BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 269

[KRYPTON INC.]

Green Lantern

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For instance, it’s not an accident that Warner Bros. hasn’t said much about Green Lantern besides the fact that they’re planning a 2020 reboot. The character is not referenced in BvS and Silverman acknowledges, he may not turn up onscreen for a while.

“[Green Lantern] is an incredible character. He’s actually multiple incredible characters,” Silverman says. “There’s real opportunity there. We didn’t do a great job on that first Green Lantern movie. This is a character who deserves to be treated in the same way that Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman are being treated now, which is with great reverence. I guess I can say to the Green Lantern fans: if they can be patient with us, I think they’ll be really happy.”

But how patient? Rovens says we may not see Hal Jordan, John Stewart, or any incarnation of Green Lantern until Justice League – Part Two. Maybe. “Every beat of the movie is not yet worked out. So there’s the possibility that he may or may not be in Justice League 2,” the producer says. “For now, we felt that we were introducing enough characters that the best possible place we could put Green Lantern is some introduction in Justice League 2, or barring that, a movie after.”

So... Are the usual suspects going to finally admit the Ambroyer stuff was just the biggest load of horse crap, along with insisting about GL's appearing in JL 1&2 as some sort of given?

What's that? They're gonna probably double down with the most convoluted nonsense? On the Hype? I find that hard to believe.

 

[roach]

Batman and Robin

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Fans should prepare to encounter the other Justice Leaguers only in cameos, as certain characters discover evidence of fellow “metahumans” who could either become powerful allies – or maybe foes. Batman isn’t sure, and his default setting is to perceive everyone stronger than him as an enemy. Snyder and co-writer Chris Terrio (who won an Oscar for Argo) cleverly jiu-jitsu a common complaint about Man of Steel to explain why Batman hates Superman so much: he blames him for the death and the destruction the hero unleashed on Metropolis in his battle with General Zod.

“The idea that there are more, that’s hopeful and also terrifying to him,” says Affleck. “Because then they could make humans even more powerless – or they could serve on our side.” This is a Batman who has been at it for nearly two decades, and he’s both tired and a little hopeless.

The trailer features a Robin uniform, covered with Joker graffiti, which implies the Boy Wonder has been killed in a previous story. He’s starting to wonder if he ever really saved anyone – or just made things worse. “He’s projecting his own sense of failure, his own sense of disillusionment, his own cynicism onto Superman,” Affleck says.

But the Robin suit is another example of groundwork BvS is laying for other movies. “We’ll be exploring that,” says Johns, who has consulted on the full slate. “No one says specifically the name of which Robin that is.”

 

[brucebatman]

does anybody know where in London they are filming justice league? id love to go spy and maybe ask zack for a background role haha

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/0...e?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

Something to end "short-gate", thank Zod!

 

[Serpico Jones]

Those nightmare sequences sound ****ing insane!

 

[Serpico Jones]

does anybody know where in London they are filming justice league? id love to go spy and maybe ask zack for a background role haha

Leavesden Studios.

 

[roach]

Visions

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While trying to establish this new multi-hero reality, Batman v Superman also warps it a little to foreshadow some of the threats – and potential saviors – who could appear further down the line. Snyder says there’s a kind of A Christmas Carol aspect to these visions. Maybe they’re true glimpses of the future – or maybe they’re warnings.

The film is laced with dream sequences for both Batman and Superman that hint at dangers to come – including the possible appearance of DC’s galactic ultra-villain Darkseid. The Flash (played by Miller) appears in one such nightmare of Bruce Wayne’s, delivering a cryptic message to the Dark Knight.

Fans will have to debate whether it was really a dream, or maybe the kinetic hero breaking through time-space to deliver a warning. Synder calls this “a giant Easter egg” that he hopes will spawn plenty of online theories. “We had such a straightforward narrative, on one hand, I wanted this other layer of the movie to be complicated and bizarre,” he says.

 

[Guts]

Spoiler

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Another trick of assembling these films is to make sure casual moviegoers are kept oriented about the timeline. So on that secret board in Snyder’s office, it’s clear: Suicide Squad takes place after the events in BvS. And the Wonder Woman movie, while largely set in 1918 during World War I, will be framed by “present day” bookends that also take place after BvS. Meanwhile, BvS includes teases about what that upcoming movie will reveal about Wonder Woman’s past.

The timeline on that board goes backward and forward.

SS and WW time frame

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Another trick of assembling these films is to make sure casual moviegoers are kept oriented about the timeline. So on that secret board in Snyder’s office, it’s clear: Suicide Squad takes place after the events in BvS. And the Wonder Woman movie, while largely set in 1918 during World War I, will be framed by “present day” bookends that also take place after BvS. Meanwhile, BvS includes teases about what that upcoming movie will reveal about Wonder Woman’s past.

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f BvS sounds crowded, it actually got smaller as time went on. The PG-13 movie’s 2 hour 31 minute runtime will expand further with an R-rated “Ultimate Edition” on home video, featuring even more brutal fight scenes as well as additional hints at future films. There’ll also be some new characters, including a secret one played by Jena Malone, who was cut from the theatrical release. (More on the extended cut of BvS tomorrow at EW.com.)

If BvS sounds crowded, it actually got smaller as time went on. The PG-13 movie’s 2 hour 31 minute runtime will expand further with an R-rated “Ultimate Edition” on home video, featuring even more brutal fight scenes as well as additional hints at future films. There’ll also be some new characters, including a secret one played by Jena Malone, who was cut from the theatrical release. (More on the extended cut of BvS tomorrow at EW.com.)

roach and Jumpman are the same poster and they're double posting.

