what they're doing if they're settling for bad actors only cuz they're hot. It becomes an insult to the viewer. Sure, some of the viewers don't mind and some are downright dumb themselves so they don't know the difference. But when you have films and shows out there that are really killing it with the performances, every show should be trying to raise the bar. That's why i dont watch much television. I dont care what genre it is, what the tone is, i want fantastic everything or else it feels like im moving backwards.

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

M.Night Shamalayan should get a gig in the DC universe.

 

[souperman]

Some would say that Amell is a terrible actor too. I would be among them. Half the time he won't even look at who he is talking to in the scene. It's like he's reading his lines off a cue card.

...^^^ Part of that is bad direction too. He is being allowed to look off. If the director didn't okay it, there would be another take...

Brando read off cue cards all the time. Insisted on it...so that's no excuse. Some actors are better than others.

 

[shauner111]

If this was Unbreakable, Signs, Sixth Sense era...i would welcome M Night with open arms. Too bad he hasn't returned to that

 

[Fallen Angel]

I said a gig. He's a part time DJ nowadays.

 

[Charlatan]

I just hope that BvS and JL part1 aren't just set ups for the last JL film like Mockingjay pt 1 was. I hope both have enough meat to the plot to satisfy and not just be an appetizer.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

The truth is that a normal human with a freeze ray should pose no greater risk to Barry than a normal human with a firearm. Less even, if the gunman is highly proficient. Given his speed, most of his opponents shouldn't stand a chance. But there really isn't a solution to this problem, at least not one that won't bankrupt the network. I try to ignore it.

 

[souperman]

M.Night Shamalayan should get a gig in the DC universe.

ShamaLonna Ding Dong...


whos there...?

 

[mithravishnu]

I just hope that BvS and JL part1 aren't just set ups for the last JL film like Mockingjay pt 1 was. I hope both have enough meat to the plot to satisfy and not just be an appetizer.

I hate waiting t:

 

[Kane52630]

I just hope that BvS and JL part1 aren't just set ups for the last JL film like Mockingjay pt 1 was. I hope both have enough meat to the plot to satisfy and not just be an appetizer.

I'm kinda curious as to why they split up JL with a two year gap. Usually when they do split up films, it's a year apart. Seems like it's better if they took out "part 1" and "part 2" and substitute a real subtitle instead.

 

[shauner111]

I'm kinda curious as to why they split up JL with a two year gap. Usually when they do split up films, it's a year apart.

Im convinced they're either filming the bulk of it at the same time, or it's because there's one story (with one villain) to tell: Darkseid.

 

[shauner111]

The truth is that a normal human with a freeze ray should pose no greater risk to Barry than a normal human with a firearm. Less even, if the gunman is highly proficient. Given his speed, most of his opponents shouldn't stand a chance. But there really isn't a solution to this problem, at least not one that won't bankrupt the network. I try to ignore it.

I agree. And that's why i dont really like Flash's rogues gallery or watching him on his own.

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

I said a gig. He's a part time DJ nowadays.

Well that makes me feels a lot better. Haha

 

[roach]

I'm kinda curious as to why they split up JL with a two year gap. Usually when they do split up films, it's a year apart. Seems like it's better if they took out "part 1" and "part 2" and substitute a real subtitle instead.

It's my suspicion that each film will further the storyline along....think of it like the Justice League movie are the main story....like Flashpoint and The Flash, WW and Batman are Flashpoint: Batman or Flashpoint: Wonder Woman.

Looking at the slate there are three films in between JL One and Two...
“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice,” directed by Zack Snyder (2016)
“Suicide Squad,” directed by David Ayer (2016)
“Wonder Woman,” starring Gal Gadot (2017)
“Justice League Part One,” directed by Zack Snyder, with Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill and Amy Adams reprising their roles (2017)
“The Flash,” starring Ezra Miller (2018)
“Aquaman,” starring Jason Momoa (2018)
“Shazam” (2019)
“Justice League Part Two,” directed by Zack Snyder (2019)
“Cyborg,” starring Ray Fisher (2020)
“Green Lantern” (2020)

so those films may deal with character origins but also move along the plot from JL One to JL Two...while Cyborg and GL will deal with their character origins and the aftermath of JL Two...