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[jokesonm3]

Armor isn't really conducive to speed, though. An armored suit just seems weird for the Flash to me.

But it looks cool.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Armor isn't really conducive to speed, though. An armored suit just seems weird for the Flash to me.

I think you can finagle it with lots of believable technobabble. In the comics Flash produces a "friction aura" which protects him from excess heat and small objects and particles he hits going at the high speeds he travels under. Make the costume armored protection from getting cut to ribbons by particulates in the air and there you go.

 

[matt47]

Btw could someone tell me why these two concept arts of Ezra's Flash look different from each other?

I mean apart from the glowing symbol and the fingerless gloves they're completely different, ones completely armoured up injustice style while the other looks light and leathery.

Armoured Suit.

Leathery Suit.

Plus which ones most likely to be the official Ezra suit in the Justice League film?

I don't think the first one is concept art. It doesn't look like Ezra.

 

[titansupes]

True, imo though the Flash suit is no doubt the hardest to get right.

I always thought it would be the easiest to get right, and the least need for any change at all-- find the right material, change the boots to red like the 90's show did. That's all I would have done. It's a sexy, sleek design that suits the character so much, seems somewhat like real life running suits (think Cathy Freeman in the Sydney Olympics) and Snyder/Wilkinson are of course experts at finding the right material to make things seem modern and cool, yet accurate...

I'll be very disappointed if he ends up looking like a more expensive version of the CW version, especially if he doesn't really have those wings/lightning bolts on the cowl.

 

[jokesonm3]

Because the first one isn't concept art.

So they altered the DCUO suit for the hell of it during the DC Film Special?

Nah they wouldn't do it without a reason, i think that they're planning for a more DCUO inspired Flash suit hence them showing the altered edition during the special.

 

[matt47]

I always thought it would be the easiest to get right, and the least need for any change at all-- find the right material, change the boots to red like the 90's show did. That's all I would have done. It's a sexy, sleek design that suits the character so much, seems somewhat like real life running suits (think Cathy Freeman in the Sydney Olympics) and Snyder/Wilkinson are of course experts at finding the right material to make things seem modern and cool, yet accurate...

I'll be very disappointed if he ends up looking like a more expensive version of the CW version, especially if he doesn't really have those wings/lightning bolts on the cowl.

I guess I'm mostly talking about the cowl. The eye part of the mask just doesn't work for me in live action. I know this pretty much because of Caps'.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Isn't this the concept art that people saw at SDCC a few months back?
I know for a fact that the Barry Allen art is.
I remember people saying that they saw actual Flash costume art, but it never leaked from what I know.
Are these the same images that people saw?

That was back in July.
In December he said that he hadn't even started working on the Flash suit yet.
http://batman-news.com/2015/12/06/michael-wilkinson-comic-con-brazil-2015/

Plenty of time for things to change.

 

[Val_Zod]

Btw could someone tell me why these two concept arts of Ezra's Flash look different from each other?

I mean apart from the glowing symbol and the fingerless gloves they're completely different, ones completely armoured up injustice style while the other looks light and leathery.

Armoured Suit.

Leathery Suit.

Plus which ones most likely to be the official Ezra suit in the Justice League film?

The armored one seems like just an edited Flash from DC Universe Online.

 

[Majik1387]

Because it is. It's just simply slightly recolored in parts.

 

[Urich Leeds]

Btw could someone tell me why these two concept arts of Ezra's Flash look different from each other?

I mean apart from the glowing symbol and the fingerless gloves they're completely different, ones completely armoured up injustice style while the other looks light and leathery.

Armoured Suit.

Leathery Suit.

Plus which ones most likely to be the official Ezra suit in the Justice League film?

I don't think either will be the final suit. Same goes for Cyborg.

Those were purely concepts, which is why Flash's was mostly existing Flash art with new elements added.

 

[jokesonm3]

I don't think either will be the final suit. Same goes for Cyborg.

Those were purely concepts, which is why Flash's was mostly existing Flash art with new elements added.

Well if he's gonna have a cameo in BvS and pre production for Justice League is already underway then surely they have a finished costume by now?

Plus we can all agree that the glowing symbol, no ears and fingerless gloves will be in the final version since both concept arts have it.

 

[Rorschach2012]

check out this art i found. it was created before the concept art of Flash's suit was released. It's interesting because the logo is similar, as are the lack of protruding ears

it's also especially interesting because of this report which states that Charlie Hunnam was being used in Flash concept art before Ezra Miller was cast

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/04...sh-and-that-vision-looks-like-charlie-hunnam/

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Well if he's gonna have a cameo in BvS and pre production for Justice League is already underway then surely they have a finished costume by now?