 

[roach]

roach and Jumpman are the same poster and they're double posting.

lol

 

[Rorschach2012]

We're getting GL eventually which is good

 

[roach]

Superman

Spoiler

That brings us to a figure who looms largest over all of this, one who’s never had to share his time onscreen with so many powerful rivals. Superman may be the strongest of all, but following on the story set forth in Man of Steel, this series of DC movies is trying to reveal the flaws that go far beyond Kryptonite.

This Superman is still a newbie, still trying to figure out what to do with his strengths. Still trying to avoid making mistakes. “His weakness is that he doesn’t want to hurt anyone. He doesn’t want to scare anyone, and in that you can take advantage of him,” Cavill says. “This is someone who is a complete amateur, and he’s facing up against someone who is very well versed in the arts of war.”

One thing’s for sure – Superman won’t feel so alone anymore.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Batman and Robin

Spoiler

Fans should prepare to encounter the other Justice Leaguers only in cameos, as certain characters discover evidence of fellow “metahumans” who could either become powerful allies – or maybe foes. Batman isn’t sure, and his default setting is to perceive everyone stronger than him as an enemy. Snyder and co-writer Chris Terrio (who won an Oscar for Argo) cleverly jiu-jitsu a common complaint about Man of Steel to explain why Batman hates Superman so much: he blames him for the death and the destruction the hero unleashed on Metropolis in his battle with General Zod.

“The idea that there are more, that’s hopeful and also terrifying to him,” says Affleck. “Because then they could make humans even more powerless – or they could serve on our side.” This is a Batman who has been at it for nearly two decades, and he’s both tired and a little hopeless.

The trailer features a Robin uniform, covered with Joker graffiti, which implies the Boy Wonder has been killed in a previous story. He’s starting to wonder if he ever really saved anyone – or just made things worse. “He’s projecting his own sense of failure, his own sense of disillusionment, his own cynicism onto Superman,” Affleck says.

But the Robin suit is another example of groundwork BvS is laying for other movies. “We’ll be exploring that,” says Johns, who has consulted on the full slate. “No one says specifically the name of which Robin that is.”

Interesting about the lack of a specific name. Given this article I think it's safe to say lots of planning and brainstorming happened in the time between end of production and the start of the film's premiere "delay". Lots of plates to be kept spinning it seems.

 

[DerekLake]

We're getting GL eventually which is good

I'm glad they're taking their time. That's such an expansive aspect of the DC EU that could be really epic if done right. And if on the off chance they don't do Darkseid in JL1 or JL2 (it's far from a certainty), GLC would be a good place to introduce the existence of the New Gods.

 

[John Locke]

Visions

Spoiler

While trying to establish this new multi-hero reality, Batman v Superman also warps it a little to foreshadow some of the threats – and potential saviors – who could appear further down the line. Snyder says there’s a kind of A Christmas Carol aspect to these visions. Maybe they’re true glimpses of the future – or maybe they’re warnings.

The film is laced with dream sequences for both Batman and Superman that hint at dangers to come – including the possible appearance of DC’s galactic ultra-villain Darkseid. The Flash (played by Miller) appears in one such nightmare of Bruce Wayne’s, delivering a cryptic message to the Dark Knight.

Fans will have to debate whether it was really a dream, or maybe the kinetic hero breaking through time-space to deliver a warning. Synder calls this “a giant Easter egg” that he hopes will spawn plenty of online theories. “We had such a straightforward narrative, on one hand, I wanted this other layer of the movie to be complicated and bizarre,” he says.

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I'm glad it's confirmed Superman is getting the visions as well. I had been beginning to suspect he will get one as well. And that Flash is in it.

 

[RF20Lennon]

That article was amazing. They have put so much thought and care into this. Man I hope it pays off!

 

[steve4991]

I'm off tomorrow so consider me the Jokesonm3 of the forum tomorrow as we get more EW news.....

Just kidding. I'll probably get up for some water or something at one point.

 

[jokesonm3]

We're getting GL eventually which is good

Yeah but most likely not in the Justice League at all which sucks.

 

[Jumpman]

Interesting about the lack of a specific name. Given this article I think it's safe to say lots of planning and brainstorming happened in the time between end of production and the start of the film's premiere "delay". Lots of plates to be kept spinning it seems.

Agreed. They've been hashing this thing out for a while, it seems.

 

[roach]

Agreed. They've been hashing this thing out for a while, it seems.


sorry I had to....lmao

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

We're getting GL eventually which is good

We all knew that though going back to the initial slate announcement. Some of us however "knew" Ambroyer was full of bovine excrement as well as there being no "necessary" inclusion of GL in either part of JL, especially given the lack of GLs in the concept art, no matter how one personally would have wanted to spin Johns' words in the CW special.

 

[Orb]

Damn they pretty much just spoiled the Flash cameo lol.

 

[John Locke]

Agreed. They've been hashing this thing out for a while, it seems.

Agreed. They've been hashing this thing out for a while, it seems.


sorry I had to....lmao

 

[brucebatman]

Leavesden Studios.

thanks dude

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Agreed. They've been hashing this thing out for a while, it seems.


sorry I had to....lmao

I am getting "Drift jealous" man...

 

[Polux]

So, on the whole "Robin's shorts" thing....

Well, maybe it's just me, but if you look at the shorts, the perspective is all wrong when compared to the angle of the rest of the suit, making the right leg of the short longer than the left one...maybe I'm just seeing things that are not there, but it looks like me like the legs there were cut or something; maybe some in-story reasoning as Robin actually using trousers and having his legs cut/burnt/whatever leaving the suit's legs damaged, while visually retaining the iconic image of Robin's suit "shorts"...

Or maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see...(certainly wouldn't be the first fan to do so... )

Polux