Plus we can all agree that the glowing symbol, no ears and fingerless gloves will be in the final version since both concept arts have it.

What if he's not in his costume in BvS though? Let's keep our powder dry one way or the other. I won't decide on the design one way or the other til I see Miller actually in the real 3 dimensional suit, though for my own druthers, I would like to keep the classic elements of the head wings/bolts and the white around the symbol. Underneath it all, I'm congenitally a classicist when it comes to this stuff, but, if I don't get my way, I'll deal.

 

[jokesonm3]

What if he's not in his costume in BvS though? Let's keep our powder dry one way or the other. I won't decide on the design one way or the other til I see Miller actually in the real 3 dimensional suit, though for my own druthers, I would like to keep the classic elements of the head wings/bolts and the white around the symbol. Underneath it all, I'm congenitally a classicist when it comes to this stuff, but, if I don't get my way, I'll deal.

Him being a red blur cameo would be most likely lol.

 

[Rorschach2012]

the new suit would be fine if he had the earpieces

 

[jokesonm3]

You know as silly as this sounds, what if instead of classic Flash ears, Ezra's suit has bits of lightning bolts coming out of his ears resembling that of his classic ear bolts.

Would folks here be cool with that?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

You know as silly as this sounds, what if instead of classic Flash ears, Ezra's suit has bits of lightning bolts coming out of his ears resembling that of his classic ear bolts.

Would folks here be cool with that?

I would have to see the effect myself to judge.

 

[moviefreak]

Flash's and Superman's powers are unrealistic-- you'll need huge amounts of suspension of disbelief to follow the movie (& comics).

With the kind of physics that MOS Superman & Kryptonian operate in real-life Earth scenario, everyone in their vicinity should be dead. Superman by moving so fast (more like Mach 20 and greater) will ignite the air around him and it will become a white hot plasma (as in ordinary matter like the Sun), anything near him will be burnt to crisp and the air will become "white heat".

The same thing will happened with the Flash, but he'll likely goes airborne and off Earth into space. So the Flash's costume can be anything you could dream up! No use applying real world physics to stuffs that'll be impossible.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

You know as silly as this sounds, what if instead of classic Flash ears, Ezra's suit has bits of lightning bolts coming out of his ears resembling that of his classic ear bolts.

Would folks here be cool with that?

Eh, I'd prefer they just gave him the bolts, getting rid of them is almost like taking away Batman's ears for me, the bolts help to balance out the design and avoid design issues like Captain America's suit in Avenger's, you need something of visual interest in that area or things tend to just look off.

 

[matt47]

Flash's and Superman's powers are unrealistic-- you'll need huge amounts of suspension of disbelief to follow the movie (& comics).

With the kind of physics that MOS Superman & Kryptonian operate in real-life Earth scenario, everyone in their vicinity should be dead. Superman by moving so fast (more like Mach 20 and greater) will ignite the air around him and it will become a white hot plasma (as in ordinary matter like the Sun), anything near him will be burnt to crisp and the air will become "white heat".

The same thing will happened with the Flash, but he'll likely goes airborne and off Earth into space. So the Flash's costume can be anything you could dream up! No use applying real world physics to stuffs that'll be impossible.

In my mind, Superman gets to have whatever he wants because he is alien lol. Supes doesn't go that fast in MoS. He only just breaks the sound barrier doesn't he? So he wouldn't have gone faster than Mach 2. MoS did do a good job of showing what his speed does to the earth, like when he takes off, you even see the side of the building shatter when he is flying down it when he and Zod collide in the fight.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

As it stands right now, I think the Gustin suit, especially season two, is a better design in terms of iconography being translated from page to screen. Again though, I am thinking nothing is locked in, in terms of Miller's suit.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

In my mind, Superman gets to have whatever he wants because he is alien lol. Does Supes every go that fast in MoS though?

Well they show some super speed blitzes by himself and the other Kryptonians throughout the film for sure.

 

[matt47]

Well they show some super speed blitzes by himself and the other Kryptonians throughout the film for sure.

That's true, but I wouldn't say that is anywhere near Mach 20 speed.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

That's true, but I wouldn't say that is anywhere near Mach 20 speed.

Oh, I didn't think they were going that fast at all. Just pointing out there were definitely some times showing Superman and the other Black Zero crew as having superhuman reflexes and reaction times at least.

 

[Gu3ree]

For what reason and WHY did they choose to do it that way? Superman is Diet...Batman is "regular"...pffft...figures.

Why can't they all be on the regular Dr. Peppers? I prefer the regular Dr. Pepper drink.